BigBruv Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/seasonal-influenza-and-covid-19-vaccine-uptake-in-frontline-healthcare-workers-monthly-data-2023-to-2024 100% of NHS Frontline workers are offered covid vaccines. Nationally 31.3% accepted the covid vaccines 100% - 31.3% = 68.7% of refused the covid vaccines Therefore, just under 70% of NHS Frontline workers (68.7%) are now refusing jabs. Seems odd no? Does anyone have any suggestions as to why ALMOST 70% of NHS Frontline workers are choosing to refuse the 'safe & effectives'? Do frontline UK NHS healthcare workers know something we don't??? Edited May 17 by stats trolling references removed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 That number/share is just the number of UK HCWs who chose to get (or not get) a COVID vaccine in the government's semi-annual (twice a year) COVID vaccination campaign last fall. It doesn't tell how many of those folks got vaccinated months before in the spring, or how many will get vaccinated in the coming weeks for the spring 2024 UK COVID vaccination campaign. It also doesn't tell WHY those who didn't get vaccinated chose not to... Perhaps because a lot of staff HCWs tend to be among younger age groups, and the UK government increasingly has only been targeting the elderly for government provided COVID vaccines. One thing I do know -- prior news reporting has indicated that somewhere around 90% of the UK's government health care workers have been COVID vaccinated with either their first and/or second vaccine doses. Per the BBC from 2021: Covid-19: Vaccinated NHS staff numbers vary across England "In England, NHS data suggests 93% of eligible frontline staff have been vaccinated - equivalent to one million doses." https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56291564 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conno Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, BigBruv said: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/seasonal-influenza-and-covid-19-vaccine-uptake-in-frontline-healthcare-workers-monthly-data-2023-to-2024 100% of NHS Frontline workers are offered covid vaccines. Nationally 31.3% accepted the covid vaccines 100% - 31.3% = 68.7% of refused the covid vaccines Therefore, just under 70% of NHS Frontline workers (68.7%) are now refusing jabs. Seems odd no? Does anyone have any suggestions as to why ALMOST 70% of NHS Frontline workers are choosing to refuse the 'safe & effectives'? Do frontline UK NHS healthcare workers know something we don't??? There you go BigBruv, was on the telly so still safe and effective. /S Edited May 17 by Conno 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigBruv Posted May 17 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 17 (edited) 17 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: It also doesn't tell WHY those who didn't get vaccinated chose not to... Like it or not, almost 70% of Frontline NHS workers are now REFUSING covid jabs. Frontline workers are all offered jabs. Maybe they know something that you don't. : ) Also pasting big *3 YEAR OLD CHARTS* with BIG TEXT is very misleading / disingenuous. Edited May 17 by stats oversized font normalized 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 You also have to wonder at some of the COVID policy decisions being made in the UK these days.... For example, nursing home occupants are a priority target for receiving government provided COVID vaccines. But the staff who work in those nursing home are specifically excluded from the government COVID vaccines program, even though they spend their workdays around COVID vulnerable people... What about residents, and staff in care homes? "Those who are a resident in care homes for older adults are also eligible. Carers and staff in care homes are not eligible, this is because the spring vaccine is targeted towards providing protection to those most vulnerable to severe disease." https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2024/04/16/whos-eligible-for-the-2024-covid-19-vaccine-or-spring-booster/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigBruv Posted May 17 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 17 3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: For example, nursing home occupants are a priority target for receiving government provided COVID vaccines. But the staff who work in those nursing home are specifically excluded from the government COVID vaccines program, even though they spend their workdays around COVID vulnerable people... If the jabs are effective, the residents needn't worry if others are jabbed or not. 3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Those who are a resident in care homes for older adults are also eligible. Carers and staff in care homes are not eligible, Makes perfect sense *IF* the jabs are effective, the residents needn't worry if others are jabbed or not. