Looks like Americans fight most here?

[Yagoda]

5 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Ive alleged for years that the GCA, which eliminated the right to own a "new" machine gun (the details of the rules are to complicated for non gun folks) is unconstitutional. I havent read the decision so cant say what the basis is, or how the NFA is interpreted.

 

But for all of the ignorant folks who like to pontificate about "machine guns", you should note that there are thousands and thousands of lawfully owned machine guns in the USA.  Only one has been used in a crime in 90 years. At one time even I had a few.

 

Carry on. 

[maesariang]

20 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Given nearly 50% of you guys will vote for a 78 yo felon in visible cognitive decline, why should I feel inferior?

 

70% of you still believe in angels. Compared to you, I'm Einstein.

 

I am normal BMI. 40% of you are fat slugs.

Like Mandela.

[frank83628]

On 8/23/2024 at 2:11 PM, Roo Island said:

The US is a divided nation, driven a lot by dodgy politicians and fake news right wing media outlets. The latter proven by the fact many on the right still fall for the big lie, started by the divider in chief, Trump.

 

One reason I won't move back. Sucks.

so no left wing media at all eh?  'the big lie' are you for real?  that comment has literally proved why there is a divide..

your anger toward someone else's opinion fuels the divide, but you are oblivious to the fact it's the  legacy media you have watched for 60yrs that is making you think the way you do... 

[maesariang]

9 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so no left wing media at all eh?  'the big lie' are you for real?  that comment has literally proved why there is a divide..

your anger toward someone else's opinion fuels the divide, but you are oblivious to the fact it's the  legacy media you have watched for 60yrs that is making you think the way you do... 

He can't afford it. Biden inflation.

[oslooskar]

44 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

why should I feel inferior?

That's a good question. Maybe if you find the answer, you'll come to terms with your feelings of inferiority.

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, oslooskar said:

That's a good question. Maybe if you find the answer, you'll come to terms with your feelings of inferiority.

I have been an invited speaker at several American conferences, with funding provided for my travel by the organizers.

 

Presumably, I was invited because Americans thought they could learn something from an Australian.

 

Do you always lead with your chin?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I have been an invited speaker at several American conferences, with funding provided for my travel by the organizers.

 

Presumably, I was invited because Americans thought they could learn something from an Australian.

 

Do you always lead with your chin?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And now you spend your days attacking Trump.

[oslooskar]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Presumably, I was invited because Americans thought they could learn something from an Australian.

They probably could have. Were they psychiatrists?

[bradiston]

14 hours ago, oslooskar said:

What you're doing is presenting what is known as a "REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM" argument. You're attempting to disprove my position by taking it to an absurd conclusion. However, you're leaping to an exaggerated and unwarranted conclusion without establishing a clear and logical connection. So, try again please!

 

 

You've cut and pasted my comment. I think it was you who did this before. I'm going to report it again. You have to follow the forum roles. Doesn't bode well for your ideas of freedom of speech. If you want to repost quoting my entire comment, I will refute your specious argument. Copied and pasted from where I wonder?

[bradiston]

15 hours ago, uncletiger said:

 

Not "Anything goes". Personal responsibility, rather than government control and censorship. There is a huge difference.

 

People like to say free speech does not mean you can scream FIRE! in a crowded theater. But that is EXACTLY what it means. However, you must also accept responsibility for the consequences of your speech. In this case, public endangerment.  You can punish crimes that are the results of speech, but not the speech itself.

 

Those who think the socialist model of Europe and the Commonwealth countries are superior, are really just relinquishing their rights freedoms so that a central authority decide what privileges they are allowed have back. This model will NEVER fly in America, and indeed many thousands of patriots have given their lives to make sure that it can't happen. Historical America treated its free people as grown ups, not children.

 

The reason America is in the state it is right now, is that for several generations foreign entities have been using psychology and manipulation to try and get Americans to accept the globalist model of dictatorship and control, but this is incompatible with the core values of the country. And it was always bound to fail. That is what MAGA is all about. It is eviscerating the influence of the globalist criminal syndicate from American institutions, and getting America back to its core principles. This is a messy struggle, as it has been infused with so much corruption from foreign powers intent on destroying and subjugating the country. But it's clear that the final push is now ready. And once exposed, the globalist tyrants who tried to enslave humanity and America will be exposed, leading to a new age of enlightenment not just in America, but across the world. The victory in America will spread to the European Bloc and the Commonwealth, providing a shining example of what genuine freedom looks like.

