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13 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Current state of play............

1. Hezbollah says Lebanon truce depends on Gaza.

2. A Gaza truce depends on a hostage release.

3. A hostage release depends on Hamas.

4. Hamas tunnel rat refuses to talk 

5.The Iranian regime controls Hezbollah.

6. Rinse - Repeat.

 

Hezbollah signals Lebanon truce depends on Gaza, says it aims to cause Israel pain

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hezbollah-relinks-lebanon-truce-to-gaza-says-new-tactics-aim-to-inflict-pain-on-israel/

 

Rinse - Repeat until:  

There are many reports but currently being verified. 

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1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

13 years to the day  since Sinwar was released from an Israeli jail, he was released from Israeli jail for an exchange with hostages .

   Sinwar was jailed in Israel for killing four people 

Was he not the guy whose life was saved by Jewish doctors when he was in prison?

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39 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Was he not the guy whose life was saved by Jewish doctors when he was in prison?

 

  Yes , Sinwar had a brain abscess whilst in Israel jail for murdering four people .

    Israeli doctors operated on him and saved his life .

Sinwar then was released in a prisoner exchange and then went on to organise the Oct 7 th terror attack on Israel .

   The Isreali Doctor who diagnosed Sinwars brain tumour  and saved his life , his nephew was killed in the Oct 7 attack 

 

 

He saved the life of Hamas’s leader. Then they murdered his nephew

 

 

Bitton spent years working as a dentist in Israel’s Nafha Prison. It was there he met “the person” – "Yahya Sinwar, a Hamas militant convicted of murder who would go on to become the group’s leader in Gaza – saying he saved his life by helping diagnose a brain tumor."

 

"Bitton said his nephew, Tamir, was “seriously injured” trying to fight off the attackers.

“There were only five of them, they didn’t really stand a chance, and he was kidnapped while he was still seriously injured, unconscious, and died after a few hours in Gaza.”

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/20/middleeast/israeli-dentist-hamas-yahya-sinwar-intl/index.html

 

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6 hours ago, rabas said:

 

Confirmation is coming quickly. If not enough, soldiers took close up images of his face and exposed teeth that leave little doubt. 

 

 

 

Despite the witterings from israel and the White House it will make no difference. Netanyahu has reportedly said he will continue the assault on Gaza, the Biden administration will IMO do whatever netanyahu wants, a new leader for Hamas will be elected, israel will still be fighting on at least 2 fronts, world opinion will continue turning against israel, and the hostages will remain in Gaza, alive or dead.

 

As long as israel continues to kill women and children by the thousand, Hamas, or one of the other resistance groups will have an endless supply of recruits seeking revenge on all israelis.

In Lebanon, israel is acting as a recruiting agent for Hezbollah.

This battle may end sooner or later, but the war against israel will continue.

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2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 Netanyahu has reportedly said he will continue the assault on Gaza,

 

    That isnt true , Netanyahu stated that  , well read it yourself 

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/pm-after-sinwar-killing-those-holding-hostages-will-be-spared-if-they-lay-down-arms-release-them/

 

 

 

"He says that anyone holding hostages will be allowed to live if they lay down their weapons and release their captives.

“And at the same time I say, whoever harms our hostages, his blood will be on his head,” says Netanyahu. ” We will come to a reckoning with him.”

Netanyahu says freeing the hostages brings the end of the war closer."

 

 

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16 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Despite the witterings from israel and the White House it will make no difference. Netanyahu has reportedly said he will continue the assault on Gaza, the Biden administration will IMO do whatever netanyahu wants, a new leader for Hamas will be elected, israel will still be fighting on at least 2 fronts, world opinion will continue turning against israel, and the hostages will remain in Gaza, alive or dead.

 

As long as israel continues to kill women and children by the thousand, Hamas, or one of the other resistance groups will have an endless supply of recruits seeking revenge on all israelis.

In Lebanon, israel is acting as a recruiting agent for Hezbollah.

This battle may end sooner or later, but the war against israel will continue.

Hamas is decapitated and gutted.

Two generations of Hezbolla leadership are dead with their core network in shambles.

The Houthis just experienced Stealth bombers and bunker bombs.

Iranian backed Sudanese forces are watching and questioning what RG support buys over time.

Iran looks inept.

Israeli forces demonstrated their capacity to ensure regional peace.

