Mixed kid living in Thailand.

[Scouse123]

7 hours ago, khunPer said:

If the child is born by a Thai mother in Thailand, the child will (automatically) be a Thai citizen. To my knowledge also a child born by a Thai mother in a foreign country can be Thai citizen.

 

If you are not married to the mother, you are not legal father, even if your name is on the Thai birth-certificate. To be legal father outside of marriege either a DNA-test is needed, when the child an infant or toddler, or an approval at the local Amphor district-office when the child is 7 years or older; at the Amphor-office both parents and the child needs to be present.

 

To obtain foreign – and thereby dual – citizenship, you will normally need to be approved father (legal married, or DNA, or by Amphor-approval) and follow the procedure from your home country with legalization of various documents. It can sometimes be little complicated, depending of the country's demand for documentation, especially if not legally married.

 

 

It's all irrelevant.

 

The boy is in Sweden with his father, he was born in Sweden, he has a Swedish passport and Swedish citizenship.

 

To all intents and purposes, as it stands, the boy is Swedish.

 

You can quote whatever you like, but I think she has no chance of extracting that boy from Sweden, and he probably wouldn't want to go.

 

The man must have been recognized as the legal father, otherwise, what is he doing in Sweden.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 21 by Scouse123

[khunPer]

14 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

 

It's all irrelevant.

 

The boy is in Sweden with his father, he was born in Sweden, he has a Swedish passport and Swedish citizenship.

 

To all intents and purposes, as it stands, the boy is Swedish.

 

You can quote whatever you like, but I think she has no chance of extracting that boy from Sweden, and he probably wouldn't want to go.

 

The man must have been recognized as the legal father, otherwise, what is he doing in Sweden.

I'm replying to the questions in opening post, "Mixed kid living in Thailand", which is also what I quoted...😉

Edited August 22 by khunPer

[GroveHillWanderer]

2 hours ago, khunPer said:

I'm replying to the questions in opening post, "Mixed kid living in Thailand", which is also what I quoted...😉

That's true - there's some totally contradictory information on this thread from the OP. The thread title says the kid is living in Thailand. Later on the OP says the kid is living in Sweden. Makes it a little confusing.

[kneebendingfools]

On 8/20/2024 at 4:27 PM, fredwiggy said:

DNA evidence is used to prove parenthood in Thailand. The child is 50% Swedish and 50% Thai. The child is a Swedish and Thai citizen. If you want the child to have a better life, keep him in Sweden.

Tanks

[kneebendingfools]

On 8/22/2024 at 4:18 PM, GroveHillWanderer said:

That's true - there's some totally contradictory information on this thread from the OP. The thread title says the kid is living in Thailand. Later on the OP says the kid is living in Sweden. Makes it a little confusing.

Sorry about that, we are in Thailand now, but we live in Swe.

But does that matter?

[kneebendingfools]

On 8/21/2024 at 7:38 PM, placnx said:

So in Sweden, does it matter if the couple is married? As long as the father is named on the birth certificate, that would give him all the cards, as long as the child is not kidnapped/taken to Thailand.

 

On 8/21/2024 at 9:01 AM, Scouse123 said:

 

I don't think she can, you are holding all the cards.

 

The boy has Swedish nationality, he has a Swedish passport and father, and he resides in Sweden.

Thanks

[FritsSikkink]

On 8/20/2024 at 2:06 PM, kneebendingfools said:

Yes, and citizen in the fathers country but not in Thailand, the question is can she make our kid thai without my help or agreement?

The kid is already Thai, only needs the paperwork done.

[richard_smith237]

On 8/20/2024 at 9:23 PM, NativeBob said:

@fredwiggy my previous post was [obviously] sarcastic.

We all know that a kid growing in Thai education system has very low chances of building a significant carrier, but if the kid is "lu-kruang" -  almost abysmal. Sorry to say that but its true. 

 

If referring to the government schools, agreed.

Otherwise, International Schools here are excellent... 