 

There are many who fear this because they've been controlled and manipulated for so long. They don't know how to think independently any more. But over time everyone will understand. There may still be minor skirmishes, but global wars don't start when people, not power drunk tyrants, are allowed to make the decisions.

 

Free speech....truly free, unfettered, critical speech, not the limited version of this allowed by central authorities in Europe...is the keystone that makes all of this possible.

The first 2 paragraphs I can accept. It's what I say in my comment. But I'm afraid from my point of view, you completely leave the rails thereafter. Socialist Europe? And the Commonwealth? Globalist tyrants? Isn't the leader of western hegemony (you missed that one) supposed to be the US? It's all gibberish in any case. I read this stuff everywhere. USA the saviour of the world! It's a nuthouse! Look at this thread for starters. Written in the main by kids for kids.

[earlinclaifornia]

I have thought this insite through.

Myself going on nine years here and I Never once met or experience a single American like your saying.

Could you somehow have confused this with the two parties arguing here n forums?

[Lacessit]

8 hours ago, oslooskar said:

They probably could have. Were they psychiatrists?

Analytical chemists, and corrosion engineers.

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

The first 2 paragraphs I can accept. It's what I say in my comment. But I'm afraid from my point of view, you completely leave the rails thereafter. Socialist Europe? And the Commonwealth? Globalist tyrants? Isn't the leader of western hegemony (you missed that one) supposed to be the US? It's all gibberish in any case. I read this stuff everywhere. USA the saviour of the world! It's a nuthouse! Look at this thread for starters. Written in the main by kids for kids.

 

Globalist is a code word for these people.

 

Freedom of Expression in the UK is a negative right. What that means is the government cannot take action for someone expressing a point of view. Negative rights oblige inaction. Positive right oblige action/

 

So Freedom of Expression in the UK means I don't have to listen to you, I don't have to publish your opinion. I don't have to agree with you

 

If it was a positive right, I have to listen to you, I have to publish your opinions.

 

The US Freedom of Speech is alsobased on the negative theory of the Free Speech Clause.

 

 

[Purdey]

On 8/24/2024 at 9:15 PM, TedG said:

 

I bet you tell tall tales all day long.

If you weren't such an idiot calling people liars without evidence I wouldn't do this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/upshot/one-third-dont-know-obamacare-and-affordable-care-act-are-the-same.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/07/many-dont-know-obamacare-and-affordable-care-act-are-the-same-thing.html

Kind of makes Americans look foolish.

[oslooskar]

2 hours ago, bradiston said:

You've cut and pasted my comment. I think it was you who did this before.

No, I did not cut and paste your comment. I've used that line before, but it is entirely my own. So, you can stop indulging in self-flattery.

[Purdey]

On 8/24/2024 at 6:09 PM, TedG said:

I call BS on this. 

Read it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/upshot/one-third-dont-know-obamacare-and-affordable-care-act-are-the-same.html

[oslooskar]

2 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Read it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/upshot/one-third-dont-know-obamacare-and-affordable-care-act-are-the-same.html

One has to subscribe to the New York Times in order to read the article. That being said, are we allowed to post links on this website?

[Purdey]

5 minutes ago, oslooskar said:

One has to subscribe to the New York Times in order to read the article. That being said, are we allowed to post links on this website?

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/07/many-dont-know-obamacare-and-affordable-care-act-are-the-same-thing.html

I think evidence counts. I believe AN thinks so too. 

P.S. you could simply Google "do Americans think Obamacare and the affordable care act are different".

[oslooskar]

2 minutes ago, Purdey said:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/07/many-dont-know-obamacare-and-affordable-care-act-are-the-same-thing.html

Thought you'd at least see the topic in the link 

Thanks! The second link you provided allowed me to read the article.

[oslooskar]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Analytical chemists, and corrosion engineers.

