Going short-time only, shallow or succulent?

[MalcolmB]

If it wasn’t for the easy Thai women I think it is safe to say 97% of us wouldn’t be here.

[ElwoodP]

Off topic posts removed along with some personal attacks and replies.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

This guy is a therapist. He has a very unconventional view on hookers.

He did a 3 part series on hookers.

He makes some brilliant points.

One being that with a hooker you can never attain the highs that you might in a real relationship, but the downsides are also mitigated.

Anyway, it doesn't do any justice for me to quote him. You need to give him a listen as he makes a lot of interesting points. 

 

 

Not true in the Thailand farang scene. The bad ones charge the same as the good ones. I can only think of the escort scene in western countries where one would pay more for one from a more upmarket company.

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Try researching before guessing, or listening to other clueless friends for your misinformation. Calling someone ignorant without knowing them, and basing your name calling on information you got from where? Try looking things up, then looking up more to see if they match, before making a reply. 99% came without enticement? Where do you get your figures. making them up for sure. I have provided links for others to see the real stories. there are many more. If you have a computer, try it yourself. It's called research. beats word of mouth.

 

 

I had to read this post several times to comprehend your sheer gall.

 

One or two pages ago on this thread, you posted blatantly ignorant information about the system of imperial measurement. Who used it. A few keystrokes of research would have shown how wrong you were.

 

BTW, if you want people to leave God out of it, I suggest you stop shoving your beliefs about him/her/it down everyone's throats. You're the one bringing Christianity into the discussion.

 

Ever heard of the Greek saying, Hubris is always followed by Nemesis?

[fredwiggy]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I had to read this post several times to comprehend your sheer gall.

 

One or two pages ago on this thread, you posted blatantly ignorant information about the system of imperial measurement. Who used it. A few keystrokes of research would have shown how wrong you were.

 

BTW, if you want people to leave God out of it, I suggest you stop shoving your beliefs about him/her/it down everyone's throats. You're the one bringing Christianity into the discussion.

 

Ever heard of the Greek saying, Hubris is always followed by Nemesis?

Gall is calling people retards without knowing anything about them. It is also a term used by teenagers so. I said billions, okay so it's millions that still use standard. Big deal. I don't shove anything down anyone's throats by saying I'm a believer.  If you're going to nitpick, that invites others to do the same. I posted links for others to read. Not my fault if they didn't and are in denial of what constitutes prostitution and the dangers associated with it. If they're going to defend their side, I brought proof to dispute it. If you don't understand that, stay out of the discussion.

Edited August 22 by fredwiggy

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

This guy is a therapist. He has a very unconventional view on hookers.

He did a 3 part series on hookers.

He makes some brilliant points.

One being that with a hooker you can never attain the highs that you might in a real relationship, but the downsides are also mitigated.

Anyway, it doesn't do any justice for me to quote him. You need to give him a listen as he makes a lot of interesting points. 

 

 

The entire relationship thing covering every possible scenario is fascinating. However it is something that most people do not discuss in a general conversation, so we are left guessing.

 

I don't care who the author is, but he could only discuss the people he actually talked with and that would be infinitesimally small as a % of the human population.

 

I could tell someone like him a great many interesting things about p4p, but no one ever asked me.

 

BTW he's wrong about that with a hooker you can never attain the highs that you might in a real relationship. I had the occasional high that I never experienced in my "real" relationships.

IMO, most normal relationships will never go beyond the mediocre sexually, simply because most people are too repressed emotionally. Only with someone not emotionally involved with can we really explore our fantasies, IMO.

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Gall is calling people retards without knowing anything about them. It is also a term used by teenagers so. I said billions, okay so it's millions that still use standard. Big deal. I don't shove anything down anyone's throats by saying I'm a believer.  If you're going to nitpick, that invites others to do the same. I posted links for others to read. Not my fault if they didn't and are in denial of what constitutes prostitution and the dangers associated with it. If they're going to defend their side, I brought proof to dispute it. If you don't understand that, stay out of the discussion.

You don't get to tell me what discussions I can participate in, Mr. Arrogant. Get yourself appointed a moderator if that is what you want.

 

You don't seem to understand the links you provide are generated by people who have a vested interest in maximizing any bad news about prostitution. Their paycheck depends on it.

 

IMO the use of the term prostitute is used by bigots. You've already provided ample evidence of that. I use the term sex workers, because that is what they do. Some very well, some not so well.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

You don't get to tell me what discussions I can participate in, Mr. Arrogant. Get yourself appointed a moderator if that is what you want.

 

You don't seem to understand the links you provide are generated by people who have a vested interest in maximizing any bad news about prostitution. Their paycheck depends on it.

 

IMO the use of the term prostitute is used by bigots. You've already provided ample evidence of that. I use the term sex workers, because that is what they do. Some very well, some not so well.