 

On 8/20/2024 at 9:23 PM, NativeBob said:

And yes, he must stay with his father. No need to discuss. "Must" is the keyword. 

Even if its an African country - doesn't matter, father is most important.

 

Nope... father isn't the most important, if having to chose, the better parent is the most important and thats not always the father and not always the mother. 

 

 

On 8/20/2024 at 9:23 PM, NativeBob said:

PS: Thai citizenship is seriously over-rated by some foreigners. We can live just fine with our pathetic retirement visas, no need those Elite-Shmelite "Ok, you can stay here 5-10 years" nonsense.  

 

Not at all: Thai Citizenship gives you access to free healthcare. 

As I age, I expect insurance premiums to rise to such a level I have little choice but to self insure and hosptials dual charge here - SO.... If one can obtain Thai Citizenship - it has that huge advantage. 

Then there is the advantage of never having to do the 'visa stuff' again.

Also, on the 'Elite-shmelite' comment.... My Thai Elite membership and accompanying Visa

s are for life.

[NativeBob]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

If referring to the government schools, agreed.

Otherwise, International Schools here are excellent... 

 

Nope... father isn't the most important, if having to chose, the better parent is the most important and thats not always the father and not always the mother. 

 

Not at all: Thai Citizenship gives you access to free healthcare. 

As I age, I expect insurance premiums to rise to such a level I have little choice but to self insure and hosptials dual charge here - SO.... If one can obtain Thai Citizenship - it has that huge advantage. 

Then there is the advantage of never having to do the 'visa stuff' again.

Also, on the 'Elite-shmelite' comment.... My Thai Elite membership and accompanying Visa

s are for life.

 

International Schools here are the worst mockery of education. Yesterday visited Berkeley at Bang-Na to meet old friend: "wannabee asylum on steroids"

Nope, it is the father, not other person.

Free healthcare? Never needed. 

If one can obtain Thai Citizenship that would good for sure, but seriously don't sweat.

Good, you paid money for membership, I just deposited it. Your choice of convenience. 

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

If referring to the government schools, agreed.

Otherwise, International Schools here are excellent... 

 

Nope... father isn't the most important, if having to chose, the better parent is the most important and thats not always the father and not always the mother. 

 

Not at all: Thai Citizenship gives you access to free healthcare. 

As I age, I expect insurance premiums to rise to such a level I have little choice but to self insure and hosptials dual charge here - SO.... If one can obtain Thai Citizenship - it has that huge advantage. 

Then there is the advantage of never having to do the 'visa stuff' again.

Also, on the 'Elite-shmelite' comment.... My Thai Elite membership and accompanying Visa

s are for life.

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International Schools here are the worst mockery of education. Yesterday visited Berkeley at Bang-Na to meet old friend: "wannabee asylum on steroids"

 

I'm not sure what '=Berkley is like...    But if you've never had a child at one of the international schools in Thailand, then you are not qualified to comment. 

 

My Son's International school is simply fantastic.

 

6 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

Nope, it is the father, not other person.

 

That is surely an individual situation - there is no consistency that suggests in 'single parent situations the father is always better' - thats just rubbish, the mother may be the better parent, or neither. 

 

6 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

Free healthcare? Never needed. 

 

You will need healthcare one day - and if its something serious that can get very expensive (my bills have exceeded US$20,000 in the past 12 months alone)

 

6 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

If one can obtain Thai Citizenship that would good for sure, but seriously don't sweat.

 

For the free healthcare option - Citizenship makes sense for anyone living here who is working here (for longer than 3 years) - it takes effort of course.

 

6 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

Good, you paid money for membership, I just deposited it. Your choice of convenience. 

 

And you get a yearly visa - with the life time Thai Elite, I get a life time of Visas, a lifetime of Airport transport and fast track, a life time of free Golf, Massages, yearly hospital checkups...  15 years in, Membership has already paid for itself and then there is the option to sell it on....   (and memberships are now worth more than they use to).