So, if you don't mind my asking, were you born and raised in Australia? I only ask because in my youth, I hitchhiked across Australia from Perth to Coolgardie, across the Nullarbor to Adelaide, then on to Melbourne, Sydney, Surfers Paradise (where I slept on the beach), Brisbane, Mount Isa, Camooweal (where I was almost killed), Tennant Creek, and finally Darwin. And I must say, I don't ever recall meeting an Australian with an inferiority complex as bad as yours. I also worked in construction in Darwin for almost 5 months.

[maesariang]

5 minutes ago, oslooskar said:

So, if you don't mind my asking, were you born and raised in Australia? I only ask because in my youth, I hitchhiked across Australia from Perth to Coolgardie, across the Nullarbor to Adelaide, then on to Melbourne, Sydney, Surfers Paradise (where I slept on the beach), Brisbane, Mount Isa, Camooweal (where I was almost killed), Tennant Creek, and finally Darwin. And I must say, I don't ever recall meeting an Australian with an inferiority complex as bad as yours. I also worked in construction in Darwin for almost 5 months.

He isn't like the average one. 

[bradiston]

3 hours ago, oslooskar said:

No, I did not cut and paste your comment. I've used that line before, but it is entirely my own. So, you can stop indulging in self-flattery.

Well, the post in question, regarding "REDUCTIO AD ABSURDAM", has disappeared. It was the text of my comment that you edited by copying and pasting parts of, into your reply. If you want to reply, you just press "Quote". Don't quote the bits you want and edit out the rest.

[oslooskar]

31 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Don't quote the bits you want and edit out the rest.

Why not?

[bradiston]

1 minute ago, oslooskar said:

Why not?

It's against forum rules. You've been found doing it twice. Can't figure out why it's a no no? Think about it.

[oslooskar]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

It's against forum rules. You've been found doing it twice. Can't figure out why it's a no no? Think about it.

 

I only make changes in the posts of others by shortening them. So, that does not appear to be a violation of rule 28.

 

28. You will not make changes to messages quoted from other members posts, except for purposes of shortening the quoted post. Do not shorten any post in a way that alters the context of the original post. Do not change the formatting of the post you are quoting.

[bradiston]

3 minutes ago, oslooskar said:

 

I only make changes in the posts of others by shortening them. So, that does not appear to be a violation of rule 28.

 

28. You will not make changes to messages quoted from other members posts, except for purposes of shortening the quoted post. Do not shorten any post in a way that alters the context of the original post. Do not change the formatting of the post you are quoting.

Hard to see how you can shorten a post without erasing a certain amount of context. In any event, I took issue with what you did and it seems the moderators did too. I would have been happy to argue your point of REDUCTIO etc, as I don't believe my comment actually was guilty of that. I merely pointed out, albeit using a phrase i think you found objectionable, ie "back to the jungle" or some such, simply to illustrate the possible outcome of a totally laissez faire policy, where anything goes, a phrase I used to qualify the jungle remark. From what I've read, we actually agree on the notion of an individual taking responsibility for what they post. But in an anonymous forum, stuff gets posted which I think is unacceptable, as nobody can realistically be held accountable, and that may be where we differ. But who's to say what's acceptable? Americans seem to lean towards anything. But as I think we agree, actions have consequences. People are within their rights (don't laugh) to call foul. Otherwise there's nothing to discuss. You can say what you like, as can I. Until it gets personal, as it often does. Does anything get resolved? No.

[oslooskar]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

Hard to see how you can shorten a post without erasing a certain amount of context.

 

I'm not a lawyer, but it might be a requirement to shorten a post to the part you are replying to because the last sentence of number seven of the Standards of conduct says, "Only quote the person you are replying to, and only quote the relevant section that you are discussing."

[bradiston]

20 minutes ago, oslooskar said:

 

I'm not a lawyer, but it might be a requirement to shorten a post to the part you are replying to because the last sentence of number seven of the Standards of conduct says, "Only quote the person you are replying to, and only quote the relevant section that you are discussing."

Well I hope you'll take it all on board in future. It's a matter of common sense to me. As I said before, if you just press "Quote" it works. If you want to quote only the bits you think are relevant, well, thats a subjective judgment you're making. Others might disagree, including the OP. Most posts are short enough that they don't normally need editing in a reply. I've seen posts outrageously and wilfully mangled in replies. I'll stick with the "Quote" button unless editing is obviously required for brevity. Another technique is to simply use the "Quote" button and then quote the bits from within the OP that you want to comment on.

