Israel Hamas War the Widening Middle East Conflict

[Bkk Brian]

HUMANITY WILL NEVER FORGET

https://x.com/NoaMagid/status/1872827954952327675

 

[Evil Penevil]

22 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

HUMANITY WILL NEVER FORGET

 Humanity may never forget, but some of the pro-Palestinian posters in this thread have short memories indeed.

[bannork]

WHO chief calls for Israel to cease its attacks on Gaza hospitals.

https://bsky.app/profile/euractiv.com/post/3lej2xauuky25

[Bkk Brian]

16 minutes ago, bannork said:

WHO chief calls for Israel to cease its attacks on Gaza hospitals.

https://bsky.app/profile/euractiv.com/post/3lej2xauuky25

Back to reality not what Hamas says

 

19 terrorists dead, Hamas claimed 50 people dead...........

 

IDF: 19 terrorists, no known civilians, killed in Gaza hospital raid; Hamas said 50 dead
Israel says 240 suspects arrested at Kamal Adwan hospital — including its director and 15 participants in Oct. 7 onslaught; 600 civilians evacuated; IDF wraps up Jabalia operation.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-19-terrorists-no-known-civilians-killed-in-gaza-hospital-raid-hamas-said-50-dead/

[bannork]

"WHO chief calls for end to IDF raids and strikes on Gaza hospitals | The Times of Israel" https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/who-chief-calls-for-end-to-idf-raids-and-strikes-on-gaza-hospitals/

[Bkk Brian]

45 minutes ago, bannork said:

"WHO chief calls for end to IDF raids and strikes on Gaza hospitals | The Times of Israel" https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/who-chief-calls-for-end-to-idf-raids-and-strikes-on-gaza-hospitals/

 

I can only assume that posting the same WHO quote means your desperate and have nothing else to add?

 

Tell him to stop Hamas taking over the hospitals and the IDF will then be more than happy to not disturb them. Quite simple really. 

 

https://x.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1873098153618227263

 

[bannork]

Babies dying from the cold in Gaza tents.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0ep0j83p7o

 

[Patong2021]

On 12/26/2024 at 7:41 AM, bannork said:

5 Palestinian journalists killed by Israel

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yg57wrgl7o

Calling yourself a jounalist doesn't amke  you a journalist.

They were propagandists working on behalf of Hamas.

[Patong2021]

19 hours ago, bannork said:

"WHO chief calls for end to IDF raids and strikes on Gaza hospitals | The Times of Israel" https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/who-chief-calls-for-end-to-idf-raids-and-strikes-on-gaza-hospitals/

 

Let me know when the WHO chief calls for Hamas to stop using hospitals  as command and control centers and as munitions depots.

[bannork]

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Let me know when the WHO chief calls for Hamas to stop using hospitals  as command and control centers and as munitions depots.

Let me know when Israel lets international journalists in to verify its claims regarding Hamas.

IDF has no credibility when no one is allowed to actually check its claims.

[Bkk Brian]

6 hours ago, bannork said:

Babies dying from the cold in Gaza tents.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0ep0j83p7o

 

From your link:

 

Nasser hospital in Khan Younis, where Dr Ahmad al-Farra, the director of its paediatric department, said she had suffered from "severe hypothermia, leading to the cessation of vital signs, cardiac arrest, and eventually death".

 

Some more on the ever so trusted Nasser hospital...........30 hostages were held there.

 

Released hostage Sharon Alony Cunio said Hamas terrorists held her and nearly 30 other hostages on the first floor of the Nasser hospital, where she was told to sleep beside her three-year-old twins “on a small bed, using a bloodstained pillow,”

https://www.the10-7project.com/2024/02/16/icymi-evidence-shows-hamas-operates-from-the-nasser-hospital/

 

Have you ever thought why there were no reports of babies dying of the cold this time last year in Gaza?

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

Let me know when Israel lets international journalists in to verify its claims regarding Hamas.

IDF has no credibility when no one is allowed to actually check its claims.

