Trump is getting torched in the polls

[FriscoKid]

Uh-oh, he's getting crushed in the polls by every matrix. Now it's the economy, according to a just released Financial Times poll. Always losing. What a pity.

 

 

[FriscoKid]

Here is the FT poll article:

 

"Kamala Harris is more trusted than Donald Trump on the US economy"

 

https://archive.ph/ZcfbY

 

https://www.ft.com/content/cf9a7c4d-3b82-4867-892c-f4f95daebbc7

 

Edited August 11 by FriscoKid

[shdmn]

Looking forward to the convicted felon and world's biggest loser whine again how the election was stolen.

Edited August 11 by shdmn

[Patong2021]

One would be  foolish to become over excited at the polling data. Yes, it it is good news for the Democrats as it suggests that Democrats are firming up their support and retaining the coalition who elected Biden. That's all. There is no overwhelming movement to Harris and no epiphany amongst Trump supporters. The core Trump voters will not change their votes. Trump will continue to poll 43.5% to 44.5% and  Harris will poll 44.5% to 45.5% until election day, unless there is a critical event.  The goal for the Democrats is that they must get their supporters to vote in the swing states.   Absolute numbers mean nothing because Trump has absolute majority in some states, just as Harris has absolute majorities in other states.

 

Get excited when the Harris poll lead exceeds 4%, otherwise it will remain a  nail biter until the bitter end.

Edited August 11 by Patong2021

[shdmn]

16 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

One would be  foolish to become over excited at the polling data. Yes, it it is good news for the Democrats as it suggests that Democrats are firming up their support and retaining the coalition who elected Biden. That's all. There is no overwhelming movement to Harris and no epiphany amongst Trump supporters. The core Trump voters will not change their votes. Trump will continue to poll 43.5% to 44.5% and  Harris will poll 44.5% to 45.5% until election day, unless there is a critical event.  The goal for the Democrats is that they must get their supporters to vote in the swing states.   Absolute numbers mean nothing because Trump has absolute majority in some states, just as Harris has absolute majorities in other states.

 

Get excited when the Harris poll lead exceeds 4%, otherwise it will remain a  nail biter until the bitter end.

 

The polls are largely meaningless.  They are almost always designed to make it seem like a close horserace because that is what the media wants.  Nobody would care if the polls said one side was running away with it, although that seems to be the narrative the media wants for the time being.  It won't last.  I have no illusions about that.

Edited August 11 by shdmn

[it is what it is]

 

the only poll that matters in the one on election day. however, i do feel, on balance, it's Kamala's to lose

[FriscoKid]

44 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Get excited when the Harris poll lead exceeds 4%

She's already leading by 6% in a very reliable nationwide poll that just came out Friday. Harris is at 53% and Trump is at 47%:

 

 

 

[save the frogs]

I have been predicting since the start that the shortest midget in the circus would win this.

 

[FriscoKid]

57 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I have been predicting since the start that the shortest midget in the circus would win this.

 

Wow, how incredible. A midget wizard. We will call you Carnac the Magnificent from now on. 

[bendejo]

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I have been predicting since the start that the shortest midget in the circus would win this.

 

 

Are you endorsing George Stephanopoulos?

 

[bamnutsak]

Sorry, but this is not the president of the seventh grade, or any other election that is based on a popular vote.

 

The Electoral College bias still favors Trump.

 

And polls are worthless/useless.

 

We're still in the "Getting-to-know-You" phase.

 

FWIW I subscribe to and watch the Pondering Politics YT channel.

 

A "shock" poll from the Financial Times portraying doom and gloom for Trump strikes me as "thirsty", more than accurate.

 

 

[retarius]

Many US polls are faked and paid for by the parties themselves. BUT Trump looks like he is going through the motions and has given up. He will be further behind after the Dem conference later this month.

[Danderman123]

13 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

One would be  foolish to become over excited at the polling data. Yes, it it is good news for the Democrats as it suggests that Democrats are firming up their support and retaining the coalition who elected Biden. That's all. There is no overwhelming movement to Harris and no epiphany amongst Trump supporters. The core Trump voters will not change their votes. Trump will continue to poll 43.5% to 44.5% and  Harris will poll 44.5% to 45.5% until election day, unless there is a critical event.  The goal for the Democrats is that they must get their supporters to vote in the swing states.   Absolute numbers mean nothing because Trump has absolute majority in some states, just as Harris has absolute majorities in other states.