[uncletiger]

9 hours ago, bradiston said:

The first 2 paragraphs I can accept. It's what I say in my comment. But I'm afraid from my point of view, you completely leave the rails thereafter. Socialist Europe? And the Commonwealth? Globalist tyrants? Isn't the leader of western hegemony (you missed that one) supposed to be the US? It's all gibberish in any case. I read this stuff everywhere. USA the saviour of the world! It's a nuthouse! Look at this thread for starters. Written in the main by kids for kids.

 

Not sure why you think Europe is not socialist, or what you have against the British Commonwealth countries, but otherwise I understand your point.

 

What I will say if you don't believe what I said is just wait until this psyop is over and then come back to this again.

 

The vast majority of what you are seeing right now on the global stage is scripted nonsense to A) keep people distracted and B) force such an absurd situation that people have to take notice and question what they believe to be true. It *IS* a psyop. The US military has been engaged in espionage warfare with the globalist criminal syndicate for the last several years, and the war is nearly over. The final result is going to be the end of the globalist criminal syndicate controlling Western governments. The USA is NOT in charge. It has never been in charge during our lifetimes. It has merely been the public enforcement arm of the globalist cabal. The actual headquarters of the syndicate is in Switzerland (or thereabouts), but the factions are everywhere.  This is the mafia element that is being defeated and eliminated, and this is what the coming DECLAS will eventually show. Have a conspiracy theorist friend handy to explain to you what is going on when this all comes out.

 

If you can understand how mafias were able to control municipalities like Chicago and New York in the early 20th, you should understand how they can control larger world governments. It's the same process. The globalist mafia just keeps themselves secret. JFK told us all there was no place in the US for secret societies, and he was going to break apart the CIA into a thousand pieces. He then went after the Rothschild's controlled private central bank, and shortly thereafter was assassinated. What is happening now is the final chapter of a war that was started back then.

[bradiston]

6 minutes ago, uncletiger said:

 

Not sure why you think Europe is not socialist, or what you have against the British Commonwealth countries, but otherwise I understand your point.

 

What I will say if you don't believe what I said is just wait until this psyop is over and then come back to this again.

 

The vast majority of what you are seeing right now on the global stage is scripted nonsense to A) keep people distracted and B) force such an absurd situation that people have to take notice and question what they believe to be true. It *IS* a psyop. The US military has been engaged in espionage warfare with the globalist criminal syndicate for the last several years, and the war is nearly over. The final result is going to be the end of the globalist criminal syndicate controlling Western governments. The USA is NOT in charge. It has never been in charge during our lifetimes. It has merely been the public enforcement arm of the globalist cabal. The actual headquarters of the syndicate is in Switzerland (or thereabouts), but the factions are everywhere.  This is the mafia element that is being defeated and eliminated, and this is what the coming DECLAS will eventually show. Have a conspiracy theorist friend handy to explain to you what is going on when this all comes out.

 

If you can understand how mafias were able to control municipalities like Chicago and New York in the early 20th, you should understand how they can control larger world governments. It's the same process. The globalist mafia just keeps themselves secret. JFK told us all there was no place in the US for secret societies, and he was going to break apart the CIA into a thousand pieces. He then went after the Rothschild's controlled private central bank, and shortly thereafter was assassinated. What is happening now is the final chapter of a war that was started back then.

I'm sorry but it just reads like some futuristic sci fi movie synopsis. Or, more likely, a computer game that's leaked into your brain and taken it over. I know the buzz you get from coding, it's like no other, and I think conspiracy theories are linked to that. They make you feel empowered, somehow you're smart enough to have figured out what's REALLY going on in the world. How it all works and fits together. All you have to do now is sit back, watch it happen, and be proved right. I read the same thing on comments sections on the Ukraine war, the US elections, BRICS, Western hegemony, Deep State, the globalist cabal, the globalist mafia etc etc. There's nothing new in these theories. They've been around for centuries. Every now and then they get updated. With the arrival of the internet in the 90s they really came into their own. Believe what you will! We all do!