8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

He does seem to be rather unhinged. However, questioning the Israeli narrative has become weaponised and is nearly forbidden. The Israeli lobby is the largest in the US, and anyone questioning anything Israel does is automatically branded as being a Jew hater and anti semetic. That is disgusting and anti democratic.

 

 

 

   Yeah, but this thread is about Pires Morgan interviewing Roger Waters in the UK and both of them are from the U.K and that talk about Israel  . Nothing at all to do with the USA 

33 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

But nobody wants them.  They tried to ship thousands out of Nazi held Europe in WW2 but no one would take them.

Why does the USA not want them? 

 

43 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

Israel doesnt allow evidence.  Unlike other wars Israel has Gaza isolated and fenced in.  Journalists, apart from IDF, are not allowed and are usually murdered "accidently" gathering such evidence.

 

I bet you don't have evidence for that, either.

38 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

But nobody wants them.  They tried to ship thousands out of Nazi held Europe in WW2 but no one would take them.

 

   So what should happen to the Jews ?

What is the final solution to the Jewish problem ?

 

57 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

Israel doesnt allow evidence.  Unlike other wars Israel has Gaza isolated and fenced in.  Journalists, apart from IDF, are not allowed and are usually murdered "accidently" gathering such evidence.

Why oh why are these murderous c*&$#& allowed to continue their elimination of the Palestinian people?
 

103 journalists killed in 150 days in Gaza: a tragedy for Palestinian journalism
https://rsf.org/en/103-journalists-killed-150-days-gaza-tragedy-palestinian-journalism

Pink Floyd has always been a garbage boomers band

11 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Why oh why are these murderous c*&$#& allowed to continue their elimination of the Palestinian people?
 

103 journalists killed in 150 days in Gaza: a tragedy for Palestinian journalism
https://rsf.org/en/103-journalists-killed-150-days-gaza-tragedy-palestinian-journalism

 

   Make your mind up .

You previously claimed that Journalists are banned from going into Gaza , how can Journalists be getting killed if they aren't allowed into Gaza ?

   It cannot  be both 

Edited July 5, 20242 yr by Nick Carter icp

11 hours ago, Social Media said:

asking, "Why did they wait seven hours before they started machine-gunning everyone?"

 

   Roger : That has already been answered and documented .

Israel were taken by surprise on a National holiday and it takes time to mobilise an Army 

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

How did a nation born of the holocaust cast 750,000 Palestinians out of their homes, upon the founding of the nation and continue 76 years of extreme oppression? 

 

 

 

Complete and utter nonsense; the Palestinians left in 1948 at the behest of the surrounding Arab states, who told them to evacuate so that the combined armies of those Arab states could wipe out every jew in Israel.

 

They were told that they could then return; unfortunately, as history bares witness, that didn’t work out how the Arabs planned. Your distortion of history is antisemitic Palestinian propaganda, no more, no less, but unsurprising coming from you, having witnessed your posting history.

 

 

8 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Who is this man? "Waters"? 

Important? 

No!👎

Maybe for people who have a cultural education gap....yes

On 7/5/2024 at 3:50 AM, Neeranam said:

Do you think criticizing Hamas makes one an Anti-Muslim? 

Roger is not an antisemite, please quote one thing that he says that makes him so. 

Roger Waters accused of repeated antisemitism in new documentary

 

Pink Floyd’s co-founder, Roger Waters, has been accused of repeated antisemitism, with claims he referred to “Jew food” and made up a song about his agent that called him a “<deleted> Jew”.

An investigation into Waters by the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA) interviewed those who worked alongside him, who made allegations of repeated derogatory references to Jews.

 

The CAA has also published emails from Waters where he proposed that an inflatable pig floating above his concerts should be scrawled with an antisemitic slogan. In the emails from 2010 he also suggested “bombing” audiences with confetti in the shape of swastikas, stars of David, dollar signs and other symbols.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/28/roger-waters-accused-of-repeated-antisemitism-in-new-documentary

 

2 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

Maybe for people who have a cultural education gap....yes

Oh dear, you're listen to politics from somebody outdated? Just someone who could hold a guitar in his hand once? Brain damaged by any drugs?

And this his statement has something to do with culture? Now, more with cancel culture🥴

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Do you think criticizing Hamas makes one an Anti-Muslim? 

Roger is not an antisemite, please quote one thing that he says that makes him so. 

He suggested that Jews go back to the European countries they came from. While trying to justify that by saying that jews should accept a muslim majority in a future Palestinian state. The very suggestion that Jews should go back from where they came when now the majority of Jews were/are born in Israel is antisemitic. Why is it that jews aren't allowed to have a homeland, But all other religions can? 

