Tommy Robinson Arrested in Kent Under Terrorism Act

[mokwit]

27 minutes ago, sungod said:

 Not to forget all the do gooders who welcome anyone at all with welcome arms, and the lawyers who make a fortune in fighting deportation of illegal immigrants.

Ah yes, the immigration industry, don't forget all those NGO workers on nice salary and benefits. No wonder they are so pro immigration.

[James105]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

Available from HMG website rape statistics for England and Wales...

 

HO Table 7: Number of persons arrested for notifiable sexual offences by ethnic group, year ending March 2012 to year ending March 20181,2
England and Wales							Numbers
Year	Persons
	White	Black (or Black British)	Asian (or Asian British)	Mixed	Chinese or Other	Not stated	Total
Apr '11 to Mar '12	25,708	3,209	3,145	743	659	558	34,022
Apr '12 to Mar '13	24,075	2,884	3,080	701	591	602	31,933
Apr '13 to Mar '14	25,243	2,964	3,375	753	643	802	33,780
Apr '14 to Mar '15	26,979	3,338	3,468	795	689	878	36,147
Apr '15 to Mar '16	27,300	3,281	3,223	847	719	1,989	37,359
Apr '16 to Mar '17	23,739	3,110	3,045	802	747	2,094	33,537
Apr '17 to Mar '18	22,637	2,952	2,853	777	653	1,921	31,793
Source: Arrests collection, Home Office
1. Arrests data are not designated as National Statistics.
2. All tables exclude Lancashire, who were unable to provide arrests data in the year ending March 2018. To ensure comparability over years, data for previous years also exclude arrests data from Lancashire, though these data can be found in the Open Data Tables.

 

So from your numbers in 2018 (for example) 71% of the rapes were committed by white people whilst the white population is 83%.  Is that the point you were trying to make here, that women are statistically safer with white people than other races?  

[mokwit]

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Available from HMG website rape statistics for England and Wales...

 

HO Table 7: Number of persons arrested for notifiable sexual offences by ethnic group, year ending March 2012 to year ending March 20181,2
England and Wales							Numbers
Year	Persons
	White	Black (or Black British)	Asian (or Asian British)	Mixed	Chinese or Other	Not stated	Total
Apr '11 to Mar '12	25,708	3,209	3,145	743	659	558	34,022
Apr '12 to Mar '13	24,075	2,884	3,080	701	591	602	31,933
Apr '13 to Mar '14	25,243	2,964	3,375	753	643	802	33,780
Apr '14 to Mar '15	26,979	3,338	3,468	795	689	878	36,147
Apr '15 to Mar '16	27,300	3,281	3,223	847	719	1,989	37,359
Apr '16 to Mar '17	23,739	3,110	3,045	802	747	2,094	33,537
Apr '17 to Mar '18	22,637	2,952	2,853	777	653	1,921	31,793
Source: Arrests collection, Home Office
1. Arrests data are not designated as National Statistics.
2. All tables exclude Lancashire, who were unable to provide arrests data in the year ending March 2018. To ensure comparability over years, data for previous years also exclude arrests data from Lancashire, though these data can be found in the Open Data Tables.

What matters here is not the absolute number but the number of rapes reported as a percentage of the population of the ethnic groups.

 

There are more white British so you could have more rapes in total but it could be lower as a percentage of that ethnic group vs others. The omission of Lancashire in this context is material and also rather suspicious in the context of grooming gangs.

 

We are discussing this in relation to grooming gangs so without figures for the percentage of Primarily Bangladeshi and Pakistani as % population vs % of rapes the figures do not mean much in isolation.

 

According to the 2021 United Kingdom census, there are 1,927,150 people of Indian/British Indian ethnicity (2.9%), 1,662,286 people of Pakistani /British Pakistani ethnicity (2.5%), 651,834 people of Bangladeshi/ British Bangladeshi ethnicity (1.0%), and an estimated further 700,000 from other South Asian heritage ...

 

So need to compare this with percentage of white British to get a realistic picture, or are you suggesting the absolute number proves something? If so then you clearly have no idea about data.

