Popular Post Social Media Posted July 8, 2024 Popular Post Posted July 8, 2024 The world has experienced average temperatures surpassing the critical 1.5C (2.7F) warming threshold for twelve consecutive months, according to alarming data released by the European Union's Copernicus Climate Change Service. June 2023 set a new record as the hottest month, marking a full year of temperatures consistently 1.5C above pre-industrial levels. This troubling trend highlights the severe challenge climate change poses to the planet, despite global efforts to curb it. The past year has seen an average global temperature 1.64C higher than the pre-industrial average and 0.76C above the 1991-2020 average. These figures, while distressing, do not yet indicate a permanent breach of the warming threshold set by the Paris Agreement. The temporary influence of the El Niño weather phenomenon may cause future temperature reductions. However, the persistent data trend underscores ongoing and significant changes in the Earth's climate. Carlo Buontempo, director of Copernicus, emphasized that the continuous rise in temperatures is more than a statistical anomaly, illustrating a significant and ongoing shift in our climate. He warned that unless we stop adding greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and oceans, breaking temperature records will become inevitable. This warning comes amidst a prolonged heatwave in the United States, impacting 130 million people and causing dangerously high temperatures. Dr. Friederike Otto, a climate scientist at Imperial College London's Grantham Institute, noted a high probability that 2024 could surpass 2023 as the hottest year on record. She pointed out that while El Niño is a naturally recurring phenomenon that cannot be prevented, the continued burning of fossil fuels—oil, gas, and coal—can and must be stopped to combat climate change. The monthly data release from Copernicus also confirmed that last month was the hottest June on record, marking the 13th consecutive month as the hottest since records began. Despite the global average smoothing out temperature extremes, some regions still experienced cool conditions. For example, parts of Turkey had above-average temperatures in June, while the western parts of Europe experienced temperatures at or below average. The persistent rise in global temperatures over the past twelve months highlights the urgency of addressing climate change. The devastating consequences of this changed climate have been felt worldwide, with heatwaves claiming lives in India, Saudi Arabia, Gaza, and the United States, and wildfires forcing tourist evacuations in Greece. These events underscore the critical need for global action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and prevent further warming. The Copernicus data indicates that every month since July 2023 has had an average temperature 1.5C hotter than the fossil fuel era. Limiting warming to no more than 1.5C above pre-industrial levels is seen as crucial to avoid more severe impacts of climate change, a target enshrined in the landmark Paris Agreement. However, over the last twelve months, the global average temperature has been 1.64C above the pre-industrial average and 0.76C above the 1991-2020 average, according to Copernicus. These findings highlight "continuing" changes to the planet's climate, according to Copernicus's director Carlo Buontempo. He stated, "This is more than a statistical oddity, and it highlights a large and continuing shift in our climate." Buontempo further emphasized that it is "inevitable" temperature records will be broken repeatedly unless greenhouse gas emissions are curtailed. The current data from Copernicus highlights the severe and ongoing impacts of climate change. The prolonged heatwave in the United States, which has shattered records with dangerously high temperatures, is just one example of the devastating consequences being felt around the world. In India, Saudi Arabia, Gaza, and the United States, people have died from extreme heatwaves. In Greece, tourists had to be evacuated amid wildfires. Dr. Friederike Otto from Imperial College London's Grantham Institute stressed the importance of addressing the root causes of climate change. She said, "El Niño is a naturally occurring phenomenon that will always come and go. We can't stop El Niño, but we can stop burning oil, gas, and coal." Her statement underscores the need for a global commitment to reducing fossil fuel consumption to mitigate the impacts of climate change. The persistent rise in global temperatures and the record-breaking heatwaves and wildfires serve as a stark reminder of the urgent need for action. The Copernicus data indicates that the global average temperature has been 1.64C above the pre-industrial average over the past year, highlighting the ongoing and significant changes in the planet's climate. The findings from Copernicus are a clear call to action for global leaders and communities to prioritize reducing greenhouse gas emissions and addressing the root causes of climate change to prevent further warming and its devastating impacts. Credit: Sky News 2024-07-09 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 4