 

Get excited when the Harris poll lead exceeds 4%, otherwise it will remain a  nail biter until the bitter end.

You do remember that Joe Biden got 51%+ in 2020....?

[cdemundo]

15 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

One would be  foolish to become over excited at the polling data. Yes, it it is good news for the Democrats as it suggests that Democrats are firming up their support and retaining the coalition who elected Biden. That's all. There is no overwhelming movement to Harris and no epiphany amongst Trump supporters. The core Trump voters will not change their votes. Trump will continue to poll 43.5% to 44.5% and  Harris will poll 44.5% to 45.5% until election day, unless there is a critical event.  The goal for the Democrats is that they must get their supporters to vote in the swing states.   Absolute numbers mean nothing because Trump has absolute majority in some states, just as Harris has absolute majorities in other states.

 

Get excited when the Harris poll lead exceeds 4%, otherwise it will remain a  nail biter until the bitter end.

'Get excited when the Harris poll lead exceeds 4%"

 

"The New York Times/Siena College poll released on Saturday showed Harris with 50 percent support among voters in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, compared with Trump’s 46 percent support in each state."

 

Let's see 50 - 46 = 4%.

Ooh, ooh, can almost get excited.

[Hanaguma]

Let's see what happens when Harris eventually releases her platform,  or does a real interview,  or holds an open press conference.  So far she is running a brilliant campaign and using the MSM's support to full advantage. But hopefully journalists will begin to do their jobs soon.

[CallumWK]

33 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Let's see what happens when Harris eventually releases her platform,  or does a real interview,  or holds an open press conference.  So far she is running a brilliant campaign and using the MSM's support to full advantage. But hopefully journalists will begin to do their jobs soon.

Don't hold your breath on any of that to happen.

The only reason why Harris became VP was because it HAD to be a woman who identified as black, and they still went for an Indian. Why she got her previous government functions is well documented, so no need to go into that again.

In 2020 she dropped out of the race even before the primaries, so it is clear how much she is qualified for the job.

[watthong]

4 hours ago, CallumWK said:

In 2020 she dropped out of the race even before the primaries, so it is clear how much she is qualified for the job.

 

In 2024 here she is - salt to your hurt pride! - and lack of joy (see Trump.)

 

Freedom!

 

Edited August 12 by watthong

[CallumWK]

3 minutes ago, watthong said:

 

In 2024 here she is - salt to your hurt pride! - and lack of joy (see Trump.)

 

Freedom!

 

 

She dropped out of the 2020 race because she was the only Democrat who had no delegates. Wonder how much money has changed hands to create what we see now.

Maybe supporters are bused in and paid?

[JackGats]

Hillary Clinton was winning in the polls until the very end, remember?

[CallumWK]

Few months ago Harris scored lower than Biden in the polls, and that says something.

 

So how is it possible that everyone like her now?

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, CallumWK said:

Few months ago Harris scored lower than Biden in the polls, and that says something.

 

So how is it possible that everyone like her now?

 

It's what you call the media machine, she got a "Brat" makeover and all of a sudden her insane cackle was not at all insane, but merely evidence of her "Brat" status. Her tedious and boring persona became "electrifying" according to MSNBC. All the democrat superstars from Obama to Schumer to Pelosi to Taylor Swift and Beyonce got behind this superb candidate, and if they tell you she' great, well, they have to know, right?

 

Right?

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

It's what you call the media machine, she got a "Brat" makeover and all of a sudden her insane cackle was not at all insane, but merely evidence of her "Brat" status. Her tedious and boring persona became "electrifying" according to MSNBC. All the democrat superstars from Obama to Schumer to Pelosi to Taylor Swift and Beyonce got behind this superb candidate, and if they tell you she' great, well, they have to know, right?

 

Right?

 

I like your sense of humor. 🙂 

[FriscoKid]

12 minutes ago, JackGats said:

Hillary Clinton was winning in the polls until the very end, remember?

