Persistent Global Warming Breaches Critical Threshold for a Year, Copernicus Data Shows

[novacova]

Meanwhile the every one of all of us will wake up tomorrow and gleefully consume more products from the fossil industry without a shred of guilt, and this one will do it without being a hypocrite.

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13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

People like that amuse me muchly.

They come out on interviews with nonsense about stop using fossil fuel, but never say how that could be achieved. They also never say if it would actually work, and IMO they don't know if it would work, or if it did do something just what that would be.

Do those muppets know now many ICE vehicles are out there on the planet, and how they could all be replaced, and how long it would take to replace them, and how the vehicle owners could afford to do so, and where the raw materials would come from to convert the billions of ICE vehicles to an alternative?

Must be great living in some alternate universe.

 

The irony is that without fossil fuel, those muppets would still be riding in horse drawn carriages, using whale oil for lighting, and would never have a cushy job like they do

Thanks for the unfounded claims in regards to resources For example, take lithium. Lots of noise about it's scarcity. Turns out that the Salton Sea alone in the USA contains enough lithium to power 375 million EVs.

 

WASHINGTON, D.C.—The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) today announced results of the most comprehensive analysis to date quantifying the domestic lithium resources in California’s Salton Sea region. Conducted by DOE’s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, the analysis found that with expected technology advances, the Salton Sea region’s total resources could produce more than 3,400 kilotons of lithium, enough to support over 375 million batteries for electric vehicles (EV)—more than the total number of vehicles currently on U.S. roads. The analysis confirms the region has significant potential as a domestic source of this critical mineral used in batteries for stationary storage and EVs, both of which are crucial to the Biden-Harris Administration’s goal of a net-zero emissions economy by 2050.

And unlike  fossil fuels, lithium doesn't go up in smoke.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/articles/us-department-energy-analysis-confirms-californias-salton-sea-region-be-rich-domestic#:~:text=Conducted by DOE's Lawrence Berkeley,the total number of vehicles

 

And of course, lithium batteries can be recycled repeatedly.

 

Rare earths deposits are also being found.

"Rare-earth deposit discovered in Wyoming estimated to be world’s largest: American Rare Earths Limited announced last week the discovery of an estimated 2.3 billion metric tons of rare-earth metals at Halleck Creek in southeastern Wyoming, potentially the richest discovery in the world. The find has game-changing potential in the China-dominated rare-earth industry, which is vital to emerging technologies such as semiconductors, electric vehicles, and wind turbines."

https://www.csis.org/analysis/geoeconomics-bi-weekly-massive-rare-earth-find-another-chips-grant-and-more-sanctions#:~:text=Rare-earth deposit discovered in,richest discovery in the world.

And that's just in the United States.

 

And it looks like rare earths soon won't be necessary to create powerful magnets which are crucial to EV's and wind turbines.

 Must be
AI created it in just 3 months—and the implications are staggering.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a61147476/ai-developed-magnet-free-of-rare-earth-metals/

 

As for EVs replacing billions of ICE vehicles...are you a believer in magic? You think it's possible to snap your fingers and turn ICE vehicles in EVs?

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13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

People like that amuse me muchly.

They come out on interviews with nonsense about stop using fossil fuel, but never say how that could be achieved. They also never say if it would actually work, and IMO they don't know if it would work, or if it did do something just what that would be.

Do those muppets know now many ICE vehicles are out there on the planet, and how they could all be replaced, and how long it would take to replace them, and how the vehicle owners could afford to do so, and where the raw materials would come from to convert the billions of ICE vehicles to an alternative?

Must be great living in some alternate universe.

 

The irony is that without fossil fuel, those muppets would still be riding in horse drawn carriages, using whale oil for lighting, and would never have a cushy job like they do

Thanks for the unfounded claims in regards to resources For example, take lithium. Lots of noise about it's scarcity. Turns out that the Salton Sea alone in the USA contains enough lithium to power 375 million EVs.

 

WASHINGTON, D.C.—The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) today announced results of the most comprehensive analysis to date quantifying the domestic lithium resources in California’s Salton Sea region. Conducted by DOE’s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, the analysis found that with expected technology advances, the Salton Sea region’s total resources could produce more than 3,400 kilotons of lithium, enough to support over 375 million batteries for electric vehicles (EV)—more than the total number of vehicles currently on U.S. roads. The analysis confirms the region has significant potential as a domestic source of this critical mineral used in batteries for stationary storage and EVs, both of which are crucial to the Biden-Harris Administration’s goal of a net-zero emissions economy by 2050.

