Bday Prang Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 hours ago, steven100 said: you miss the point .... It's the use of this that leads to social issues and problems. How to mess up a country more than it is already ... The point is ,alcoholics really should not be commenting, There have been no significant problems or social issues, unless you are talking about alcohol of course, which is responsible for violence, traffic accidents every single day , and many long term health issues, and waking up next to ugly women to name just four of the" positives" It is indeed the best way to mess up a country. Just imagine life without it , oh sorry , you can't, at least not without breaking into a cold sweat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bday Prang said: The point is ,alcoholics really should not be commenting, There have been no significant problems or social issues, unless you are talking about alcohol of course, which is responsible for violence, traffic accidents every single day , and many long term health issues, and waking up next to ugly women to name just four of the" positives" It is indeed the best way to mess up a country. Just imagine life without it , oh sorry , you can't, at least not without breaking into a cold sweat The point is you started off on the wrong foot. Ignore for you ... go and smoke your weed. Edited May 20 by steven100 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted May 20 Popular Post Share Posted May 20 I seriously doubt that, it sounds like a totally fake poll to me. I think the majority of Thais realize that there is little to be gained by criminalizing it again, and the reality is that alcohol and tobacco are far more deadly. Srettha and the Thai army are ensuring the backwards movement of the nation. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 6 hours ago, newbee2022 said: It shows that Thais in this question have more brain than stupid farangs! QED. Congrats to all Thai people ❤️❤️❤️ It seems you're right about stupid farangs. It isn't all Thai people is it and this is just one survey. So yes, some farangs are stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouatchee Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 7 hours ago, newbee2022 said: It shows that Thais in this question have more brain than stupid farangs! QED. Congrats to all Thai people ❤️❤️❤️ \another quote of the whole article followed by a gibberish post? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouatchee Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 7 hours ago, steven100 said: you miss the point .... It's the use of this that leads to social issues and problems. How to mess up a country more than it is already ... you miss the point, its the use of alcohol, meth, tobacco that lead to social issues and problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Nobody ever cares what the people want 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Prang Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 7 hours ago, steven100 said: The point is you started off on the wrong foot. Ignore for you ... go and smoke your weed. see, he's drunk already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 15 minutes ago, Bday Prang said: see, he's drunk already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot01 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 17 hours ago, Pesche said: A poll survey of 1,310 individuals aged 15 and over from various backgrounds does not represent "the majority of Thais"! So much discussions about a recognised "recreational drug" - so little discussions about Ya Bah, Ice etc. So if the poll went the other way it would be acceptable? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 20 hours ago, Srikcir said: First. What is the geographic distribution. If all provinces were fairly considered, 1,320 polled if distributed equally amounts to about 17 persons that would become smaller if then broken down by age groups within a province. For criminalization that affects millions of Thais, the NIDA polling base appears ridiculous. Second. Every statistical sampling (note no mention that such was used in this case) has a standard error. The standard error of the coefficient is used to measure the precision of the estimate of the coefficient. The smaller the standard error, the more precise the estimate. I have never seen a NIDA survey mention the degree of error in its polling results. Thus, it's cited results are not a scientific poll and might reflect a high degree of error. All that BS you just posted doesn't matter... the results will all be the same withing a couple of percentage points... that's been proven over and over again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) I question the wisdom of making legislative policy based on opinion polling but there is nothing wrong with looking at it. Ideally leaders lead their public with more enlightened policy. But nobody is saying Thailand or anywhere is an ideal world. The polling if true indicates that Thai public opinion is rather backwards compared to many nations on cannabis policy. So I suppose it means when they go ahead with whatever going backwards change that's going to happen such as reclassifying cannabis as a narcotic, they will have political cover. Edited May 20 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 16 hours ago, Bday Prang said: You appear to be one of the last reefer madness prohibitionists still trolling on nearly every cannabis thread, all the others have either seen sense or given up. Pity you can't do the same What sense is that....... is there some advantage to having a subset of people impacted by this drug driving around or doing whatever it puts them in mind to do? Alcohol is bad enough in that respect, but do we need to add to the issues? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MangoKorat Posted May 20 Popular Post Share Posted May 20 On 5/19/2024 at 11:53 PM, Skipalongcassidy said: You really do not understand the way that polls work do you? 1310 individuals or 131000 or 1310000 will aLl give you the same percent +or - Utter tosh. What sort of school did you go to - approved? Variations in views can differ greatly due to many factors. 1310 people out of a polulation of over 70 million is unlikely to produce a representative sample. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Prang Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, jacko45k said: What sense is that....... is there some advantage to having a subset of people impacted by this drug driving around or doing whatever it puts them in mind to do? Alcohol is bad enough in that respect, but do we need to add to the issues? Well if the last couple of years was to be looked at as an experiment or a trial run,at least socially there appears to have been no issues at all, despite the best efforts of the nay sayers and the ever eager media. If it had not been for 100 years of" reefer madness " and all the negative propaganda which has shaped people's attitudes, discussions like this would not happen. Prior to the legalisation, I personally cannot remember a single incident hitting the headlines where cannabis was mentioned as a contributory factor either, yet there were plenty of people using it even then. Now with the number of users having vastly increased , by up to ten times according to some estimates, there is still , contrary to all the doom and gloom predictions by some people , a distinct lack of evidence or reports of any negative consequences in the news despite the best efforts of the media, In fact the only issue mentioned on here by the anti cannabis brigade is that they "don't like the smell" hardly a valid reason to subject people to what can be severe punishments just for possessing a plant "Whatever it puts them in mind to do" "Alcohol is bad enough" you are suggesting that cannabis is worse in that respect than alcohol, and that is clearly not the case. any assertion that it is, is purely the result of years and years of negative propaganda clouding ones judgement, and not based on any reported instances 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Prang Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 It seems somewhat perverse that what one can do today, without consequence, regarding cannabis use, may shortly have the potential to land one in prison.along with all the other problems one may face with a "drugs" conviction on ones record , despite harming nobody, All due to the personal whims of a politician/ convicted criminal By all means target under age users and those who supply them , as the regulations allow for, just like alcohol. but where is the logic in hunting down and prosecuting everybody else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Maybe this was all just a ruse to find illegal home grow operations which Thais now have photographic evidence on socials people showing their mature plants the day after legalization 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg71 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 The vendors and those behind growing said there would be mass protests over the matter . This is all they could muster up today which is rather pitiful to be honest . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 21 hours ago, Bday Prang said: "Whatever it puts them in mind to do" "Alcohol is bad enough" you are suggesting that cannabis is worse in that respect than alcohol, and that is clearly not the case. any assertion that it is, is purely the result of years and years of negative propaganda clouding ones judgement, and not based on any reported instances Don't believe I said that.... but I could have phrased it more strongly for those with a set perspective of being defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteman Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 No way will this happen the people will not let it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 On 5/20/2024 at 5:53 AM, Skipalongcassidy said: You really do not understand the way that polls work do you? 1310 individuals or 131000 or 1310000 will aLl give you the same percent +or - Nope. Pick too small a sample size and the results will not necessarily reflect reality. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Who cares what any poll thinks? Just don’t do it if you don’t want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Prang Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 8 hours ago, jacko45k said: Don't believe I said that.... but I could have phrased it more strongly for those with a set perspective of being defensive. What do you mean "you don't believe you said that" are you suggesting I made it up ? Or had you just forgotten? maybe you are smoking too much cannabis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 17 hours ago, pedro01 said: Nope. Pick too small a sample size and the results will not necessarily reflect reality. Try again... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 15 hours ago, Bday Prang said: What do you mean "you don't believe you said that" are you suggesting I made it up ? Or had you just forgotten? maybe you are smoking too much cannabis Unlikely.... I am all grown up now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Prang Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Try again... nah you should try again or better still admit that you are wrong and give up 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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