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) The reason why, IMHO, it would be best if BOTH groups were vaccinated is because.... Nothing is 100% effective. No vaccine has ever been 100% effective. The COVID and flu vaccines are not, and never have been 100% effective. But both substantially reduce your risk of getting seriously sick from and dying from those two respective viruses. That's the reason people get vaccinated. COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness February 1, 2024 What to know People who received the updated COVID-19 vaccine were 54% less likely to get COVID-19 during the four-month period from mid-September 2023 to January 2024. ... New CDC data show that the updated COVID-19 vaccines were effective against COVID-19 during September 2023 – January 2024, including against the different circulating virus variants such as JN.1 and XBB. Getting vaccinated now can help lower the risk of becoming infected with or dying from COVID-19. CDC recommends everyone 6 months or older receive the updated 2023-2024 COVID-19 vaccine. ... CDC recommends everyone 6 months or older get an updated COVID-19 vaccine. Vaccination remains the best protection against COVID-19-related hospitalization and death. Vaccination also reduces your chance of suffering the effects of Long COVID, which can develop during or following acute infection and last for an extended duration. https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness.html Edited May 17 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBruv Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 (edited) 11 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The COVID and flu vaccines are not, and never have been 100% effective. Well that's a surprise! We were told different - It's almost as if people are making it up as they go along How effective would YOU say covid vaccines are right now???? Definitely NOT what everyone was saying when that big chart you pasted came out (3 YEARS AGO) Edited May 17 by stats no weblink video removed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howlee101 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BigBruv said: Well that's a surprise! We were told different - It's almost as if people are making it up as they go along Definitely NOT what everyone was saying when that big chart you pasted came out (3 YEARS AGO) Careful about giving your opinions that doesn't fit their "narrative"... Edited May 17 by stats comment on moderation removed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBruv Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 11 minutes ago, howlee101 said: Careful about giving your opinions that doesn't fit their "narrative"... Thanks but the tide has turned.. Truth always makes itself evident with time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBruv Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 Botton line is 100% of NHS Frontline staff were offered that covid vaccine and almost 70% turned it down / refused it. spin it how you like but it is what it is. Maybe they know something you don't 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) Hopefully they know this -- COVID is ongoing in the UK: https://ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/ PS - (the vaccine uptake rate cited above is for the fall 2023 UK vaccine campaign that had a main target population of those age 65 and above) https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-advises-on-eligible-groups-for-2023-autumn-booster Edited May 17 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I'm no specialist (I'm a Scientist). But AFAIK, NO vaccine is 100% effective. 'Effective' would mean not getting sick when exposed to the virus/bacteria that causes the disease. I do know that flu vaccines seem to have a rather low efficacy. A full vaccination program (2 or 3 jabs) can give almost 100% protection against Polio. I had 2 AZ shots and follow-up Moderna and Pfizer boosters some time later. I'm very happy that I had these vaccinations, (and as an adult, I am very happy that my parents were sensible enough to get me shots against various childhood illnesses - although as an older person, mumps, measles, whooping cough etc vaccines were not available at the time and I had these childhood illnesses!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stats Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Several posts with off-topic and unsourced and unsubstantiated claims, including a non-news source link, have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, simon43 said: I'm no specialist (I'm a Scientist). But AFAIK, NO vaccine is 100% effective. 'Effective' would mean not getting sick when exposed to the virus/bacteria that causes the disease. I do know that flu vaccines seem to have a rather low efficacy. A full vaccination program (2 or 3 jabs) can give almost 100% protection against Polio. I had 2 AZ shots and follow-up Moderna and Pfizer boosters some time later. I'm very happy that I had these vaccinations, (and as an adult, I am very happy that my parents were sensible enough to get me shots against various childhood illnesses - although as an older person, mumps, measles, whooping cough etc vaccines were not available at the time and I had these childhood illnesses!). I, on the other hand, would give almost anything to go back and undo my 2nd Pfizer. Because the next day, my quality of life took a huge dump and hasn't recovered in the years following. Left side of my face has been numb, my sense of balance went away and fatigue has been constant. When I first went to the ER, they claimed they didn't know what caused it, but it definitely wasn't the jab. 2 years later when I went to the ER again, they conceded it was probably the jab. But tough noogies... Of course, that's just my story. I'm probably the only person in the world that has happened to. Edited May 18 by impulse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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