2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Let me dumb it down even further: Your initial post:

 

"That's the interview where Fauci finally admits that closing schools for a year during Covid was a mistake. It only took Mister I Am The Science 4 years to admit that 'conspiracy theorists' (and Trump) were right."

 

You reference to Conspiracy theorists is nothing to do with the statement made by Fauci. That's you trying to make something of nothing.

And your response was:

There were no conspiracy theories around closing schools, it happened in most countries in the world. The fact that they are now saying it was a mistake to keep them closed for so long says what?

You thought I was referring to an actual conspiracy, when I was only referring to the term "conspiracy theorist" and its use as a lever of censorship. This initial misunderstanding has led you astray in your subsequent interpretations.

Just now, rattlesnake said:

And your response was:

There were no conspiracy theories around closing schools, it happened in most countries in the world. The fact that they are now saying it was a mistake to keep them closed for so long says what?

You thought I was referring to an actual conspiracy, when I was only referring to the term "conspiracy theorist" and its use as a lever of censorship. This initial misunderstanding has led you astray in your subsequent interpretations.

Again attempting to make something out of nothing and associating what Fauci said about school closures with conspiracy theorist

32 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

You are completely missing the point. Facebook complied to government-steered censorship, which was multifaceted. Another example from the UK:

Ministers' had 'chilling' secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/government-secret-unit-covid-lockdown-b2350647.html

Guess you didn't read the entire article?

 

“It has never tracked the activity of individuals and has a blanket ban on referring journalists and MPs to social media platforms.

 

None of the people named in this report were ever referred to social media platforms by the Government and any claim otherwise is objectively false.”

23 minutes ago, Screaming said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/06/05/fauci-hearing-covid-social-distancing-wrong/73962967007/

 

Fauci confessed that COVID guidelines were made up. This guy is a liar and cannot be trusted.

An opinion piece from a person in Texas. Hardly credible

On 6/20/2024 at 8:04 AM, JonnyF said:

I would agree.

 

When wokeism declares that a woman can have a penis, and that people can be whatever they say they are just by declaring it, when people have their own "truth", when people vote for a President so clearly suffering from dementia, there is clearly a degree of mental illness in play in the US right now. 

 

History will look back and laugh at the current period. 

"When wokeism declares that a woman can have a penis"

 

It has always been true that a woman can have a penis.

In fact if she is attractive enough she can have a different penis every night.

You can't blame that on "wokeism".

Before COVID I couldn't even say epidemiologist, now I are one.

3 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Guess you didn't read the entire article?

 

“It has never tracked the activity of individuals and has a blanket ban on referring journalists and MPs to social media platforms.

 

None of the people named in this report were ever referred to social media platforms by the Government and any claim otherwise is objectively false.”

 

You guessed wrong. This article is an example of the multifaceted government censorship which I was referring to.

4 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

An opinion piece from a person in Texas. Hardly credible

 

From the horse's mouth, is that credible enough?

 

Fauci Said Masks 'Not Really Effective in Keeping Out Virus,' Email Reveals
Dr. Anthony Fauci wrote in February 2020 that store-bought face masks would not be very effective at protecting against the COVID-19 pandemic and advised a traveler not to wear one.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/fauci-said-masks-not-really-effective-keeping-out-virus-email-reveals-1596703

Brainwashed to the core and blindly following the Orange one. Reminds me of another nation long long time ago. 

41 minutes ago, johng said:

Enough rubbish Mr linky man  BTW  I gave you a laughing emoji  yes farcical.

 

You know full well that many were censored and are still censored,  

just because you agree with censorship does not make it right.

soon enough they will be censoring something you care about for some spurious reason...well maybe not as you agree with everything they say anyway ?

 

And were is your link to the "misinformation. Which killed thousands"  kettle black

 

Censored for very good reasons. There are hundreds of articles about misinformation killing thousands. Here's but one.

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/16/1099070400/how-vaccine-misinformation-made-the-covid-19-death-toll-worse

18 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

You guessed wrong. This article is an example of the multifaceted government censorship which I was referring to.

And they said it was false. Got another article providing this? From a credible source?

18 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

From the horse's mouth, is that credible enough?