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted July 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted July 9, 2024 5 hours ago, Social Media said: Dr. Friederike Otto, a climate scientist at Imperial College London's Grantham Institute, noted a high probability that 2024 could surpass 2023 as the hottest year on record. She pointed out that while El Niño is a naturally recurring phenomenon that cannot be prevented, the continued burning of fossil fuels—oil, gas, and coal—can and must be stopped to combat climate change. People like that amuse me muchly. They come out on interviews with nonsense about stop using fossil fuel, but never say how that could be achieved. They also never say if it would actually work, and IMO they don't know if it would work, or if it did do something just what that would be. Do those muppets know now many ICE vehicles are out there on the planet, and how they could all be replaced, and how long it would take to replace them, and how the vehicle owners could afford to do so, and where the raw materials would come from to convert the billions of ICE vehicles to an alternative? Must be great living in some alternate universe. The irony is that without fossil fuel, those muppets would still be riding in horse drawn carriages, using whale oil for lighting, and would never have a cushy job like they do 5 1
thaibeachlovers Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 5 hours ago, Social Media said: Dr. Friederike Otto, a climate scientist at Imperial College London's Grantham Institute, noted a high probability that 2024 could surpass 2023 as the hottest year on record. She pointed out that while El Niño is a naturally recurring phenomenon that cannot be prevented, the continued burning of fossil fuels—oil, gas, and coal—can and must be stopped to combat climate change. People like that amuse me muchly. They come out on interviews with nonsense about stop using fossil fuel, but never say how that could be achieved. They also never say if it would actually work, and IMO they don't know if it would work, or if it did do something just what that would be. Do those muppets know now many ICE vehicles are out there on the planet, and how they could all be replaced, and how long it would take to replace them, and how the vehicle owners could afford to do so, and where the raw materials would come from to convert the billions of ICE vehicles to an alternative? Must be great living in some alternate universe. The irony is that without fossil fuel, those muppets would still be riding in horse drawn carriages, using whale oil for lighting, and would never have a cushy job like they do 1
Popular Post James105 Posted July 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted July 9, 2024 Maggie summed up this nonsense quite nicely: 2 1 3
Popular Post JonnyF Posted July 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted July 9, 2024 6 hours ago, Social Media said: She pointed out that while El Niño is a naturally recurring phenomenon that cannot be prevented, the continued burning of fossil fuels—oil, gas, and coal—can and must be stopped to combat climate change. I suggest she has a word with the celebrity/elitist climate alarmists jetting around the world in private jets. Because until the preachers practice what they preach, nobody else is going to change their behaviour (apart from maybe some useful idiots inconveniencing themselves and making zero difference). Unless of course, this is all just a ruse to terrify the proles into transferring more money to the state in the form of "green" taxes? 2 1 1 1
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: People like that amuse me muchly. They come out on interviews with nonsense about stop using fossil fuel, but never say how that could be achieved. They also never say if it would actually work, and IMO they don't know if it would work, or if it did do something just what that would be. Do those muppets know now many ICE vehicles are out there on the planet, and how they could all be replaced, and how long it would take to replace them, and how the vehicle owners could afford to do so, and where the raw materials would come from to convert the billions of ICE vehicles to an alternative? Must be great living in some alternate universe. The irony is that without fossil fuel, those muppets would still be riding in horse drawn carriages, using whale oil for lighting, and would never have a cushy job like they do It's like a scientist warning about an incoming asteroid, but who has no clue how to stop it. Therefore, the scientist shouldn't tell anyone. Perhaps things are different in New Zealand, but in the rest of the world there are scientists who monitor weather and climate, and other scientists who focus on mitigating global warming. 1
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 3 hours ago, JonnyF said: I suggest she has a word with the celebrity/elitist climate alarmists jetting around the world in private jets. Because until the preachers practice what they preach, nobody else is going to change their behaviour (apart from maybe some useful idiots inconveniencing themselves and making zero difference). Unless of course, this is all just a ruse to terrify the proles into transferring more money to the state in the form of "green" taxes? This topic is about the current hot weather. I don't know why you guys slip so easy into the old "no need to fix Global Warming, Al Gore has a big house" nuttery. If your house is in danger of being destroyed by hurricanes or rising sea levels, why should you care if Tom Cruise has a private jet? 1 1
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 3 hours ago, James105 said: Maggie summed up this nonsense quite nicely: And yet the planet is warming. 1 1