 

Maybe somebody might like to get the appropriate percent of population for each delineated ethnic group and crunch the numbers to get a percent of population figure which would  be representative where as the absolute number unadjusted for % of population is not, although I think the poster is unable to grasp this and presumably thinks the absolute number means something in isolation.

Edited August 1 by mokwit

[simple1]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

 

So from your numbers in 2018 (for example) 71% of the rapes were committed by white people whilst the white population is 83%.  Is that the point you were trying to make here, that women are statistically safer with white people than other races?  

 

Only pointing our that sexual offices are not the sole responsibility of non whites, which are by far exceeded by Whites Why does Robinson just focus on non whites? e.g.

 

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2022/01/11/tommy-robinson-is-a-hypocrite-when-it-comes-to-opposing-child-sexual-exploitation/

Edited August 1 by simple1

[simple1]

9 minutes ago, mokwit said:

What matters here is not the absolute number but the number of rapes reported as a percentage of the population of the ethnic groups.

 

There are more white British so you could have more rapes in total but it could be lower as a percentage of that ethnic group vs others. The omission of Lancashire in this context is material and also rather suspicious in the context of grooming gangs.

 

We are discussing this in relation to grooming gangs so without figures for the percentage of Primarily Bangladeshi and Pakistani as % population vs % of rapes the figures do not mean much in isolation.

 

According to the 2021 United Kingdom census, there are 1,927,150 people of Indian/British Indian ethnicity (2.9%), 1,662,286 people of Pakistani /British Pakistani ethnicity (2.5%), 651,834 people of Bangladeshi/ British Bangladeshi ethnicity (1.0%), and an estimated further 700,000 from other South Asian heritage ...

 

So need to compare this with percentage of white British to get a realistic picture, or are you suggesting the absolute number proves something? If so then you clearly have no idea about data.

 

Maybe somebody might like to get the appropriate percent of population for each delineated ethnic group and crunch the numbers to get a percent of population figure which would  be representative where as the absolute number unadjusted for % of population is not, although I think the poster is unable to grasp this and presumably thinks the absolute number means something in isolation.

 

You're missing my point. The guy just focus on non white crime. I think the correct term is 'dog whistle"

[josephbloggs]

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

What matters here is not the absolute number but the number of rapes reported as a percentage of the population of the ethnic groups.

 

There are more white British so you could have more rapes in total but it could be lower as a percentage of that ethnic group vs others. The omission of Lancashire in this context is material and also rather suspicious in the context of grooming gangs.

 

We are discussing this in relation to grooming gangs so without figures for the percentage of Primarily Bangladeshi and Pakistani as % population vs % of rapes the figures do not mean much in isolation.

 

According to the 2021 United Kingdom census, there are 1,927,150 people of Indian/British Indian ethnicity (2.9%), 1,662,286 people of Pakistani /British Pakistani ethnicity (2.5%), 651,834 people of Bangladeshi/ British Bangladeshi ethnicity (1.0%), and an estimated further 700,000 from other South Asian heritage ...

 

So need to compare this with percentage of white British to get a realistic picture, or are you suggesting the absolute number proves something? If so then you clearly have no idea about data.

Why does Yaxley-Lennon not speak out about white paedos? Why was he happy to have them in the EDL and not speak out? He didn't condemn a single one even after they were convicted of horrible crimes against minors including rape and grooming.  Leigh Mcmillan was a senior EDL leader under Yaxley-Lennon who was convicted of more than 100 counts of sexually abusing a ten year old girl. He was silent on that.  

Why did he support Richard Price even after his conviction for possession of child pornography and even campaigned for his release? After the was concvited!

In the world of Yaxley, white rapes and child abuse  = OK. Brown rapes and child abuse = bad.

Some of us just think all rapists are evil and deserve the same punishment. Not Yaxley though, hypocritical coward that he is. 

[mokwit]

14 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Only pointing our that sexual offices are not the sole responsibility of non whites, which are by far exceeded by Whites Why does Robinson just focus on non whites? e.g.

