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[LudwigK]

An incident that has left travelers and officials alike upset

Poipet, Cambodia — A German citizen caused considerable unrest at the Thai-Cambodian border last week after he was refused entry into Thailand. 

The incident occurred at the border crossing at Poipet, a busy point for travelers carrying out so-called visa runs.

The Thai border police explain to the German that he has already left Thailand three times within a short period of time and is only allowed to enter one more time with a “visa on arrival”. 

In order to re-enter the country, the officials say, he now needs a regular tourist visa.

However, the German showed no understanding and reacted increasingly aggressively. Angry tirades in German and English escalated the situation, in which he accused the officials of only being interested in bribes and loudly demanded to know how much money he had to pay in order to be allowed to cross the border. 

The rowdy behavior caused a long line of waiting travelers to form behind him.

Two Thai officials finally intervene and carefully but firmly lead the German back to the Cambodian border police to clarify the situation. 

In a discussion between officials from both countries that was incomprehensible to the German, he was ultimately refused entry to Thailand again.

What followed was another outburst of anger from the German, now towards the Cambodian officials. 

He is demanding the immediate return of his passport with plans to travel to the Thai embassy in Phnom Penh to apply for a regular visa.

However, Cambodian officials made it clear that leaving Cambodia was only possible on the condition that he applied for a new visa in his home country. How the situation ended for the German affected remains uncertain. It is clear that aggressive and angry behavior at border crossings not only endangers your own journey, but can also cause unnecessary difficulties for all border staff and other travelers. This incident underlines the importance of carefully informing yourself about current visa requirements and regulations before traveling and respecting them in order to avoid such escalating situations.

 

 

 

https://www.wochenblitz.com/news/deutscher-beim-visa-run-nach-kambodscha-von-thailaendischen-grenzpolizisten-zurueckgewiesen

[Caldera]

Aranyaprathet / Poi Pet

 

Say no more!

[Tod Daniels]

I probably get 7 - 10 messages from people stranded at the Aranyaprathet/Poipet border per week
These are people who thought "they'd save money" and bounce themselves because "back in the day it was fine" only to find out, this isn't back in the day and you don't save any money when you get denied entry back into thailand after trying to bounce out and back. 

I had one couple in a rented car, drive to the Aranyaprathet/Poipet border, stamp out of thailand, stamp in and back out of cambodia and then get denied entry to thailand. They had their exit stamp to cambodia cancelled and were told to fly back. Meaning they had to slog all the way to Siem Reap, fly back to bangkok, THEN get back to Aranyaprathet to pick up their rental car in the parking lot and drive back 😮 This is just one example of how "bouncing yourself at Poipet" doesn't save you money and I have story after story from people 

What was really sad though is that even "real tourists" (as opposed to the people just milking 30 day free entry w/30 day extensions to live here) get caught at that border too. I think I related a young french couple came to thailand, toured around, went to cambodia, spent a MONTH in that country seeing the sights, then tried to cross back into thailand by land at Poi Pet so they could fly back to France the following week. They were denied entry 😕 Had to go back to Siem Reap and fly in <- that one really made me see that there's no rhyme or reason to that renegade border crossing at all  
 

[Tod Daniels]

43 minutes ago, LudwigK said:

https://www.wochenblitz.com/news/deutscher-beim-visa-run-nach-kambodscha-von-thailaendischen-grenzpolizisten-zurueckgewiesen

you wanna post that in engrish for the rest of the people or you just gonna leave it like that?
I couldn't get google translate to do it as that website has some blocker dealy

[Tod Daniels]

Here's what google said it was
Poipet, Cambodia — A German citizen caused considerable unrest at the Thai-Cambodian border last week after he was denied entry into Thailand.

The incident occurred at the border crossing at Poipet, a busy point for travelers making so-called “visa runs.”

The Thai border police explained to the German that he had already left Thailand three times within a short period of time and had only been allowed to enter once more with a “visa on arrival.” To re-enter, the officials said, he now needed a regular tourist visa.