And unlike  fossil fuels, lithium doesn't go up in smoke.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/articles/us-department-energy-analysis-confirms-californias-salton-sea-region-be-rich-domestic#:~:text=Conducted by DOE's Lawrence Berkeley,the total number of vehicles

 

And of course, lithium batteries can be recycled repeatedly.

 

Rare earths deposits are also being found.

"Rare-earth deposit discovered in Wyoming estimated to be world’s largest: American Rare Earths Limited announced last week the discovery of an estimated 2.3 billion metric tons of rare-earth metals at Halleck Creek in southeastern Wyoming, potentially the richest discovery in the world. The find has game-changing potential in the China-dominated rare-earth industry, which is vital to emerging technologies such as semiconductors, electric vehicles, and wind turbines."

https://www.csis.org/analysis/geoeconomics-bi-weekly-massive-rare-earth-find-another-chips-grant-and-more-sanctions#:~:text=Rare-earth deposit discovered in,richest discovery in the world.

And that's just in the United States.

 

And it looks like rare earths soon won't be necessary to create powerful magnets which are crucial to EV's and wind turbines.

 Must be
AI created it in just 3 months—and the implications are staggering.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a61147476/ai-developed-magnet-free-of-rare-earth-metals/

 

As for EVs replacing billions of ICE vehicles...are you a believer in magic? You think it's possible to snap your fingers and turn ICE vehicles in EVs?

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13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

People like that amuse me muchly.

They come out on interviews with nonsense about stop using fossil fuel, but never say how that could be achieved. They also never say if it would actually work, and IMO they don't know if it would work, or if it did do something just what that would be.

Do those muppets know now many ICE vehicles are out there on the planet, and how they could all be replaced, and how long it would take to replace them, and how the vehicle owners could afford to do so, and where the raw materials would come from to convert the billions of ICE vehicles to an alternative?

Must be great living in some alternate universe.

 

The irony is that without fossil fuel, those muppets would still be riding in horse drawn carriages, using whale oil for lighting, and would never have a cushy job like they do

Thanks for the unfounded claims in regards to resources For example, take lithium. Lots of noise about it's scarcity. Turns out that the Salton Sea alone in the USA contains enough lithium to power 375 million EVs.

 

WASHINGTON, D.C.—The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) today announced results of the most comprehensive analysis to date quantifying the domestic lithium resources in California’s Salton Sea region. Conducted by DOE’s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, the analysis found that with expected technology advances, the Salton Sea region’s total resources could produce more than 3,400 kilotons of lithium, enough to support over 375 million batteries for electric vehicles (EV)—more than the total number of vehicles currently on U.S. roads. The analysis confirms the region has significant potential as a domestic source of this critical mineral used in batteries for stationary storage and EVs, both of which are crucial to the Biden-Harris Administration’s goal of a net-zero emissions economy by 2050.

And unlike  fossil fuels, lithium doesn't go up in smoke.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/articles/us-department-energy-analysis-confirms-californias-salton-sea-region-be-rich-domestic#:~:text=Conducted by DOE's Lawrence Berkeley,the total number of vehicles

 

And of course, lithium batteries can be recycled repeatedly.

 

Rare earths deposits are also being found.

"Rare-earth deposit discovered in Wyoming estimated to be world’s largest: American Rare Earths Limited announced last week the discovery of an estimated 2.3 billion metric tons of rare-earth metals at Halleck Creek in southeastern Wyoming, potentially the richest discovery in the world. The find has game-changing potential in the China-dominated rare-earth industry, which is vital to emerging technologies such as semiconductors, electric vehicles, and wind turbines."

https://www.csis.org/analysis/geoeconomics-bi-weekly-massive-rare-earth-find-another-chips-grant-and-more-sanctions#:~:text=Rare-earth deposit discovered in,richest discovery in the world.

And that's just in the United States.

 

And it looks like rare earths soon won't be necessary to create powerful magnets which are crucial to EV's and wind turbines.

 Must be
AI created it in just 3 months—and the implications are staggering.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a61147476/ai-developed-magnet-free-of-rare-earth-metals/

 

As for EVs replacing billions of ICE vehicles...are you a believer in magic? You think it's possible to snap your fingers and turn ICE vehicles in EVs?