 

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2022/01/11/tommy-robinson-is-a-hypocrite-when-it-comes-to-opposing-child-sexual-exploitation/

 

9 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

You're missing my point. The guy just focus on non white crime. I think the correct term is 'dog whistle"

See my explanation in the post above as to why just looking at the absolute number is not represenatative, You seem to be unable to grasp this. Robinson focuses on organised CULTURAL grooming gangs which is almost exclusively a Bangladeshi and Pakistani thing with a tiny number of other ethnicities. The convictions prove this. The girls were being pimped around the communities. He does not talk about "black rapist" or "Chinese rapist" for example, presumably because it is not an organised CULTURAL thing. That is the reason.

 

It was BECAUSE it was an organised CULTURAL thing with two main voting groups that it was hushed up and covered up by politicians and councilors thinking of their votes for reelection at the expense of vulnerable young girls.

Edited August 1 by mokwit

[James105]

6 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Only pointing our that sexual offices are not the sole responsibility of non whites, which are by far exceeded by Whites Why does Robinson just focus on non whites? e.g.

 

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2022/01/11/tommy-robinson-is-a-hypocrite-when-it-comes-to-opposing-child-sexual-exploitation/

 

Probably because the authorities were turning a blind eye to the mass rape of children by predominantly asian heritage men.  Someone needed to call it out who was not part of those institutions or it would still be going on in the same volume today - he was one of those that did.  Do you have an example of where police have turned a blind eye for this in the same way for white people or are you just using a false equivalence here?  

[Chomper Higgot]

34 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Probably because the authorities were turning a blind eye to the mass rape of children by predominantly asian heritage men.  Someone needed to call it out who was not part of those institutions or it would still be going on in the same volume today - he was one of those that did.  Do you have an example of where police have turned a blind eye for this in the same way for white people or are you just using a false equivalence here?  

It was called out by others, Yaxley-Lennon simply jumped on the bandwagon, and endangered a criminal trial of child abusers with his self serving publicity stunts.

 

 

[mokwit]

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It was called out by others, Yaxley-Lennon simply jumped on the bandwagon, and endangered a criminal trial of child abusers with his self serving publicity stunts.

 

 

I think the point here is that it WASN'T called out by those whose JOB it was to do something about it. Worse it was actually covered up for political reasons Labour politicians and coucilors. We had a Pakistani heritage Labour politician [Zarah Sultana] retweeting a tweet that said "these girls should keep their mouths shut for the sake of diversity". That retweet has to be taken as an endorsement of the view expressed.

[James105]

51 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It was called out by others, Yaxley-Lennon simply jumped on the bandwagon, and endangered a criminal trial of child abusers with his self serving publicity stunts.

 

When it comes to the mass organised rape of children, I am of the opinion that the more people that call it out the more likely something will be done about it.  One single voice wasn't enough, as clearly nothing was done for far too long.  He had an audience and helped get the message out.  If his voice being added to the mix even prevented just 1 more rape of a child from happening I would say it was worth it - wouldn't you? 

 

You can use "endanged a criminal trial" all you want but as we all know for a fact it didn't do anything of the sort that phrase is particularly meaningless and vacuous.  

[Chomper Higgot]

36 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

When it comes to the mass organised rape of children, I am of the opinion that the more people that call it out the more likely something will be done about it.  One single voice wasn't enough, as clearly nothing was done for far too long.  He had an audience and helped get the message out.  If his voice being added to the mix even prevented just 1 more rape of a child from happening I would say it was worth it - wouldn't you? 

 

You can use "endanged a criminal trial" all you want but as we all know for a fact it didn't do anything of the sort that phrase is particularly meaningless and vacuous.  

It was already being dealt with before Yaxley-Lennon commenced his theatrics.

 

Yaxley Lennon endangerment of the trial was averted by the Judge holding him in contempt of court and ordering his arrest.

 

The rest is a matter of criminal record.

 

 

 

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It was already being dealt with before Yaxley-Lennon commenced his theatrics.

 

Yaxley Lennon endangerment of the trial was averted by the Judge holding him in contempt of court and ordering his arrest.

 

The rest is a matter of criminal record.

 

 

 

 

Interesting that you support male rapists rights to be called she/her and reside in female prisons yet do not respect Mr Robinson's right to be called Mr Robinson. 