However, the German showed no understanding and reacted increasingly aggressively. Angry tirades in German and English escalated the situation, in which he accused the officials of only being interested in bribes and loudly demanded to know how much money he would have to pay to be allowed to cross the border. The loud behavior led to a long line of waiting travelers forming behind him.

Two Thai officials finally intervened and carefully but firmly led the German back to the Cambodian border police to clarify the situation. In a discussion between the officials of both countries that was incomprehensible to the German, he was finally denied re-entry into Thailand. What followed was another outburst of anger from the German, this time towards the Cambodian officials. He demanded the immediate return of his passport with the plan to travel to the Thai embassy in Phnom Penh to apply for a regular visa.

The Cambodian officials made it clear, however, that leaving Cambodia was only possible on the condition that he applied for a new visa in his home country. Ezoic How the situation ended for the affected German remains uncertain.

What is clear, however, is that aggressive and agitated behavior at border crossings not only endangers one's own journey, but can also cause unnecessary difficulties for all border staff and other travelers. This incident underlines the importance of finding out about the current visa requirements and regulations before traveling and respecting them in order to avoid such escalating situations. Report courtesy of the Immigration Office

So to recap, some german who already bounced two times by land tried to do the "third time is a charm" at Poipet and was told he couldn't get in to thailand 😕 @LudwigK you could have just posted that in engrish 😞 

 

[Presnock]

16 hours ago, Tod Daniels said:

I probably get 7 - 10 messages from people stranded at the Aranyaprathet/Poipet border per week
These are people who thought "they'd save money" and bounce themselves because "back in the day it was fine" only to find out, this isn't back in the day and you don't save any money when you get denied entry back into thailand after trying to bounce out and back. 

I had one couple in a rented car, drive to the Aranyaprathet/Poipet border, stamp out of thailand, stamp in and back out of cambodia and then get denied entry to thailand. They had their exit stamp to cambodia cancelled and were told to fly back. Meaning they had to slog all the way to Siem Reap, fly back to bangkok, THEN get back to Aranyaprathet to pick up their rental car in the parking lot and drive back 😮 This is just one example of how "bouncing yourself at Poipet" doesn't save you money and I have story after story from people 

What was really sad though is that even "real tourists" (as opposed to the people just milking 30 day free entry w/30 day extensions to live here) get caught at that border too. I think I related a young french couple came to thailand, toured around, went to cambodia, spent a MONTH in that country seeing the sights, then tried to cross back into thailand by land at Poi Pet so they could fly back to France the following week. They were denied entry 😕 Had to go back to Siem Reap and fly in <- that one really made me see that there's no rhyme or reason to that renegade border crossing at all  
 

Yeah, back in the day as you said.  Free lunch at the casino while waitiing to get stamped and then back to Thailand.  Cheap (unless one gambled away and lost) at the casino but a good spread too.

[StayinThailand2much]

On 7/9/2024 at 1:30 PM, LudwigK said:

What followed was another outburst of anger from the German, now towards the Cambodian officials.

 

What a moron. What did they do? I found Cambodian officials always courteous and helpful.

[JoseThailand]

On 7/9/2024 at 2:52 PM, Tod Daniels said:

So to recap, some german who already bounced two times by land tried to do the "third time is a charm" at Poipet and was told he couldn't get in to thailand 😕 @LudwigK you could have just posted that in engrish 😞 

 

Well, in this case Poipet rightly denied him entry. Any other land border crossing would do the same. This is the official rule, no more than 2 land border visa exempt entries in a calendar year.

[GypsyT]

Jose, or who ever, knows this;

 

Is it possible to travel VIP bus from Jomtien to Laos border at Paksan and don't cross but stay in Thailand for a week or two and then return w same company to Jomtien? I want to meet somebody there.

I prefer small VIP lux bus rather than regular buses.

I pay extra, if needed.