 

Fauci Said Masks 'Not Really Effective in Keeping Out Virus,' Email Reveals
Dr. Anthony Fauci wrote in February 2020 that store-bought face masks would not be very effective at protecting against the COVID-19 pandemic and advised a traveler not to wear one.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/fauci-said-masks-not-really-effective-keeping-out-virus-email-reveals-1596703

Masks don't protect you, they protect others if you have the virus. Masks are a popular topic with conspiracy theorists and misinformation on social media.

 

If you have invasive surgery, please tell the doctors and attending staff not to wear masks because they don't work.

Edited June 21, 20242 yr by Roo Island

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

And some of the data is outright frightening. The guy at 4:55 was spot on.

"some". That could mean anything from vanishingly small on up. There is a huge amount of data showing that the vaccines not only reduced deaths, but also the severity of the cases. There is a positive correlation between severity of symptoms and the incidence of long covid.

11 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Masks don't protect you, they protect others if you have the virus. Masks are a popular topic with conspiracy theorists and misinformation on social media.

 

If you have invasive surgery, please tell the doctors and attending staff not to wear masks because they don't work.

 

Again, you are missing the point. The issue isn't about the effectiveness of masks or lack thereof, it is about Fauci's propensity to assert things in the name of "Science" and then make about-turns a little further down the road.

26 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

And they said it was false. Got another article providing this? From a credible source?

 

Here are a couple, paywalled links for reference and archived links to access the actual article.


Many censored social media posts did not contain Covid-19 misinformation

A large proportion of posts the government targeted for removal by the digital platforms promoted wild conspiracy theories and misinformation but many others ­simply questioned the effectiveness of lockdowns and masks, shared information now accepted as accurate, and urged people to protest against pandemic measures.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/many-censored-social-media-posts-did-not-contain-covid19-misinformation/news-story/c47a8217ffada2cf576475aef3c12c63

 

https://archive.ph/BGZ43#selection-305.5-305.77

Covid Censorship Proved to Be Deadly
Government and social-media companies colluded to stifle dissenters who turned out to be right.
[…]
Twitter blacklisted Stanford physician and economist Jay Bhattacharya for showing Covid almost exclusively threatened the elderly, severely reducing the visibility of his tweets. When Stanford health policy scholar Scott Atlas began advising the White House, YouTube erased his most prominent video opposing lockdowns.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-censorship-proved-to-be-deadly-social-media-government-pandemic-health-697c32c4

https://archive.ph/1qaUr#selection-457.37-457.392

19 hours ago, tilaceer said:

 in the interests of edification I would be willing to send this book to you, as it is no longer available at Dasa Books in Bangkok.

I'm sure he would gladly accept it so as to ensure that it doesn't fall into the wrong hands.

55 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Again, you are missing the point. The issue isn't about the effectiveness of masks or lack thereof, it is about Fauci's propensity to assert things in the name of "Science" and then make about-turns a little further down the road.

Think about what happens when you know where you want to drive to but you're in unfamiliar territory. You know accurately in which direction your goal lies, but you may turn down a street that starts in the correct direction but then turns into a dead end.  It seems like you're one of those who end up in the ditch.

2 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Think about what happens when you know where you want to drive to but you're in unfamiliar territory. You know accurately in which direction your goal lies, but you may turn down a street that starts in the correct direction but then turns into a dead end.  It seems like you're one of those who end up in the ditch.

 

You too are missing the point.

 

Let's continue with your analogy.

 

Would you see it as problematic if an authority figure were to say "I am the sole competent authority in the field of urban navigation and this is incontrovertibly the only street everyone should go down, those who even remotely suggest another route are threats to society", before stating two years later "Going down that road was a mistake"?

1 hour ago, Roo Island said:

If you have invasive surgery, please tell the doctors and attending staff not to wear masks because they don't work

As you said they do not work to protect the doctor  they might work to protect the patient in the event of doctor coughing, sneezing,sweating  in to the patients open wound,these being properly fitted masks.  the masks used during the pandemic ?

33 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

You too are missing the point.

 

Let's continue with your analogy.

 

Would you see it as problematic if an authority figure were to say "I am the sole competent authority in the field of urban navigation and this is incontrovertibly the only street everyone should go down, those who even remotely suggest another route are threats to society", before stating two years later "Going down that road was a mistake"?

It seems the grass in the ditch is too deep for you to have a good view.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

When Stanford health policy scholar Scott Atlas began advising the White House, YouTube erased his most prominent video opposing lockdowns.