Let me know when you believe the IDF over the terrorists

[bannork]

https://www.rfi.fr/en/middle-east/20241231-gaza-healthcare-nearing-total-collapse-due-to-israeli-strikes-un

A long list of Israeli attacks resulting in the destruction of Gaza hospitals, with only vague Israeli claims of Hamas military activity at said hospitals .

None of which could be verified by the international community.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

https://www.rfi.fr/en/middle-east/20241231-gaza-healthcare-nearing-total-collapse-due-to-israeli-strikes-un

A long list of Israeli attacks resulting in the destruction of Gaza hospitals, with only vague Israeli claims of Hamas military activity at said hospitals .

None of which could be verified by the international community.

There's evidence 2 posts up from this........lol

 

Mountain of indisputable evidence of Hamas using hospitals as their protection and for holding hostages including by the hostages themselves!

 

Hamas Used Gaza Hospital as a Command Center, U.S. Intelligence Says

U.S. spy agencies believe that Hamas and another Palestinian group fighting Israel used Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza to command forces and hold some hostages, according to new American intelligence declassified on Tuesday.

The hospital was the focus of a large Israel Defense Forces effort in November to take control of the facility, an operation that came under intense international scrutiny and criticism.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html

https://archive.ph/XHj2C

 

Click on the separate links on this site for more.

 

From inpatient wards to the hospital basements: This is how Hamas turned Gaza hospitals into terror centers

 

https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/hamas-operations-in-hospitals/

 

Then again the UN had Hamas bases under their own H/Q in Gaza (UNRWA) and they denied knowing about it. Figure that out.

 

[Evil Penevil]

@bannork  What is it you dispute about the evidence which the IDF provided in the links in the post by @Bkk Brian?  Why don't you find the graphic evidence in the various links to be credible?

 

36 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

From inpatient wards to the hospital basements: This is how Hamas turned Gaza hospitals into terror centers

 

https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/hamas-operations-in-hospitals/

 

Then again the UN had Hamas bases under their own H/Q in Gaza (UNRWA) and they denied knowing about it. Figure that out.

 

 

 

[bannork]

Israel finally admits holding Gaza doctor after first claiming to have no knowledge of his arrest.

 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj30deeggd7o

[Bkk Brian]

15 minutes ago, bannork said:

Israel finally admits holding Gaza doctor after first claiming to have no knowledge of his arrest.

 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj30deeggd7o

You mean this terrorist who is a doctor of what is also a military hospital as well as civilian.................

 

 

 

"You won’t arrest me; I’m well-known globally, and everyone knows me. I’m a symbol."

Not only is Dr. Hussam Abu Safiya a Hamas Colonel—he's also an arrogant ass. 

Read this excerpt from a big new 
@N12News
 article, based on an interview with officers from Israel's elite Unit 504:

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The depth of the connection between terrorism and the hospital begins with its very name: Kamal Adwan was a Fatah operative responsible for attacks in Nahariya and the Carmel Market before being eliminated by the IDF during Operation "Spring of Youth" in Lebanon in 1973. When the forces raided the hospital and began questioning the operatives, it was revealed that the hospital director himself, Dr. Husam Abu Safiya, was fully involved in Hamas's terrorist activities. Currently, there is an international campaign calling for the doctor's release, as he gained prominence through media interviews worldwide during the war. In Israel, there are also voices calling for his detention to be canceled.

"During the raid, the hospital director, Dr. Husam Abu Safiya, was strutting around like a peacock," describes Lt. (Res.) D., a field investigator with Unit 504. "He was convinced he wouldn't be arrested and believed he was untouchable, orchestrating the entire scene. I interrogated one terrorist after another, and they all shouted his name and begged for him to come and see them, to help them. We understood that at the heart of the incident, the one orchestrating the terrorism and Hamas activity at the site, was the hospital director himself. The world must understand that there is a clear and direct collaboration between the medical staff and the senior leadership of the terror organization: they cynically exploit our desire not to harm the helpless and use the medical platform to establish a terrorist base."