 

Which suggests you identify more with the former than the latter. 

[cdnvic]

An over the top personal attack and replies to it were removed.

[simple1]

15 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Probably because the authorities were turning a blind eye to the mass rape of children by predominantly asian heritage men.  Someone needed to call it out who was not part of those institutions or it would still be going on in the same volume today - he was one of those that did.  Do you have an example of where police have turned a blind eye for this in the same way for white people or are you just using a false equivalence here?  

 

You will find the grooming for sexual abuse of children was being investigated prior to Yaxley Lennon's involvement; not forgetting grooming of children is also a crime committed by whites. Yaxley Lennon manipulates these crimes as red meat for his followers. So far as I know Yaxley Lennon's efforts has not resulted in a single conviction and highly likely a pain in the neck for law enforcement / investigation by way of diverting critical resources.

[James105]

32 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

You will find the grooming for sexual abuse of children was being investigated prior to Yaxley Lennon's involvement; not forgetting grooming of children is also a crime committed by whites. Yaxley Lennon manipulates these crimes as red meat for his followers. So far as I know Yaxley Lennon's efforts has not resulted in a single conviction and highly likely a pain in the neck for law enforcement / investigation by way of diverting critical resources.

 

For over a decade the authorities turned a blind eye to the mass organised rape of children.   For over a decade.   Their default position was to ignore it.  The media (mostly) ignored it.   The police and government were not disposed to act until this was raised by multiple voices.  This cowardice is still present in the police, the media and the government and if anything it is much worse than it was.  It's essential that those with a voice and an audience continue to keep the pressure on so these cowards cannot just stick their heads in the sand again pretending everything is fine. 

 

Denmark (leftist government) have gone some way to solving the problem with their own versions of Tommy Robinson.  Do you know what radical steps they took?  They listened to their genuine concerns and acted on them instead of persecuting them for saying it.  

[Chomper Higgot]

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Interesting that you support male rapists rights to be called she/her and reside in female prisons yet do not respect Mr Robinson's right to be called Mr Robinson. 

 

Which suggests you identify more with the former than the latter. 

The usual gutter slur from the usual source.

[mokwit]

32 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The usual gutter slur from the usual source.

That's rich coming from you, yourself the usual source of a slur. That and posting links seems to be all you and your fellow AN Politicos can do. Lets' call it the "Slur and link" tactic - used to avoid actually engaging and making counter arguments.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, mokwit said:

That's rich coming from you, yourself the usual source of a slur. That and posting links seems to be all you and your fellow AN Politicos can do. Lets' call it the "Slur and link" tactic - used to avoid actually engaging and making counter arguments.

Objecting to me calling out a personal attack with a personal attack.

 

Well done.

[mokwit]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Objecting to me calling out a personal attack with a personal attack.

 

Well done.

I just pointed out the reality how you are/how you operate, hardly an attack.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, mokwit said:

I just pointed out the reality how you are/how you operate, hardly an attack.

Opinions differ.

[Chomper Higgot]

Yaxley-Lennon must be gutted.

 

Having gone on the lam he’s missing out on attending the riots with his EDL racist chums, and the opportunity to join them in attacking an entirely innocent community.

 

 

[mokwit]

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yaxley-Lennon must be gutted.

 

Having gone on the lam he’s missing out on attending the riots with his EDL racist chums, and the opportunity to join them in attacking an entirely innocent community.

 

 

What about people attacking entirely innocent children? Any comment for us on that one? How about the other riots, I am sure not mentioning them is an oversight on your part that you will be remedying, or are you going to do a ""TwotierKier" as he has now been Christened.

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, mokwit said:

What about people attacking entirely innocent children? Any comment for us on that one? How about the other riots, I am sure not mentioning them is an oversight on your part that you will be remedying, or are you going to do a ""TwotierKier" as he has now been Christened.

I fully support the police and justice system pursuing, prosecuting and imprisoning anyone who attacks or abuses children.

 

The tougher the sentencing the better.

 

I hope that clears up your odd concern.

 

Other riots, I believe they are discussed in other threads.