Social workers aren't invested interests. And if they all say the same thing? I've found many more that go along with the others. Are they all liars, getting paid, wrong, feminists? I'm not arrogant defending my side. Your calling Americans retards is what? What you don't seem to realize is that prostitution, sex workers, or whatever you want to call it, is not a good trade. It's dangerous, has severe psychological impacts on all those involved, people are abused a lot more then you know and some are killed. Human trafficking isn't near a joke. You yourself stated there wasn't anymore violence in it than regular relationships.This is from another link.......

It is a job like any other.”

Do you know any other job where people face a mortality rate 10 to 40 times above the average? Where 60 to 80% of “workers” experience regular physical and sexual abuse? If this is a job like any other, how come so few women from Western Europe take the opportunity?

Edited August 22 by fredwiggy

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

This guy is a therapist. He has a very unconventional view on hookers.

He did a 3 part series on hookers.

He makes some brilliant points.

One being that with a hooker you can never attain the highs that you might in a real relationship, but the downsides are also mitigated.

Anyway, it doesn't do any justice for me to quote him. You need to give him a listen as he makes a lot of interesting points.

 

 

Watched it and agreed with everything he said. Sex is a service that every man wants, same as a meal he didn't cook himself, or a clean house he couldn't be bothered to clean himself.

 

Also his points about your wife hating you more than a woman you paid for sex, easier and cheaper to avoid a woman you previously paid for sex, than a woman you previously married for sex.

Edited August 22 by BritManToo

[1FinickyOne]

On 8/20/2024 at 2:33 PM, Celsius said:

 

What idiot funds their wife?

 

Not me.

Fund their wives? Is that what many of us call sharing? 

[n00dle]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Sex is not a service. This is from a former prostitute...........

 

Wow Fred, you really are a Renaissance man, is there anything you havent done?

Edited August 22 by n00dle

[fredwiggy]

Just now, n00dle said:

 

Wow Fred, you really are a Renaissance man, is there anything you havent done?

Put you on ignore

[n00dle]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Put you on ignore

But i still get the joy of your earnest ramblings and endless paragraphs. so its a win

[fredwiggy]

Just now, n00dle said:

But i still get the joy of your earnest ramblings and endless paragraphs. so its a win

But they do end, as you can see. Sometimes it takes more than a few words to get your point across, as to not leave out important facts. Kinda like all professional writers do.

[n00dle]

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

But they do end, as you can see. Sometimes it takes more than a few words to get your point across, as to not leave out important facts. Kinda like all professional writers do.

so much for ignored, you better get on that my good fellow. As for professional writers, what did you make writing for the tech industry last year?  

Edited August 22 by n00dle

[fredwiggy]

6 minutes ago, n00dle said:

so much for ignored, you better get on that my good fellow. As for professional writers, what did you make writing for the tech industry last year?  

I'm not a professional writer. I just read their stories. I don't put people on ignore. People have a right to say their peace. The mods are here to stop the insults.

[RSD1]

11 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm not trying to be biased in any way. I'm trying to point out what some seem to miss. That this trade isn't the okay thing some seem to think it is. It comes with much psychological damage to those involved, and the ones promoting it don't care because they are benefiting from it in more than one way. My points are that men don't need to turn to it, as there are millions of women looking for relationships around the world, that would love to have a decent man to giver her all to. There are also many very sick, disturbed men that look to this trade with the specific purpose of harming or killing women. This is something that makes any decent man sick to his stomach. More so when he has daughters and a wife or girlfriend. Behind he scenes there is a lot more violence than whet you see.True, most men going for sex workers are only looking to get off, but many are there to control, dominate, abuse and torture these women. Stats don't lie. Some won't read links because they don't want to hear the dark side, thinking it doesn't exist because they don't see it. Murder happens daily here but most of us will never see it. Doesn't mean it isn't happening. Doesn't take long to read up on this and it might change some minds. of course it won't change many, because there are those that haven't the skills or the desire necessary to have a normal relationship with a regular girl, who are the majority worldwide................https://sisters-ev.de/en/18-myths-on-prostitution/.

In the amount of time you've taken to write 200+ pathetic word salads (which nobody agrees with in any way) on the subject of prostitution, I've gone short-time a number of times, loved every minute of it, and the girls were pleased to have me as a customer. Meanwhile, you're insanely obsessed, tired, and frustrated that nobody agrees with any of your bizarre castrations. I also don't read any of your posts. Why would I? Probably most people don't either. All I can say is thank goodness that you have no means of trading places with me. I love my short-time life and I would hate to be stuck in a world with your desperate existence. Sad that you will never be able to understand how great life can be. What a shame. 
 

Edited August 22 by RSD1

[n00dle]

15 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm not a professional writer. I just read their stories. I don't put people on ignore. People have a right to say their peace. The mods are here to stop the insults.

 

Is somebody else using your account? you seem to be contradicting yourself today ignore/don't ignore, professional writer/ just a reader. 

