Trump to Virtually Attend Pre-Sentencing Interview for Hush-Money Conviction

[Hanaguma]

45 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

where am i ever pro trump ? post my comments ? my questioning things  does not mean i support trump or am pro trump. get a grip. 

 

stop assuming and putting falsehoods out there. you are simply trolling now and it's pathetic. 

 

also are you ok...you have said convicted felon in every single comment ? do you have octd ? obsessive compulsive trump disorder.

You will get used to it. Smooth brained leftists cannot conceive of anyone having a nuanced position.  Either you are 100% on board with them, or you are a Cult of the Orange Man member.  No middle ground.  And that attitude is precisely what will get the Bad Orange Man re-elected in November. 

[Hanaguma]

2 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

How does 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, with intent to "aid or conceal" another crime when falsifying said records, which in this case was to conceal the payments from the public and therefore influnce the 2016 election, which in turn is a violation of New York election law? 

 

Is that sexy enough for you?

 

P.S. Paying a 'whore' as you so eloquently put it IS illegal in New York. Paying a porn star isn't.

Trump didn't pay the whore for sex. He paid her to shut up and stop talking about it. Not illegal.

 

If you can't distill that word salad of a criminal charge down into something more easily understood, it will never catch on. That is precisely WHY "hush money conviction" is used, however inaccurate it may be.  You could always say, "convicted business record falsifier".... 

[jerrymahoney]

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I'm sure you are.

 

Jailing political opponents who happen to be the leading presidential candidate will surely restore faith in American Democracy. 😆

Maybe he will just get probation and community service to which he can ask:

 

Does serving as President count?

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Something a lot of the anti-Trump crowd don't realize is that a lot of Trump voters actually don't like him that much. There is no cult. But they look at two things- the state of America when Trump was president, and the state of America under Biden. And they prefer the former.  It is pragmatics, not personality.

Absolutely wrong.

 

If it was 'pragmatic' and not 'personality' there is nothing that was better under Trumps term of office, other than if you happened to be a billionaire or a large corporation (are you either of these things?). By any metric imagineable, the last 4 years under Biden have been soooooooo much better than Trump both domestically and on the world stage.

 

This is why the MAGA brigade are called 'cultist' as literally facts and figures don't seem to sway them at all.

[Bangkok Barry]

6 hours ago, Social Media said:

Despite facing a potential sentence of up to four years in prison, most legal experts predict that Trump will receive probation, considering his lack of previous criminal records and other mitigating factors such as his age.

 

Or he might receive a token prison sentence for repeatedly showing contempt of court, calling the judge who will sentence him corrupt, calling the trial a witch hunt, showing no remorse or acceptance of guilt at all, and contempt for the American justice system. A week might do it, so he misses his big day. Then we can marvel at a Party who accepts someone in jail as their candidate.

[Bangkok Barry]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Trump didn't pay the whore for sex. He paid her to shut up and stop talking about it. Not illegal.

 

If you can't distill that word salad of a criminal charge down into something more easily understood, it will never catch on. That is precisely WHY "hush money conviction" is used, however inaccurate it may be.  You could always say, "convicted business record falsifier".... 

 

It had nothing to do with hush money being paid. It had everything to do with falsifying accounts to hide the fact it had been paid. He wasn't convicted of paying hush money.

[stoner]

5 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Maybe he will just get probation and community service to which he can ask:

 

Does serving as President count?

 

I said before the conviction as a joke he could get sentenced to 4 years in the white house. 

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

 

Yes and I have posted that because on several occasions you have suggested that -- based upon my analysis of Trump's legal positions especially on this criminal case that is also supported by multiple left leaning legal scholars -- I am not sufficiently anti-Trump to be genuinely anti-Trump.

 

But asking you who you have voted for is almost like asking most girls if you can look up their dress.

Let me explain my position on the matter of sharing personal information on this forum, it might assuage your curiosity.

 

I have observed on numerous occasions that at and all personal information shared on this forum becomes, for an antagonistic minority, ammunition to be used by them in ad hominem attacks against those who’s views they disagree with.

 

For this reason I don’t post personal information, nor do I post information that might confirm any personal information I do not wish to share.

 

So, by example, when you who I vote for, my answer is to provide no answer that will indicate one piece of information I have never shared, my nationality.

 

So don’t take it personally (pun intended), I certainly do not accuse you of being one of the members who engage in personal attacks, but I trust you will understand and accept why I keep personal information off this forum.

Incidentally, I advise others never to post personal information or introduce anyone they care about into discussion on this forum, sadly too many learn the hard way why that’s good advice.

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

A week might do it, so he misses his big day. Then we can marvel at a Party who accepts someone in jail as their candidate.

 

Don't forget to label his supporters Deplorable.

 

That will definitely get it over the line 😃.

 

Some people never learn...

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, stoner said:

 

I said before the conviction as a joke he could get sentenced to 4 years in the white house. 

The conviction is a matter of court record.

 

It’s not a joke and the WH is the last place any Convicted Felon should be.

[spidermike007]

Prison would be a beautiful result for a man who should already have 35 convictions, for his lifetime of crime. 

 

Granted, it would likely never happen. But, one can dream. 

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

For this reason I don’t post personal information, nor do I post information that might confirm any personal information I do not wish to share.

 

Except that time you posted about competing in female over 60's bike races.

[stoner]

10 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You will get used to it. Smooth brained leftists cannot conceive of anyone having a nuanced position.  Either you are 100% on board with them, or you are a Cult of the Orange Man member.  No middle ground.  And that attitude is precisely what will get the Bad Orange Man re-elected in November. 

 

It would be like me saying president of a dope fiend son every time we talk about Joe as president. 