Yes, indeed. But she was a very unpopular candidate to begin with. It's amazing she even did as well as she did. Harris is in a much better position against Trump though it seems. Also, Clinton failed to visit all the key swing states right before the election. Big mistake. And then you had the Comey emails come out right before the election. Clinton still won the popular vote, surprisingly, but it was those swing states that cost her the election at the last minute. Don't think Harris will make any of those same Clinton rookie mistakes. In my view she's got this. 
 

Edited August 12 by FriscoKid

[CallumWK]

8 minutes ago, FriscoKid said:

Yes, indeed. But she was a very unpopular candidate to begin with. It's amazing she even did as well as she did. Harris is in a much better position against Trump though it seems. Also, Clinton failed to visit all the key swing states right before the election. Big mistake. And then you had the Comey emails come out right before the election. Clinton still won the popular vote, surprisingly, but it was those swing states that cost her the election at the last minute. Don't think Harris will make any of those same Clinton rookie mistakes. In my view she's got this. 
 

 

Read my post above. Four years ago she couldn't even find a single delegate, few months ago she scored the lowest of all VP's ever in the polls, but today she's Americas idol? Something just doesn't add up

Edited August 12 by CallumWK

[SoCal1990]

1 minute ago, CallumWK said:

 

Read my post above. Four years ago she couldn't even find a single delegate, few months ago she scored the lowest of all VP's ever in the polls, but today she's Americas idol? Something just doesn't add up

Doesn’t matter. Trump is so easy to beat. Even Biden beat him by campaigning from his basement. So Kamala will beat him just as easily. 
 

And Trump shouldn't be worrying at all about crowd sizes these days. Pretty soon jumpsuit and cell size is going to become the only worries for Trump. 

[watthong]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rob Browder]

This isn't complicated.  Few Americans want Trump OR Harris.  Harris's support is those who hate Trump / Rs more than her - and Trump's support is those who hate Harris / Ds more than him. 

 

As for Trump, he betrayed his base on everything Americans who supported him voted for in 2016.  Then, he ran the Covid train-wreck - listened to the "experts," who are now proven liars - though anyone with the Internet could look up the sordid histories of the major players in that - and the histories of all his crappy deep-state hires from the start, as well. 

 

There was no point in the Trump presidency when he stood up to the "swamp" he promised to drain.  He caved every time, on every issue.  Worst of all, his "fans" cheered him screwing us over at every stage - making up the most ridiculous excuses - and they still are.  But, to spite his "fans," he lost to Biden because he sold out, and enough of his 2016 voters saw that, and didn't bother even voting in 2020.

 

"Vote for me and we can go back to not-as-bad," doesn't create the greatest "get out the vote" energy.  He can't work the border issue as well, because he said on video to "business leaders" (generally hated as traitors by the D and R bases), that he wants to hand out Green-Cards** to anyone who can get a 2-year community-college degree or better.  That means Americans can forget prosperous careers - EVERY type of career, from welder to doctor.  Such a bill would be harder for a D-President to get through Congress, so you vote for slightly less-bad, but get worse.

 

**(Green-Card = Permanent Residence in the USA - and just a few years to get citizenship, from there)

Edited August 12 by Rob Browder

[shdmn]

Can't imagine why a convicted felon who wants to have sex with his daughter and salutes N. Korean generals would have bad poll numbers.

 

 

[CharlieKo]

On 8/12/2024 at 1:46 AM, it is what it is said:

 

the only poll that matters in the one on election day. however, i do feel, on balance, it's Kamala's to lose

She lost it already. With a VP candidate who's accused of stolen valour. How is she going to win. Unless the American voters have totally lost their minds, which isn't past the realms of reality, unfortunately!

Edited August 12 by CharlieKo

[Rob Browder]

5 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

She lost it already. With a VP candidate who's accused of stolen valour. How is she going to win. Unless the American voters have totally lost their minds, which isn't past the realms of reality, unfortunately!

Vs "Bone Spurs" draft-deferment Trump?  The Rs had a chance for a good candidate - solid on every conservative policy + a military-record - in DeSantis, but there were too many Trump "fan" fools in the R-Primary, who think this is some sort of "rah-rah my team" event - the sort who think WWF wrestling is "real."  Granted, the "Orange Man Bad" types are equally clueless - just flip the "face" and "heel" roles in the WWF-Ring.  American politics are a sad, sick joke, now.