Time for the Saudis to sign the security agreement with Israel that October 7th was meant to prevent. They can fund and manage the building of a peaceful Gaza and Southern Lebanon.

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Despite the witterings from israel and the White House it will make no difference. Netanyahu has reportedly said he will continue the assault on Gaza, the Biden administration will IMO do whatever netanyahu wants, a new leader for Hamas will be elected, israel will still be fighting on at least 2 fronts, world opinion will continue turning against israel, and the hostages will remain in Gaza, alive or dead.

 

As long as israel continues to kill women and children by the thousand, Hamas, or one of the other resistance groups will have an endless supply of recruits seeking revenge on all israelis.

In Lebanon, israel is acting as a recruiting agent for Hezbollah.

This battle may end sooner or later, but the war against israel will continue.

Despite the witterings from israel and the White House it will make no difference. 

 

You sound disappointed....

 

It makes a lot of difference, the rat is dead, he was forced from his tunnel and eliminated by tank fire, he died as he lived, like a rat hiding behind the Gaza civilians, women and children that you always talk about. Of course it will not stop, there are still terrorists there holding hostages, something you obviously have no thought about.

 

Here's one of them still alive having been abused while in captivity.

 

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I like some of his attributes and hate others, but Elon for the most part nails it for me in his speech here on the situation in in the Middle East but particularly Israel and Gaza:

 

And they want to kill Americans too by the way. Israel is referred to as The Little Satan and the USA is The Big Satan. That’s what the Ayatollah calls us,” says @elonmusk in a powerful speech about his stance on Israel.

 

 

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UPDATE: 

US Investigates Leak of Classified Intel on Israel’s Plans to Strike Iran

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The U.S. government is investigating a significant leak of highly classified intelligence regarding Israel's planned retaliation against Iran, according to three sources familiar with the situation. One of the sources confirmed the authenticity of the documents involved.

 

The leak has raised serious concerns within the U.S. government. "The leak is deeply concerning," a U.S. official told CNN. The documents, which are dated October 15 and 16, began circulating online last Friday after being posted on a Telegram channel called “Middle East Spectator.”

 

Marked as top secret, these documents were intended to be viewed only by the U.S. and its “Five Eyes” intelligence-sharing allies—Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom. The documents outline apparent Israeli preparations for a military strike against Iran. One of the leaked reports, attributed to the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, discusses the movement of munitions by Israel. Another document, sourced to the National Security Agency, details Israeli air force exercises involving air-to-surface missiles, which are believed to be in preparation for a strike on Iran.

 

CNN has chosen not to quote or display the documents directly. A U.S. official has confirmed that the investigation is now focused on identifying who had access to the alleged Pentagon document. Any leak of this nature automatically triggers an FBI investigation, in coordination with the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies. The FBI declined to provide any comment on the matter.

 

The timing of the leak comes at a particularly delicate moment in U.S.-Israeli relations. Israel has been preparing to launch a retaliatory strike on Iran following a missile barrage by Iran on October 1. This leak is likely to infuriate Israeli officials, who have been tight-lipped about their military plans.

One of the leaked documents also touches on a topic Israel has consistently refused to confirm publicly: its possession of nuclear weapons. The document states that the U.S. has not detected any indication that Israel intends to use nuclear weapons against Iran.

 

“If it is true that Israeli tactical plans to respond to Iran’s attack on October 1 have been leaked, it is a serious breach,” said Mick Mulroy, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for the Middle East and a retired CIA officer. Mulroy emphasized that the leak could have far-reaching implications for U.S.-Israeli cooperation. “The future coordination between the U.S. and Israel could be challenged as well. Trust is a key component in the relationship, and depending on how this was leaked, that trust could be eroded.”

 

This is not the first time a leak of U.S. intelligence has caused tensions with allies. A major leak of classified documents last year strained relations between the U.S. and several key partners, including South Korea and Ukraine.

 

Based on a report from CNN 2024-10-20

 

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42 minutes ago, Social Media said:

UPDATE: 

US Investigates Leak of Classified Intel on Israel’s Plans to Strike Iran

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The U.S. government is investigating a significant leak of highly classified intelligence regarding Israel's planned retaliation against Iran, according to three sources familiar with the situation. One of the sources confirmed the authenticity of the documents involved.