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13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

People like that amuse me muchly.

They come out on interviews with nonsense about stop using fossil fuel, but never say how that could be achieved. They also never say if it would actually work, and IMO they don't know if it would work, or if it did do something just what that would be.

Do those muppets know now many ICE vehicles are out there on the planet, and how they could all be replaced, and how long it would take to replace them, and how the vehicle owners could afford to do so, and where the raw materials would come from to convert the billions of ICE vehicles to an alternative?

Must be great living in some alternate universe.

 

The irony is that without fossil fuel, those muppets would still be riding in horse drawn carriages, using whale oil for lighting, and would never have a cushy job like they do

Thanks for the unfounded claims in regards to resources For example, take lithium. Lots of noise about it's scarcity. Turns out that the Salton Sea alone in the USA contains enough lithium to power 375 million EVs.

 

WASHINGTON, D.C.—The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) today announced results of the most comprehensive analysis to date quantifying the domestic lithium resources in California’s Salton Sea region. Conducted by DOE’s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, the analysis found that with expected technology advances, the Salton Sea region’s total resources could produce more than 3,400 kilotons of lithium, enough to support over 375 million batteries for electric vehicles (EV)—more than the total number of vehicles currently on U.S. roads. The analysis confirms the region has significant potential as a domestic source of this critical mineral used in batteries for stationary storage and EVs, both of which are crucial to the Biden-Harris Administration’s goal of a net-zero emissions economy by 2050.

And unlike  fossil fuels, lithium doesn't go up in smoke.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/articles/us-department-energy-analysis-confirms-californias-salton-sea-region-be-rich-domestic#:~:text=Conducted by DOE's Lawrence Berkeley,the total number of vehicles

 

And of course, lithium batteries can be recycled repeatedly.

 

Rare earths deposits are also being found.

"Rare-earth deposit discovered in Wyoming estimated to be world’s largest: American Rare Earths Limited announced last week the discovery of an estimated 2.3 billion metric tons of rare-earth metals at Halleck Creek in southeastern Wyoming, potentially the richest discovery in the world. The find has game-changing potential in the China-dominated rare-earth industry, which is vital to emerging technologies such as semiconductors, electric vehicles, and wind turbines."

https://www.csis.org/analysis/geoeconomics-bi-weekly-massive-rare-earth-find-another-chips-grant-and-more-sanctions#:~:text=Rare-earth deposit discovered in,richest discovery in the world.

And that's just in the United States.

 

And it looks like rare earths soon won't be necessary to create powerful magnets which are crucial to EV's and wind turbines.

 Must be
AI created it in just 3 months—and the implications are staggering.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a61147476/ai-developed-magnet-free-of-rare-earth-metals/

 

As for EVs replacing billions of ICE vehicles...are you a believer in magic? You think it's possible to snap your fingers and turn ICE vehicles in EVs?

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1 hour ago, susanlea said:

Shows recent cooling.

I guess you don't understand regression analylsis. It's about trends.  All the yearly averages from the last 9 years are higher than any recorded year before (that includes 2023  which is the highest year on record and not noted on this chart). You may want to count back to 1998, the year of another massive El Nino. It's doesn't even make the top 10 anymore. Of course, that didn't stop denialists from creating graphs with that as a starting point to prove that the weather was actually cooling. Setting an anomalous year as a baseline is obviously deceptive. But that's what they did. However reality eventually exposed  their claim to be a cheap piece oftrickery designed to fool the willing ignorant.

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8 hours ago, James105 said:

 

"The past year has seen an average global temperature 1.64C higher than the pre-industrial average and 0.76C above the 1991-2020 average."

 

Hmmm.  Wonder how this compares to the 1930s and why that decade is never mentioned in these "record" temperatures as that decade was (in)famously hot.   The periods selected here seem to be "pre-industrial" (which I assume to be pre 1850) and 1991-2020.  Seems very selective to me.  Wonder why?  

 

Maybe you're an American so you think that the USA is the entire world?

And as far as US temperatures go...

"Many of the high temperature records set that year in the region still hold today, the National Weather Service reported. However, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration data shows that in the contiguous U.S., the first nine months of 2023 were 1.64°F warmer than January through September 1936.Nov 6, 2023

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/was-united-states-warmer-1936/#:~:text=Many of the high temperature,than January through September 1936.

