Tv Picture Quality

[solo siam]

Ben:

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/S-Video

"S-VIDEO Separated Video (same as Y/C, Luminance and Chrominance)"

The Super video you refer to is probably from the VHS days, when there was actually something known as "super-VHS" or S-VHS. It's not the same thing, although S-VHS machines usually had a S-video connector.

As for component and RGB, people often refer to component as RGB, although, yes, they are different. The reason it's referred to as RGB by a lot of people is because of the color of the cables (red, green, and blue).

I don't know anyone that refers to it as "seperate video" although Wikipedia also claims the same as you, It was designed especially for Super-VHS - I can point to dozens of sites that list it as defined as Super-Video.

http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/s/svideo.htm

http://searchsmb.techtarget.com/sDefinitio...i930060,00.html

http://www.geek.com/s-video-super-video/

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/S/S_Video.html

http://www.hometheaterfocus.com/accessories/s-video.aspx

http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2...;i=50751,00.asp

Just have to disagree on that one, I've never heard it referred to as "seperate video" in the industry.

The RGB and component issue is different as they are very different systems, and not usually intercompatible.

[Firefoxx]

You can do a google on "separate" and S-video and come up with a host of sites that say that S-video is indeed "separate video". Go ahead, try it. There are plenty of sites relating to the video industry that say that S-video is "separate" video. It's rather logical that the s in s-video would stand for separate, since it's the step up from composite, which is combined. It's also logical that it would stand for "super", since it was developed to be used with S-VHS machines. Here, an example:

http://www.webvideozone.com/public/141.cfm

"S-Video is an analog video signal.

It carries video data as two separate signals: brightness and colour. S-Video stands for "separate video," and is also known as Y/C (or erroneously, S-VHS and "super video")."

So in this case, from a web that pretty much "in" the industry, the Super Video definition is wrong (erroneous, to be exact).

Again, I know that RGB and component are different things. I said it's just also known as, not "the same thing as". There are plenty of things that people refer to wrongly, because of misunderstanding, or because of popular culture. It might not be right, but once it's out in the wild, it sticks. Just like the S-video thing. There seem to be two very different definitions on it, and each party thinks theirs is right. I did give a explanation of YCbCr, so I think I covered my bases with regard to confusion on the term.

Terms like these can be tossed around like a salad, mixed and matched, and pretty much butchered to an inch of its life. Thing is, if the term can convey the meaning, it's good enough. We could get really really anal and start bringing in experts and pundits with 5,000 pages of supporting evidence, but if you really want to go down that path, please count me out. The only reason I replied was because I don't really like people thinking that I'm spitting out drivel instead of the facts. I spent a lot of time writing up that explanation, and being jumped on for technical gray areas is really annoying, to say the least. I don't have the time to dot all my i's or cross all my t's, if I did, I wouldn't have to live my own life, I'd just be constantly checking my facts, and adding addenums like "1a this is also referred to in the industry as etc etc etc 1b refer to source xflkm".

Yeah, I'm not happy.

[Plus]

At the moment I'm stuck with a small 21'' TV. I have a couple of movies I downloaded, ready to watch, but I'm waiting until I get back home to a 32'' LCD. They just look so much better on a big wide screen.

[ferguston]

Simple question, going back to the start of this topic.

I only have UBC, watch a few DVDs and have only a PS2.

Am I wasting money in buying a widescreen,LCD TV? I also assume that UBC, apart from its poor resolution, doesn't even transmit a widescreen signal?

Ferguston

[zzSleepyJohn]

....... There is no widescreen/HDTV signal in Thailand, period.....

Not strictly true, IMHO. There are some HD satellite transmissions up there in the sky above Thailand, though whether they are worth looking at is another story.

For example on Eutelsat W5 at 70degE on transponder 11305 V, SR 27500 there's Luxe HD TV http://www.luxe.tv/EN/ which I believe shows travel and fashion clips.

Then on Asiasat 4 at 122degE on 4060V SR 27500 there's Chinese CCTV HD http://www.cctvhd.com/ apparently broadcasting movies, though I don't know if any have English soundtracks.

My point is that anyone who has gone to the expense of an HD TV here, finding themselves bereft of any HD programme source, might consider getting themselves an HD satellite box, rather than just watching standard TV on it.

Even if the available progs aren't up to much at the moment, my guess is that satellite will be the way forward for live HD TV in Asia. Would be interested to know if anyone has actually seen any of these satellite signals here and if so what are they like?

+ SJ

[solo siam]

or just download HD stuff from the internet.

[Mr.StickyRice]

or just download HD stuff from the internet.

Interesting...I didn't know there was HD satellite signals available. As for downloading HD material (I assume you mean bittorent HD movies) good luck with that. I would take a month to download that big a file, unless you have some sorta blazing fast internet connection.

To the guy who just wants to watch UBC and has a PS2, I would suggest just going for the biggest CRT ( you know the old school TV with the big tube) you can find that has progressive scanning. As of now CRT is still the best picture quality, black levels and viewing angle and brightness, around.

PS2 games look like crap on LCD and fixed pixel displays, be careful. Just hook it up with a component cable to the CRT and enable progressive scan, I would suggest "Shadow of the Colosuss" or "God of War-2" as a good games to test the picture with since there are the most beautiful and technically advanced PS2 games.

If you can still find them the Sony Wega Super Fine Pitch CRTs are still have the highest rated picture quality to date, support HD widescreen, will look great with your PS2 and non HD material, and all around kick ass. Highly recommended!!

as I own one myself...

http://reviews.cnet.com/direct-view-tvs-cr...36650.html#more

"...makes the 910 irresistible to people who value image quality above everything else."

[ozymandious]

Lets hope that the quality of TruVisions picture and sound will improve with the introduction of their new set-top boxes with built-in hard drive in September. Although I'm not going to put money on it.

Source? Link?

I want to know more about this please.

Ozymandious, It was printed inside the cover this month's TrueVisions' Extra magazine. It's all in Thai so I called them. They said it was all starting in September but had little info right now. I just checked the website and they now have a page regarding it where you can sign up for Beta testing.

http://pvr.truevisionstv.com/marketing/index_en.html

thanks for the link!

Too be honest I havne't oppened up their magazine in aobut a year.

[ozymandious]

when my old TV died about a month ago I went into to power buy to look for a replacement.

I walked out with this one

Samsung CS-32Z30HE SlimFitTM HDTV

Cnet Asia Review

It's Big and Beautiful and cost's half as much as a 32in LCD. It looks just like a slim flat LCD from the front and it's "slim fit" design doesn't have it protrude out form the wall to far. (Mine is in an entertainment center so you don't even get an idea of the depth)

It's got what I need for what I use (DVD, PS2, UBC)

PS2 looks good, DVD is fantastic (component cable) WOW first time I've had a component TV and turned on the progressive scan on the DVD player (1080i). UBC fills out the screen fine and doesn't look too warped like it does on some bigger screens (42in Panasonic as reference) but I must say the UBC pixelation is more evedint on a bigger screen.

Component X2

Composite X3 (+1 S-video)

I don't haven any thing that has got HDMI on it so I passed on the the next model up which is only 2,000THB more for one HDMI connection.

If i could include one more thing into the TV it would have been an RGB connection for a computer.

All and all I'm happy with my purchase.

Edited August 15, 2007 by ozymandious

[MrSnrang]

I don't like CRT tvs, the whine hurts my ears.