It seems you're impressed with his position at Stanford while pointedly ignoring the views of other "Stanford scholars" ... to wit the quote from Stanford University's StanfordReport :

 

The Stanford Faculty Senate on Thursday condemned the COVID-19-related actions of Scott Atlas, a Hoover Institution senior fellow serving as a special assistant to President Donald Trump for coronavirus issues.

 

A resolution, introduced by members of the Faculty Senate Steering Committee and approved by 85 percent of the senate membership, specified six actions that Atlas has taken that “promote a view of COVID-19 that contradicts medical science.”

5 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

It seems you're impressed with his position at Stanford while pointedly ignoring the views of other "Stanford scholars" ... to wit the quote from Stanford University's StanfordReport :

 

The Stanford Faculty Senate on Thursday condemned the COVID-19-related actions of Scott Atlas, a Hoover Institution senior fellow serving as a special assistant to President Donald Trump for coronavirus issues.

 

A resolution, introduced by members of the Faculty Senate Steering Committee and approved by 85 percent of the senate membership, specified six actions that Atlas has taken that “promote a view of COVID-19 that contradicts medical science.”

 

The issue discussed is censorship, not its justifications.

11 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

It seems the grass in the ditch is too deep for you to have a good view.

 

What ditch is that, gamb00ler?

4 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Again, you are missing the point. The issue isn't about the effectiveness of masks or lack thereof, it is about Fauci's propensity to assert things in the name of "Science" and then make about-turns a little further down the road.

Perhaps because it was a fast moving and mutating virus that the world had never seen? Jeez. Some nitpick faucI who knows more about infectious diseases than just about anyone.

2 hours ago, johng said:

As you said they do not work to protect the doctor  they might work to protect the patient in the event of doctor coughing, sneezing,sweating  in to the patients open wound,these being properly fitted masks.  the masks used during the pandemic ?

Might work? They do work. That's why medical staff wear them. To protect the patients.

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

The issue discussed is censorship, not its justifications.

Which isn't this topic

2 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

It seems the grass in the ditch is too deep for you to have a good view.

 

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

What ditch is that, gamb00ler?

Oh... you know... the one that some people drive into when they don't make the required course adjustment.

5 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Brainwashed to the core and blindly following the Orange one. Reminds me of another nation long long time ago. 

For the record:

You mean it reminds you of the nation that nearly 

found a final solution to a certain group ,that the biden supporters are chanting about all over again, in the cities of the UNITED STATES!

 

 

https://time.com/6973573/palestine-campus-protests-joe-biden-democrats/

 

For the record in your opinion of facts! Two tier hate when it comes to the lefts boogieman!

Its always hitler with these leftest as they themselves act out Hitlers fantasy  , with chants & humiliating slogans, just like in the 30’s.

 

WASHINGTON (TND) — A protester at George Washington University invoked a horrific Nazi euphemism Thursday by carrying a sign reading “final solution” while at a protest on campus.

 

https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/anti-israel-protester-seen-holding-final-solution-banner-at-george-washington-university-nazi-phrase-genocide-world-war-ii-palestine-israeli-gaza-ceasefire-war-campus-protests-columbia-university#

 

 

 

Edited June 21, 20242 yr by riclag

2 hours ago, riclag said:

For the record:

You mean it reminds you of the nation that nearly 

found a final solution to a certain group ,that the biden supporters are chanting about all over again, in the cities of the UNITED STATES!

 

 

https://time.com/6973573/palestine-campus-protests-joe-biden-democrats/

 

For the record in your opinion of facts! Two tier hate when it comes to the lefts boogieman!

Its always hitler with these leftest as they themselves act out Hitlers fantasy  , with chants & humiliating slogans, just like in the 30’s.

 

WASHINGTON (TND) — A protester at George Washington University invoked a horrific Nazi euphemism Thursday by carrying a sign reading “final solution” while at a protest on campus.

 

https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/anti-israel-protester-seen-holding-final-solution-banner-at-george-washington-university-nazi-phrase-genocide-world-war-ii-palestine-israeli-gaza-ceasefire-war-campus-protests-columbia-university#

 

 

 

What's this got to do with Fauci?

7 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Brainwashed to the core and blindly following the Orange one. Reminds me of another nation long long time ago. 

 

1 minute ago, Roo Island said:

What's this got to do with Fauci?

Did you ask them too?

Reminds me of….