"We had indications that the hospital director was, in fact, a senior Hamas figure, but it took time before we received final approval to arrest him," emphasizes Master Sgt. (Res.) A. According to intelligence gathered, the hospital cooperated with the terror organization and provided shelter for terrorists.

"The hospital director indeed strutted around like a peacock, and at first, we allowed him to do so," confirms Sgt. Maj. (Res.) G., one of Unit 504’s investigators present during the raid. G. is a commander and a fighter in the naval commando unit (Shayetet 13) and has been serving in the reserves since the start of the war. He fought in the battle for the Sderot police station and, as a civilian, assisted the YAMAM in rescuing officers. "Dr. Abu Safiya watched as his doctors were incriminated one by one. He thought he wouldn’t be arrested. We understood that it was all a disguise—they were terrorists with blood on their hands. The hospital director realized the facade had completely melted away, and in the end, he was also arrested," he notes.

G. recalls, "During the interrogation, I confronted him: 'How is it that doctors around the world swear the Hippocratic oath, yet in Gaza, the medical field serves as a cover for terrorist bases?' In response, the hospital director feigned innocence and arrogantly told me, 'You won’t arrest me; I’m well-known globally, and everyone knows me. I’m a symbol.’ He thinks he’s a symbol, but we understand he’s a symbol of terrorism."

https://x.com/EFischberger/status/1875128128885882971

 

[Bkk Brian]

18 minutes ago, bannork said:

Israel finally admits holding Gaza doctor after first claiming to have no knowledge of his arrest.

 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj30deeggd7o

Strange because on the 29th Dec Israel announced they had already arrested him. Its now clear you don't read previous posts, head in sand..........

 

On 12/30/2024 at 4:14 PM, Bkk Brian said:

 

I can only assume that posting the same WHO quote means your desperate and have nothing else to add?

 

Tell him to stop Hamas taking over the hospitals and the IDF will then be more than happy to not disturb them. Quite simple really. 

 

https://x.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1873098153618227263

 

 

[bannork]

 

Gaza death toll has been significantly underreported, study finds | CNN https://search.app/9LNF7LP4FSocpeWd9

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, bannork said:

 

Gaza death toll has been significantly underreported, study finds | CNN https://search.app/9LNF7LP4FSocpeWd9

From your link. Yea, from Hamas figures and then estimates........

 

"Researchers analyzed data from multiple sources, including the health ministry’s hospital morgue records, a respondent-driven online survey and obituaries on social media.

They arrived at estimated figures using a statistical method known as ‘capture-recapture analysis,’ which is used when not all of the relevant data is recorded."

 

From the actual study, as you can see, all Hamas sourced data:

 

"We used a three-list capture–recapture analysis using data from Palestinian Ministry of Health (MoH) hospital lists, an MoH online survey, and social media obituaries. After imputing missing values, we fitted alternative generalised linear models to the three lists' overlap structure, with each model representing different possible dependencies among lists and including covariates predictive of the probability of being listed; we averaged the models to estimate the true number of deaths"

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)02678-3/fulltext

 

 

 

[bannork]

Israeli soldiers recoiling against its own army's actions in Gaza

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/some-israeli-soldiers-refuse-to-keep-fighting-in-gaza/ar-BB1rnCPK?ocid=socialshare&pc=ACTS&cvid=6733ca268469464e9a34973d68578f1c&ei=31

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

Israeli soldiers recoiling against its own army's actions in Gaza

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/some-israeli-soldiers-refuse-to-keep-fighting-in-gaza/ar-BB1rnCPK?ocid=socialshare&pc=ACTS&cvid=6733ca268469464e9a34973d68578f1c&ei=31

A ceasefire and hostage release is nearly on the cards and you think a few IDF refusing to fight is important. Not heard of a war yet where's that's not happened. Any news on Hamas, the actual terrorists or is it just the IDF you're quick to criticize?