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7 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Flat earthers believe the earth is flat despite the overwhelming evidence that the earth is not flat.  Those that are skeptical of "man made" global warming are skeptical due the underwhelming evidence that climate change is caused by human activities and isn't due to a great ball of fire that is 1.3 million times the size of earth, and struggle to understand how exporting emissions from the UK to India or China (at great expense) is somehow going to solve the problem.   

Changes due to solar activity are well understood but work on millennial timescales. The one exception is a correlation between the sun and temperature that works on a shorter time scale. Basically when the sun is more active on the surface, there's a positive correlation with average temperature rise on Earth. The thing is, until recently for the past several solar cycles, there was very low solar surface activity. So, if anything, that should have had a depressing effect on average temperatures. Despite which, they zoomed.

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8 hours ago, novacova said:

Yeah so what, the climate is changing, show uncorrelated non-presumptive proof that human activity is the cause. You can’t, because there is none. These silly grafts don’t show or prove anything along with the incoming links. 

Someone else who doesn't understand the significance of the rate of change.

[Yagoda]

Just now, placeholder said:

Someone else who doesn't understand the significance of the rate of change.

What was the rate of change between the year 1,000,000 BC and 1,000,322?

 

[Stargeezr]

Yesw, the earth is warming itself up. all those volcanoes, are heat from beneath the crust bringing up the

hotter mantel to heat up the oceans and atmosphere. Of course the Climate alarmists would like to blame

it all on us humans, and animals for farting, and expelling CO2, shich is almost a trace gas, methane is a trace gas see graph, and if you are in doubt goggle it yourself.

[WDSmart]

13 hours ago, susanlea said:

17 hours ago, WDSmart said:

We're already "over the cliff" on climate change. Read this short book... New tab (books2read.com)

Actually it is colder now than 20 years ago where I live. 

"Change" includes getting colder and getting hotter. "Climate change" means the climate of the entire Earth will change, not just where you live.

[susanlea]

7 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

"Change" includes getting colder and getting hotter. "Climate change" means the climate of the entire Earth will change, not just where you live.

Making it up. 

[susanlea]

10 hours ago, Yagoda said:

What was the rate of change between the year 1,000,000 BC and 1,000,322?

 

He made 8 posts in a row. High co2 output. 

[susanlea]

11 hours ago, novacova said:

Meanwhile the every one of all of us will wake up tomorrow and gleefully consume more products from the fossil industry without a shred of guilt, and this one will do it without being a hypocrite.

Exactly right. The funniest thing is guys who fly to Thailand and preach climate crisis. Thailand has loads of rubbish lying around and polluted skies.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Great point. I can't imagine why anyone would mention global warming in a thread with this title.

 

 

 

I don't care. He can fill his boots as long as he doesn't demand everyone else do something about it (personally I've never heard Tom Cruise talk about it). 

Mission Impossible wouldn't be the same with EVs and having to use an electric bicycle instead of motorbikes.

Cruise loves jet planes, the sort that use zillions of liters of fossil fuel every year.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Exactly right. The funniest thing is guys who fly to Thailand and preach climate crisis. Thailand has loads of rubbish lying around and polluted skies.

I doubt any of them arrived on a sailing ship. Is flying on a jet plane what we call an inconvenient truth?

[thaibeachlovers]

13 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Making it up. 

I'll bet not a single climate alarmist uses Climate Change in any way other than warming.

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'll bet not a single climate alarmist uses Climate Change in any way other than warming.

Not a scientist who fully understands climate. Not one.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Stargeezr said:

Yesw, the earth is warming itself up. all those volcanoes, are heat from beneath the crust bringing up the

hotter mantel to heat up the oceans and atmosphere. Of course the Climate alarmists would like to blame

it all on us humans, and animals for farting, and expelling CO2, shich is almost a trace gas, methane is a trace gas see graph, and if you are in doubt goggle it yourself.

Are you claiming that volcanoes have been emitting more heat over the past 50 years than previously? Got any evidene to support that? As for the rest of the nonsense you post, the warming effect of CO2 was first established by Foote and by the eminent physicist John Tindall in the 19th century. It's bizarre how unscientific some denialists objections are. In your case, CO2, methane. so minute in quantities, how could they have an effect?. In another. the sun is so big how could anything else have an effect.

Apparently, this is your idea of rational scientific evidence. It's not..