CharlieH Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Twelve people have been injured due to turbulence on a flight from Doha to Dublin. The Boeing 787-9 dreamliner experienced turbulence while airborne over Turkey, the operator of Dublin Airport, the DAA, said. Upon landing shortly before 13:00 local time, Qatar Airways flight QR107 was met by emergency services including airport police and fire officers. Six passengers and six crew members have reported injuries. "The Dublin Airport team continues to provide full assistance on the ground to passengers and airline staff," a DAA spokesperson added. as reported by BBC 2024-95-27 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chelseafan Posted May 26 Popular Post Share Posted May 26 I blame global warming 😛 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) This occurred during meal service. As 8 people required hospital treatment on landing, it can only be assumed that the injuries were minor, cut, bruises and at worse maybe a broken arm, as the plane did not divert. From the Aviation Herald; “A Qatar Airways Boeing 787-9, registration A7-BHM performing flight QR-18 from Doha (Qatar) to Dublin (Ireland), was enroute at FL360 over Turkey about 2 hours into the flight when the aircraft encountered severe turbulence causing injuries to 6 passengers and 6 crew. The aircraft continued to Dublin for a safe landing about 5 hours later. 12 people were treated at the airport, 8 of them were taken to hospitals. The airport reported 6 passengers and 6 crew needed to be treated at the airport and 8 of the injured were taken to hospitals after the aircraft had encountered turbulence over Turkey. Passengers reported food service was just in progress when the turbulence hit. Flight attendants were thrown against the ceiling, food went everywhere. Some flight attendants had scratches in their faces, one lady had her arm in a sling. The aircraft remained on the ground for about 3 hours, then departed for the return flight.” https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/there-was-panic-everywhere-eight-people-hospitalised-among-12-injured-during-turbulence-on-flight-from-qatar-to-dublin/a681371964.html Edited May 26 by Georgealbert 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Lister Posted May 26 Popular Post Share Posted May 26 There are two locations on the typical Bangkok/London route that are nearly always turbulent, The Andaman coast and the Balkans, it's been the same way for over 20 years so not that difficult to anticipate. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Georgealbert Posted May 26 Popular Post Share Posted May 26 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Mike Lister said: There are two locations on the typical Bangkok/London route that are nearly always turbulent, The Andaman coast and the Balkans, it's been the same way for over 20 years so not that difficult to anticipate. Yes those are 2 areas where that is a greater possibility of storm clouds developing, but if it was that simple, flights path would not use them, as turbulence is very changeable, depending on weather, wind, flight altitude, time of year and day, flights paths can also be changed due to ground situations, such a war zone, jamming of GPS navigation systems. Planes also follow flight corridors that are designated pathways in the sky that aircraft follow to ensure safe and efficient travel between destinations. This incident and the Singapore Airlines incident seem to be clear air turbulence, not detected by the pilots, as aircraft use onboard radar that tracks the movements of rain drops in the distance to reveal the turbulent motion of air. Typically, the larger the raindrops detected, the bigger the cloud and storm, and the more turbulent it likely have inside those clouds, so pilots can try to avoid/fly around and also warn passengers to belt up. Here is the link to the current world turbulence map, https://turbli.com/maps/world-turbulence-map/ Anyone worried of flying, can use this link to see how smooth their flight will be. https://turbli.com/ Edited May 26 by Georgealbert 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey and the Bandit Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Turbulence when flying can occur anywhere. If its weather related. like T-storms the pilot can see them with weather radar and steer around them. If its CAT they cannot be seen or detected, but aircraft flying the same route can issue an advisory and warn other aircraft. Normally turbulence, like flying thu clouds, is not that bad, just bumpy, but as we have seen turbulence, though rare, can be dangerous, always keep your seat belt fastened, even loosely, when seated! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Turbulence, or a defect? From 2 months ago: Boeing is telling airlines to inspect switches on pilots’ seats in its 787 Dreamliner jets after a published report said an accidental cockpit seat movement likely caused the sudden plunge of a LATAM Airlines plane flying to New Zealand. Passengers reported that when the Dreamliner dropped without warning, people not wearing seatbelts were tossed from their seats and into the cabin ceiling and aisles. The plane later landed at Auckland Airport as scheduled. About 50 people were injured, according to emergency crews in Auckland. https://apnews.com/article/boeing-warning-cockpit-seats-787-dreamliner-07c59619ab48c9cbea2a4df091fd6d21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 In this part of the world this next 3 months is very bad for turbulence with the warm air rising off the land mass & meeting the cold air. Even flying Bangkok to Singapore twice a month as I used to do have experienced some horrific CAT even on this short run. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Georgealbert Posted May 27 Popular Post Share Posted May 27 21 minutes ago, impulse said: Turbulence, or a defect? From 2 months ago: Boeing is telling airlines to inspect switches on pilots’ seats in its 787 Dreamliner jets after a published report said an accidental cockpit seat movement likely caused the sudden plunge of a LATAM Airlines plane flying to New Zealand. Passengers reported that when the Dreamliner dropped without warning, people not wearing seatbelts were tossed from their seats and into the cabin ceiling and aisles. The plane later landed at Auckland Airport as scheduled. About 50 people were injured, according to emergency crews in Auckland. https://apnews.com/article/boeing-warning-cockpit-seats-787-dreamliner-07c59619ab48c9cbea2a4df091fd6d21 Where is everything a conspiracy to some people? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Is this going to be another 'escalator' scenario... Whereby there is a huge incident which gains a lot of attention, then any similar incident reaches media headlines as its now 'flavour of the month'... ... Would this second incident even reach the news had the Singapore Airlines incident not occurred. Turbulence happens all the time and injuries are a lot more common than we think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 32 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Is this going to be another 'escalator' scenario... Whereby there is a huge incident which gains a lot of attention, then any similar incident reaches media headlines as its now 'flavour of the month'... ... Would this second incident even reach the news had the Singapore Airlines incident not occurred. Turbulence happens all the time and injuries are a lot more common than we think. Yes agree, but it does makes current clickbate headlines. Data also shows that between 2011 and 2024, there 248 turbulent reported incidents (an reported incident is when there is at least one serious injury involving commercial passenger or cargo flights) were reported on aircraft across the world. The Singapore Airlines incident was the first death in that timeframe. Without a serious injury the event is not a reported incident, and those occur regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Seems that IATA (The International Air Transport Association) have developed a new data exchange platform called ‘Turbulence Aware’ which is designed to provide airlines with better information for flights. Qatar Airways are already part of this program. “A global, industry-wide, data exchange platform, Turbulence Aware receives the existing airline data from ground servers, performs quality control, deidentifies data, and provides the data back to airlines via a ground-to-ground system-to-system connection. Turbulence Aware viewer via wifi – Mapped real-time turbulence reports inform your operational decision-making Integration with in-house or third-party flight planning or in-flight weather tools – To speed up decision-making EDR-based – Energy/eddy-dissipation rate (EDR) is a calculated estimate of the atmosphere’s turbulent state. It is NOT a measure of the response of an individual aircraft. It is the official ICAO & WMO metric for measuring turbulence intensity Detailed report available for each data point – Including time, altitude, aircraft position, mean and peak EDR values as well as wind and temperature data, to increase situational awareness.” https://www.iata.org/en/services/statistics/safety-data/turbulence-platform/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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