 

Hamas are a terrorist death cult. They care less for Palestinians as they do for Jews. So don't put words into my mouth trying to say  criticising Hamas is somehow anti Muslim. The people of Gaza are starting to turn against Hamas for what they are doing. Which is a good thing even if it is a slow process.

 

Also I note that no one cares of the deaths in Somalia, or talks about arabs killing arabs when they end up fighting each other. But when Israel defends itself from Hamas all of a sudden it is Genocide. So, yes waters is an antisemite as are those that claim Genocide is being committed against the people of Gazza. When Hamas are responsible for using these people as human shields. Hamas are scum and should be destroyed.

16 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Do you think criticizing Hamas makes one an Anti-Muslim? 

 

 

   No, but Roger Waters comments on Jews does make him an Anti Semite .

   He is one of these older people were being anti Semitic is quite normal

55 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Hamas are a terrorist death cult. They care less for Palestinians as they do for Jews.

Absolute nonsense. 

1 hour ago, CharlieKo said:

He suggested that Jews go back to the European countries they came from.

To be fair to him, he is right that it has caused nothing but hostilies and wars in the last 75 years.

14 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Absolute nonsense. 

Tell that to the Gazans who they willingly sacrifice, have you already forgotten what Sinwar and other Hamas leaders have said?

Huge respect to Roger Waters - musician, poet and humanist. 

 

PS: UN report what? Those reporters didn't even go to collect evidence - instead they met with "locals" and select politically correct stories. Please, UN????

6 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

Huge respect to Roger Waters - musician, poet and humanist. 

 

PS: UN report what? Those reporters didn't even go to collect evidence - instead they met with "locals" and select politically correct stories. Please, UN????

 

20 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

To be fair to him, he is right that it has caused nothing but hostilies and wars in the last 75 years.

 

   But about 50 % of Israeli Jews are of Arab/Middle East  descent 

45 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Absolute nonsense. 

 

This is classic antisemitism; somebody states that Hamas are a terrorist death cult, which is staggeringly obvious, to everyone other than somebody that is antisemitic; and you call their comment “Absolute nonsense”  …. this is how you expose yourself, not by claiming to be antisemitic, but by providing irrefutable evidence that you indeed are.

 

 

Waters is a <deleted>$er!

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Absolute nonsense. 

You obviously don't know what you are talking about!

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

To be fair to him, he is right that it has caused nothing but hostilies and wars in the last 75 years.

So you must be an antisemite also, if you are defending that nonsense! And of course these hostilities are only Israels fault. Nothing to do with Palestinians being willing to make peace. So so Pathetic.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   But about 50 % of Israeli Jews are of Arab/Middle East  descent 

That is something else that is over looked. Jews are supposed to live side by side with arabs in a single state, But Arab states refuse to let jews live in their country. They were kicked out of arab countries, when the arabs lost the war in 1948.

9 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

That is something else that is over looked. Jews are supposed to live side by side with arabs in a single state, But Arab states refuse to let jews live in their country. They were kicked out of arab countries, when the arabs lost the war in 1948.

Rather simplifying thing.

Some Jews faced persecution and were kicked out some Arab countries due to the creation of Israel, and the subsequent Arab-Israeli wars led to significant displacement and dispossession of Palestinian Arabs. 

Israeli Jews are the ones that wanted a Jewish state, they started this whole mess and continue to stir it up by trying to ethnically cleanse the area,

Not all Arab countries kicked out Jews but I expect they were made unwelcome due to the Apartheid on Israel. Do you think there are no consequences for the inequality in Israel for Arabs?

44 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

So you must be an antisemite also, if you are defending that nonsense! And of course these hostilities are only Israels fault. Nothing to do with Palestinians being willing to make peace. So so Pathetic.

Anti Zionist, don't weaponize antisemitism. I say a Jewish prayer every morning, giving thanks for another day. 

17 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

and the subsequent Arab-Israeli wars led to significant displacement and dispossession of Palestinian Arabs. 

They were told to leave by the Arab league, on the basis that they would return once all the jews had been killed. The 1948 war didn't turn out as the Arab armies had hoped!

17 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Anti Zionist, don't weaponize antisemitism. I say a Jewish prayer every morning, giving thanks for another day. 

Are you a Jew hating Jew? Do you wear tafillin  every morning when you pray?

Always very unpleasant to hear stars of footbal, entertainement or TV, making politically oriented statements in public.

 

As if the public gives a hoot  ?

 

They are there to entertain...not to teach society how to vote or how to orientate one's political convictions.