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Ukraine Calls for Putin's Arrest Ahead of Historic Mongolia Visit

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Ukraine has called on Mongolia to arrest Russian President Vladimir Putin ahead of his upcoming visit to the country, marking the first time he will travel to an International Criminal Court (ICC) member state since the court issued a warrant for his arrest. The ICC accuses Putin of war crimes, specifically citing his failure to prevent the unlawful deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia since the conflict began.

 

An ICC spokesperson told the BBC that Mongolian officials "have the obligation" to adhere to ICC regulations. However, the spokesperson also clarified that this obligation does not necessarily mandate an arrest. The Kremlin has downplayed concerns over the visit, with spokesperson Dmitry Peskov stating, "We have an excellent rapport with our partners from Mongolia," and assured that "all aspects of the president’s visit have been carefully prepared."

 

Dr. Fadi el-Abdallah, another spokesperson for the ICC, emphasized that as a party to the ICC, Mongolia is obligated to cooperate under Chapter IX of the Rome Statute, the agreement that established the court. While the agreement does allow for certain exceptions, such as breaching a treaty obligation with another state or violating diplomatic immunity, non-cooperation could lead ICC judges to make a formal finding and report it to the Assembly of States Parties. Dr. el-Abdallah added that it would then be up to the Assembly to decide on any further actions.

 

The allegations against Putin, which also target Russia's commissioner for children's rights, Maria Lvova-Belova, stem from what the ICC describes as the unlawful deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia since the full-scale invasion began on February 24, 2022. Moscow has consistently denied these allegations, dismissing the warrants as "outrageous."

 

Despite these serious accusations, the ICC lacks the power to arrest suspects on its own, relying instead on cooperation from its member states. Ukraine's foreign ministry expressed hope that Mongolia would recognize Putin as a "war criminal" and urged the country's authorities to detain the Russian leader and turn him over to ICC prosecutors at The Hague.

 

The visit to Mongolia comes after Putin canceled a planned trip to a summit in South Africa last year following the ICC's issuance of the arrest warrant. As a signatory to the court, South Africa would have been obligated to arrest Putin if he had set foot on its soil. However, South African President Cyril Ramaphosa warned that such an action could be seen as a declaration of war by Russia, leading to a "mutual" decision for Putin to skip the summit.

 

As the visit to Mongolia approaches, the world watches closely to see how the situation will unfold. The BBC has reached out to the Mongolian Embassy for further comment, but the outcome remains uncertain.

 

Credit: CNN 2024-08-31

 

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1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:

Yeah, sure, international law lol.

Not something Putin cares about I know, after launching his illegal invasion into Ukraine and committing numerous war crimes. Not sure what you find so amusing about that. :saai:

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35 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not something Putin cares about I know, after launching his illegal invasion into Ukraine and committing numerous war crimes. Not sure what you find so amusing about that. :saai:

The US does not recognise the ICC either. But you know that already, right?

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On 8/31/2024 at 12:57 PM, Social Media said:

Dr. Fadi el-Abdallah, another spokesperson for the ICC, emphasized that as a party to the ICC, Mongolia is obligated to cooperate under Chapter IX of the Rome Statute, the agreement that established the court.

I give that as much chance of happening as of Britain arresting netanyahu on a visit to London.

 

Does anyone care about anything the UN does now, unless it's to their advantage?

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On 8/31/2024 at 8:49 AM, Bkk Brian said:

No, International Law that Mongolia is a member to.

We should distinguish between real international law, which is formed as a result of the latest World War, and the neo-colonial claims of some countries that are trying to extend domestic law to other countries.

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8 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Putin is not going to the US. He's going to Mongolia who does......

I guess you haven’t learned how to join the dots yet. In any case, no country in the world would dare to arrest Putin, much as some of you would like.

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7 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

I guess you haven’t learned how to join the dots yet. In any case, no country in the world would dare to arrest Putin, much as some of you would like.

"No country in the world would dare arrest Putin"

 

Where did you dream up that one? 

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18 minutes ago, zmisha said:

We should distinguish between real international law, which is formed as a result of the latest World War, and the neo-colonial claims of some countries that are trying to extend domestic law to other countries.

Although Russia withdrew its signature from the Rome Statute in 2016, and is thus not a participant in the ICC nor under its jurisdiction, Putin can be charged for actions against Ukraine, which is not a party but has accepted jurisdiction of the court since 2014.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court#:~:text=Although Russia withdrew its signature,of the court since 2014.

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4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Although Russia withdrew its signature from the Rome Statute in 2016, and is thus not a participant in the ICC nor under its jurisdiction, Putin can be charged for actions against Ukraine, which is not a party but has accepted jurisdiction of the court since 2014.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court#:~:text=Although Russia withdrew its signature,of the court since 2014.

Wars are not prohibited by international laws. There are currently about 50 active international military conflicts.

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11 minutes ago, luckymitchell said:

Because it would open a can of worms with tregards to Blaire, Bush, Obama and all the others that started illegal wars

Off topic nonsense. They have no arrest warrants from ICC and its about kidnapped children not starting wars.

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2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

And?

And what you have said is the clear image of the future international laws in case America becomes the winer of the next world war. If this going to happen, all the countries in the world will be subject to the internal laws of America and its direct vassals. And all this will be called "Freedom" in the true Orwellian style.

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14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

"No country in the world would dare arrest Putin"

 

Where did you dream up that one? 

I guess that other than not knowing how to join the dots, you have no idea how geopolitics work in the real world either.  Should stop swallowing all that western propaganda.

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Just now, Gweiloman said:

I guess that other than not knowing how to join the dots, you have no idea how geopolitics work in the real world either.  Should stop swallowing all that western propaganda.

you claimed "No country in the world would dare arrest Putin"

 

Total B/S

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Just now, luckymitchell said:

The ICC, which the USA doesn't recognise.

Covered that already in a link above.

 

Do you have a link to this claim?

 

4 minutes ago, luckymitchell said:

Humm, since when is rescuing ethnic Russian children from slaughter by Azov Nazis a bad thing?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

That's not how the ICC see it, hence the warrant for his arrest.

The ICC, as most people know, is a joke. One of the byproducts of Putin’s visit to Mongolia (or maybe his real reason) is to de-legitimise the ICC by showing to the world that their arrest warrants is not worth the paper it’s written on.

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