Popular Post James105 Posted July 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted July 9, 2024 32 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: And yet the planet is warming. "The past year has seen an average global temperature 1.64C higher than the pre-industrial average and 0.76C above the 1991-2020 average." Hmmm. Wonder how this compares to the 1930s and why that decade is never mentioned in these "record" temperatures as that decade was (in)famously hot. The periods selected here seem to be "pre-industrial" (which I assume to be pre 1850) and 1991-2020. Seems very selective to me. Wonder why? 2 2
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted July 9, 2024 12 minutes ago, James105 said: "The past year has seen an average global temperature 1.64C higher than the pre-industrial average and 0.76C above the 1991-2020 average." Hmmm. Wonder how this compares to the 1930s and why that decade is never mentioned in these "record" temperatures as that decade was (in)famously hot. The periods selected here seem to be "pre-industrial" (which I assume to be pre 1850) and 1991-2020. Seems very selective to me. Wonder why? There was a very short temperature spike in the 1930s. There was no associated long term warming trend, as is the case now. Scientists are more concerned about the trend, not so much the current record temperatures. 1 2
JonnyF Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 57 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: This topic is about the current hot weather. I don't know why you guys slip so easy into the old "no need to fix Global Warming, Al Gore has a big house" nuttery. Great point. I can't imagine why anyone would mention global warming in a thread with this title. 57 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: If your house is in danger of being destroyed by hurricanes or rising sea levels, why should you care if Tom Cruise has a private jet? I don't care. He can fill his boots as long as he doesn't demand everyone else do something about it (personally I've never heard Tom Cruise talk about it).
Purdey Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 I was watching videos of flat-earthers this morning explaining that NASA and all the other space agencies are making it all up. The flat-earthers look at photos of the earth and the planets and say they are fake. Now, those who think rising temperatures are somehow not true simply don't want to look for evidence. 1
Popular Post novacova Posted July 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted July 9, 2024 47 minutes ago, Purdey said: I was watching videos of flat-earthers this morning explaining that NASA and all the other space agencies are making it all up. The flat-earthers look at photos of the earth and the planets and say they are fake. Now, those who think rising temperatures are somehow not true simply don't want to look for evidence. Yeah so what, the climate is changing, show uncorrelated non-presumptive proof that human activity is the cause. You can’t, because there is none. These silly grafts don’t show or prove anything along with the incoming links. 1 1 1
Purdey Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 2 minutes ago, novacova said: Yeah so what, the climate is changing, show uncorrelated non-presumptive proof of the cause. You can’t, because there is none. These silly grafts don’t show or prove anything along with the incoming links. And the earth is flat? 1 1
James105 Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 36 minutes ago, Purdey said: I was watching videos of flat-earthers this morning explaining that NASA and all the other space agencies are making it all up. The flat-earthers look at photos of the earth and the planets and say they are fake. Now, those who think rising temperatures are somehow not true simply don't want to look for evidence. Flat earthers believe the earth is flat despite the overwhelming evidence that the earth is not flat. Those that are skeptical of "man made" global warming are skeptical due the underwhelming evidence that climate change is caused by human activities and isn't due to a great ball of fire that is 1.3 million times the size of earth, and struggle to understand how exporting emissions from the UK to India or China (at great expense) is somehow going to solve the problem. 1 1
novacova Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 24 minutes ago, Purdey said: And the earth is flat? Elementary
WDSmart Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 We're already "over the cliff" on climate change. Read this short book... New tab (books2read.com) 2 1
300sd Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 3 hours ago, Purdey said: I was watching videos of flat-earthers this morning explaining that NASA and all the other space agencies are making it all up. The flat-earthers look at photos of the earth and the planets and say they are fake. Now, those who think rising temperatures are somehow not true simply don't want to look for evidence. Interesting graph. What does the 100 years look like before 1880? Oh and by the way, are all those temperatures after 1980 actually from meteorological stations or are some of them guesstimates since some of those stations are not in operation anymore. Of course we all know that thermometers in the cities do not give the proper results. Where are these thermometers located?