 

The leak has raised serious concerns within the U.S. government. "The leak is deeply concerning," a U.S. official told CNN. The documents, which are dated October 15 and 16, began circulating online last Friday after being posted on a Telegram channel called “Middle East Spectator.”

 

Marked as top secret, these documents were intended to be viewed only by the U.S. and its “Five Eyes” intelligence-sharing allies—Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom. The documents outline apparent Israeli preparations for a military strike against Iran. One of the leaked reports, attributed to the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, discusses the movement of munitions by Israel. Another document, sourced to the National Security Agency, details Israeli air force exercises involving air-to-surface missiles, which are believed to be in preparation for a strike on Iran.

 

CNN has chosen not to quote or display the documents directly. A U.S. official has confirmed that the investigation is now focused on identifying who had access to the alleged Pentagon document. Any leak of this nature automatically triggers an FBI investigation, in coordination with the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies. The FBI declined to provide any comment on the matter.

 

The timing of the leak comes at a particularly delicate moment in U.S.-Israeli relations. Israel has been preparing to launch a retaliatory strike on Iran following a missile barrage by Iran on October 1. This leak is likely to infuriate Israeli officials, who have been tight-lipped about their military plans.

One of the leaked documents also touches on a topic Israel has consistently refused to confirm publicly: its possession of nuclear weapons. The document states that the U.S. has not detected any indication that Israel intends to use nuclear weapons against Iran.

 

“If it is true that Israeli tactical plans to respond to Iran’s attack on October 1 have been leaked, it is a serious breach,” said Mick Mulroy, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for the Middle East and a retired CIA officer. Mulroy emphasized that the leak could have far-reaching implications for U.S.-Israeli cooperation. “The future coordination between the U.S. and Israel could be challenged as well. Trust is a key component in the relationship, and depending on how this was leaked, that trust could be eroded.”

 

This is not the first time a leak of U.S. intelligence has caused tensions with allies. A major leak of classified documents last year strained relations between the U.S. and several key partners, including South Korea and Ukraine.

 

Based on a report from CNN 2024-10-20

 

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Not surprising that people appalled at israel's actions in Gaza, West Bank and Lebanon are trying to sabotage the preparations for what could become WW3.

Some of the people in the administration and US government agencies are likely as angry about what is happening as any of us not on board with israeli actions, and leaks are the only way they have of upsetting the apple cart.

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Apparently no one has grasped the significance of it to comment, but the fact that Hezbollah has the ability to fly a drone into israel and hit the PM's house is very important. Not only has the massive bombing campaign against Lebanon not reduced Hezbollah's ability to launch air attacks against israel, but the Iron Dome was unable to destroy it before it hit it's target.

So much for israel's campaign in Lebanon so far.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/19/drone-hits-netanyahus-home-as-hezbollah-rockets-target-northern-israel

Israel has launched several air attacks on Beirut’s southern suburbs after the Lebanese armed group Hezbollah fired volleys of rockets at northern Israel with one drone targeting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu‘s holiday home.

Netanyahu’s spokesman said one of three drones launched from Lebanon hit Netanyahu’s residence in the town of Caesarea on Saturday, adding that he was not in the vicinity and there were no casualties.

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22 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Apparently no one has grasped the significance of it to comment, but the fact that Hezbollah has the ability to fly a drone into israel and hit the PM's house is very important. Not only has the massive bombing campaign against Lebanon not reduced Hezbollah's ability to launch air attacks against israel, but the Iron Dome was unable to destroy it before it hit it's target.

So much for israel's campaign in Lebanon so far.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/19/drone-hits-netanyahus-home-as-hezbollah-rockets-target-northern-israel

Israel has launched several air attacks on Beirut’s southern suburbs after the Lebanese armed group Hezbollah fired volleys of rockets at northern Israel with one drone targeting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu‘s holiday home.

Netanyahu’s spokesman said one of three drones launched from Lebanon hit Netanyahu’s residence in the town of Caesarea on Saturday, adding that he was not in the vicinity and there were no casualties.

 

   If they keep attacking Israel, there will be a severe response .

  Like a 3 day attack on Israel killing 1200 Israelis resulted in the 1 year destruction of Gaza and 45 000 dead and Hamas wiped out .

  Drone attacks from Hezbollah will just see more  Lebanese villages wiped out 

  

 

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