 

Anyways you have earned my respect, as my mother once said, anybody working in the sex industry earns every penny. 

 

I'm just amazed you find the time to compose your single paragraph novellas in the midst of it all!

 

 

Edited August 22 by n00dle

[jacob29]

5 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

He could have written that himself, but he didn't. Instead, he reacted badly.

Due to your delivery.

 

5 hours ago, NowNow said:

Though I don't know how you can assume that she wasn't disgusted. It's not as if she offered to waive her fees due to her liking him so much. 

Not being disgusted is hardly the same as liking someone a lot. Her actions weren't consistent with someone who was disgusted (though that remains a possibility).

 

5 hours ago, NowNow said:

Personally, I choose to be only with women who want to be with me without the financial incentive. I don't do sloppy seconds.

Would you like a gold star? Some people are less concerned with how others perceive them, I don't believe the other poster was seeking any form of approval. Neither the women who engage in this work - as you have to be thick skinned to deal with the judgement from people like fredwiggy - who will insist you're damaged goods.

[RSD1]

2 minutes ago, n00dle said:

Is somebody else using your account? you seem to be contradicting yourself today. 

He hasn't slept in days. Obsessed with ending prostitution in the world and spreading his bizarre beliefs and anti prostitution links. He's become delirious and seemingly is about to implode. 

[n00dle]

2 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

He hasn't slept in days. Obsessed with ending prostitution in the world and spreading his bizarre beliefs and anti prostitution links. He's become delirious and seemingly is about to implode. 

 

I reckon he could use a short time -- ease the pressure, dontcha know.

[RSD1]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Says the man who has to pay for his women, to the man who doesn't. Think a little.

The women don't want me to stop paying for them. If I stopped they would be very upset. Can't let that happen. 

[RSD1]

37 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm not a professional writer. I just read their stories. I don't put people on ignore. People have a right to say their peace. The mods are here to stop the insults.

You've been giving yourself a wedgie for the last 3 days about what other men choose to rightfully do with their penises. If you aren't the most bizarre and desperate act, then I don't know what is. 

[Jimjim1]

On 8/19/2024 at 8:08 PM, Hummin said:

Oh crap

Case in point.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, RSD1 said:

You've been giving yourself a wedgie for the last 3 days about what other men choose to rightfully do with their penises. If you aren't the most bizarre and desperate act, then I don't know what is. 

It actually should bother you what goes on in this trade, seeing that you're involved in it and like the girls. I would think you would do anything to help because they are giving you a nice time. What makes me bizarre wanting to have all women and children treated well? I'm a father with daughters, so I worry about them and all other children. A lot of people come to Thailand looking for under aged children for this. Makes me sick, so I'm thinking it should also you, especially if you also have kids.

[RSD1]

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Actually I just came back from mowing the yard and working out, lunch and a talk with a daughter in Texas. If I can do my part to help stop one girl, boy or women from being victimized by some weirdo ,I'll do just that. Bizarre is actually thinking no harm is done promoting a trade that allows trafficking to continue, as does legalization. Sad no one cares to look into how many of these poor girls and some children are beaten or worse daily. Truth is, I do not think anyone here on AN is doing anything being involved in this  besides having sex. What I do know is that there are people in Thailand that are. I'm against those that hurt women and children. Simple truth. My posting links is only to put the truth out there.

Give it a rest. As you said, nobody here is doing anything other than having consensual sex with prostitutes. So your castrations are all in vain. If you want to change something in the world for the better then go out and do it. But blanket patronizing people on a forum who aren't harming anyone is a waste of time. And asking them to join your strange crusade is even worse. 

 

 

Edited August 22 by RSD1

[fredwiggy]

Just now, RSD1 said:

Give it a rest. As you said, nobody here is doing anything other than having consensual 

sex with prostitutes. So your castrations are all in vain. If you want to change something in the world for the better then go out and do it. But blanket patronizing people on a forum who aren't harming anyone is a waste of time. 

It's a discussion forum, with people taking sides. That's what I'm doing. I know the dangers of this trade and what happens to some and would like to see it stopped. Human trafficking is a pet peeve of mine, as it should be with everyone. The more people that are informed of any wrongdoings, the better chance it will stop.

[RSD1]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Human trafficking is a pet peeve of mine, as it should be with everyone.

Says who?

[fredwiggy]

Just now, RSD1 said:

Says who?

Well, you're either for it or against it.

[RSD1]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Well, you're either for it or against it.

That's a separate issue. Asking everyone to make human trafficking their own crusade, like you claim that you are doing, is ridiculous. And I would say that there isn't any merit in what you're trying to do here on this forum either. If you want to make a difference and help some troubled people then go out and do it. But don't chastise the people here who aren't part of the problem. You're wasting everyone's time and for the last few days, you have been deeply embarrassing yourself.