susanlea Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: People like that amuse me muchly. They come out on interviews with nonsense about stop using fossil fuel, but never say how that could be achieved. They also never say if it would actually work, and IMO they don't know if it would work, or if it did do something just what that would be. Do those muppets know now many ICE vehicles are out there on the planet, and how they could all be replaced, and how long it would take to replace them, and how the vehicle owners could afford to do so, and where the raw materials would come from to convert the billions of ICE vehicles to an alternative? Must be great living in some alternate universe. The irony is that without fossil fuel, those muppets would still be riding in horse drawn carriages, using whale oil for lighting, and would never have a cushy job like they do 1.5c is a made up threshold.
susanlea Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 3 hours ago, WDSmart said: We're already "over the cliff" on climate change. Read this short book... New tab (books2read.com) Actually it is colder now than 20 years ago where I live. 1
susanlea Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 4 hours ago, Purdey said: I was watching videos of flat-earthers this morning explaining that NASA and all the other space agencies are making it all up. The flat-earthers look at photos of the earth and the planets and say they are fake. Now, those who think rising temperatures are somehow not true simply don't want to look for evidence. No real change since 1998. Tiny rise. 1
susanlea Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 5 hours ago, Danderman123 said: There was a very short temperature spike in the 1930s. There was no associated long term warming trend, as is the case now. Scientists are more concerned about the trend, not so much the current record temperatures. Scientists want grants. They fly in planes and drive in cars. They arent concerned at all apart from money. 1
susanlea Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 5 hours ago, James105 said: "The past year has seen an average global temperature 1.64C higher than the pre-industrial average and 0.76C above the 1991-2020 average." Hmmm. Wonder how this compares to the 1930s and why that decade is never mentioned in these "record" temperatures as that decade was (in)famously hot. The periods selected here seem to be "pre-industrial" (which I assume to be pre 1850) and 1991-2020. Seems very selective to me. Wonder why? Because they massaged the numbers to show more warming. Every old person says it was hotter in the 1930s and 1940s. 1
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, susanlea said: Scientists want grants. They fly in planes and drive in cars. They arent concerned at all apart from money. The scientists can get big money working for oil companies as climate change Deniers. Few do. Most researchers make very little money. If you told a grad student that they were faking science to get the big bucks, they would laugh in your face.
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, susanlea said: Because they massaged the numbers to show more warming. Every old person says it was hotter in the 1930s and 1940s. There are these things called "weather records" that say you are wrong. Global temperatures cooled after the 1940s. More to the point, scientists talk about global temperatures, whereas you are considering the temperature in Dogpatch, Arkansas.
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, susanlea said: No real change since 1998. Tiny rise. What you are saying is you can't read a graph. https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature 1
susanlea Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: What you are saying is you can't read a graph. https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature Shows recent cooling. 1
susanlea Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 12 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: There are these things called "weather records" that say you are wrong. Global temperatures cooled after the 1940s. More to the point, scientists talk about global temperatures, whereas you are considering the temperature in Dogpatch, Arkansas. Dodgy scientists on grants. No sensible person takes them seriously. Neither do you.
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, susanlea said: Shows recent cooling. Does anyone at your troll farm check your posts? You seem particularly detached from reality lately.
Yagoda Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 Warm is better for life than cold. Got to adapt, like our naked hairy ancestors did without technology.
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