 

 

[johnnybangkok]

7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Trump didn't pay the whore for sex. He paid her to shut up and stop talking about it. Not illegal.

 

If you can't distill that word salad of a criminal charge down into something more easily understood, it will never catch on. That is precisely WHY "hush money conviction" is used, however inaccurate it may be.  You could always say, "convicted business record falsifier".... 

My point (which you seem to conveniently ignore) is you are calling her a "whore' and paying a whore in NY is illegal. Paying off a porn start to keep quiet about having sex with her (hush money) isn't.

 

And I prefer 'convicted fraudster' as it also nicely covers his attempt to dupe banks and others with financial statements by inflating the value of his properties (and ordered to pay $300M +) or when he was forced to admit fraud and close down his own charity.

[stoner]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let me explain my position on the matter of sharing personal information on this forum, it might assuage your curiosity.

 

I have observed on numerous occasions that at and all personal information shared on this forum becomes, for an antagonistic minority, ammunition to be used by them in ad hominem attacks against those who’s views they disagree with.

 

For this reason I don’t post personal information, nor do I post information that might confirm any personal information I do not wish to share.

 

So, by example, when you who I vote for, my answer is to provide no answer that will indicate one piece of information I have never shared, my nationality.

 

So don’t take it personally (pun intended), I certainly do not accuse you of being one of the members who engage in personal attacks, but I trust you will understand and accept why I keep personal information off this forum.

Incidentally, I advise others never to post personal information or introduce anyone they care about into discussion on this forum, sadly too many learn the hard way why that’s good advice.

 

Yet you have no problem assuming others stances without actually taking a moment to ask. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Except that time you posted about competing in female over 60's bike races.

No I never did.

 

But then comprehension was never your strong point.

 

Thanks though for demonstrating the point I was making to Jerry.

[stoner]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Except that time you posted about competing in female over 60's bike races.

 

Are you assuming their sexual identity ?

[stoner]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The conviction is a matter of court record.

 

It’s not a joke and the WH is the last place any Convicted Felon should be.

 

What are you talking about conviction and court records. So strange. Yes it is a joke because the current state of American politics is just that. 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

Yet you have no problem assuming others stances without actually taking a moment to ask. 

That doesn’t seem to address my post you were responding to.

 

Let’s try this.

 

Do you agree or disagree with what I say in that post regarding not sharing personal information on this forum?

 

 

[Hanaguma]

15 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Absolutely wrong.

 

If it was 'pragmatic' and not 'personality' there is nothing that was better under Trumps term of office, other than if you happened to be a billionaire or a large corporation (are you either of these things?). By any metric imagineable, the last 4 years under Biden have been soooooooo much better than Trump both domestically and on the world stage.

 

This is why the MAGA brigade are called 'cultist' as literally facts and figures don't seem to sway them at all.

I was actually in the US during the Trump presidency, several times. Gas was cheap, inflation was very low, flight costs were down. Housing was affordable and mortgage rates were very reasonable. No wars happening. People seemed happier than now. 

How about you, Johnny? What was YOUR experience in American under Trump and/or Biden? 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

What are you talking about conviction and court records. So strange. Yes it is a joke because the current state of American politics is just that. 

Convicted on 34 felony counts in a court of law as recorded in court records.

[stoner]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

That doesn’t seem to address my post you were responding to.

 

Let’s try this.

 

Do you agree or disagree with what I say in that post regarding not sharing personal information on this forum?

 

 

 

I support your right to say or not say anything you chose. I stand beside you to fight for that right.

[stoner]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Convicted on 34 felony counts in a court of law as recorded in court records.

 

Yes the whole world knows that not a single person in this thread has said otherwise. 

 

What's your point ?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

I support your right to say or not say anything you chose. I stand beside you to fight for that right.

Well thank you but that wasn’t my point.

 

My point is that personal information shared on this forum will be used by a minority of antagonistic individuals as ammunition in ad hominem attacks on those they disagree with.

 

Hence it is advisable not to share personal information or anything from which personal details might be construed.

 

[stoner]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Well thank you but that wasn’t my point.

 

My point is that personal information shared on this forum will be used by a minority of antagonistic individuals as ammunition in ad hominem attacks on those they disagree with.

 

Hence it is advisable not to share personal information or anything from which personal details might be construed.

 

 

Why would you,let some strangers opinion on the Internet have that much impact on you ?

[JonnyF]

11 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

Are you assuming their sexual identity ?

 

Only based on what they posted themselves in a cycling thread.

 

 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

My point is that personal information shared on this forum will be used by a minority of antagonistic individuals as ammunition in ad hominem attacks on those they disagree with.

 

Like calling them gammon? 

 

Perish the thought that someone might do that, eh Chomps...

[jerrymahoney]

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not a joke and the WH is the last place any Convicted Felon should be.

Well that's the rub -- being a convicted felon and being POTUS are not mutually exclusive.

 

I hope Trump is not elected again but I wonder at times whether all this convicted felon mantra stuff hurts or helps him.

 

I may try to find it again but there was one Politico (?) reporter who has been traveling around the country since the verdict and he said that, other than the WDC Beltway and NYC, not many people are paying close attention to the 34 conviction doings.

 

Note: '34' is going to go down in the numbers icons like Heinz 57 varieties or Baskin-Robbins 31 flavors

Edited June 11 by jerrymahoney

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

Why would you,let some strangers opinion on the Internet have that much impact on you ?

Why would I give them the opportunity to engage in personal attacks and perhaps more importantly, why do they do so?

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Only based on what they posted themselves in a cycling thread.

 

 

Perfect example of the behavior I refer to.

 

Though laced with poor comprehension.