Thai Khmer - is it alive anywhere in South Isaan?

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said:

"We".

 

Maybe you do. 

 

I live in a town. I've never heard anyone refer to it as a city.

No, you haven´t. But there is a logical explanation for that. They just don´t want to hear you nitpick and tell your fabulous useless knowledge.

[youreavinalaff]

6 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

No, you haven´t. But there is a logical explanation for that. They just don´t want to hear you nitpick and tell your fabulous useless knowledge.

And that's why you got it wrong. 555

 

 

[bubblegum]

Prasat, Surin.

[Gottfrid]

3 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

And that's why you got it wrong. 555

 

 

Yeah, but I will still call them cities, as only you and maybe one more opposed that. Means you are in minority. Do you know what you do with minority? You squeeze it like a bug.

[Lorry]

On 9/18/2024 at 4:20 PM, youreavinalaff said:

There is only on city in Thailand. That is Bangkok.

You are a bit too strict.

Pattaya is usually called a city.

Wikipedia says "Chiang Mai^[a] is the largest city in northern Thailand" (I wonder what others there are??)

 

A place like Si Saket (or Surin)? Maybe Gottfrid would call it a metropolis?

Edited Thursday at 05:11 PM by Lorry

[youreavinalaff]

1 hour ago, Lorry said:

You are a bit too strict.

Pattaya is usually called a city.

Wikipedia says "Chiang Mai^[a] is the largest city in northern Thailand" (I wonder what others there are??)

 

A place like Si Saket (or Surin)? Maybe Gottfrid would call it a metropolis?

What they are called does not make them something they are not.

 

The whole political system us didderent for a city. 

 

Wikipedia can be written and amended by anyone. Not a trustworthy source.

[Ralphanous]

My wife's village near Sawai Chik on the 226 from Buriram to Surin speak Northern Khmer, but her daughter(24) will listen to the Khmer and understand but replies in issan or Thai(or both)

Edited 20 hours ago by Ralphanous
grammer

[Ralphanous]

wikipedia has a interesting article about this group calling them the "Surin khmer' and quotes census data showing a decline in the number who speak it

Just search "Northern Khmer dialect" if you want to read

[youreavinalaff]

3 hours ago, Ralphanous said:

wikipedia has a interesting article about this group calling them the "Surin khmer' and quotes census data showing a decline in the number who speak it

Just search "Northern Khmer dialect" if you want to read

That's a perfect example of why Wikipedia should not be taken seriously in some cases. 

 

Whoever wrote that page seems to think Surin is the only Thai province Northern Khmer is spoken in.

 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by youreavinalaff

[youreavinalaff]

3 hours ago, Ralphanous said:

My wife's village near Sawai Chik on the 226 from Buriram to Surin speak Northern Khmer, but her daughter(24) will listen to the Khmer and understand but replies in issan or Thai(or both)

"Isaan" is not a language. It's a region. 

 

There are many dialects in Isaan.

[Lorry]

6 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

That's a perfect example of why Wikipedia should not be taken seriously in some cases. 

 

Whoever wrote that page seems to think Surin is the only Thai province Northern Khmer is spoken in.

 

 

Linguists have called Northern Khmer "Surin Khmer" at a time Wikipedia and the internet didn't exist yet.

I have always found it strange,  but don't blame Wikipedia.

 

Surin Khmer is by some considered unique in that it is the only language where every vowel of the vowel triangle is used as a phoneme.

 

[youreavinalaff]

5 hours ago, Lorry said:

Linguists have called Northern Khmer "Surin Khmer" at a time Wikipedia and the internet didn't exist yet.

I have always found it strange,  but don't blame Wikipedia.

 

Surin Khmer is by some considered unique in that it is the only language where every vowel of the vowel triangle is used as a phoneme.

 

Not only in Surin. 

 

That is my point.

[Ralphanous]

14 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

"Isaan" is not a language. It's a region. 

 

There are many dialects in Isaan.

Interesting , its what my wife calls it

[prakhonchai nick]

In my village just outside Prakhonchai, Buriram province, most of the locals speak Khmer between each other. The only time I hear Thai spoken is when a local wants to borrow money from me. I tell them -in Thai - that I do not understand!😀

When my wife and I have been to Siem reap , her speaking the Khmer language has enabled her to enter attractions for the Cambodian price.

[mfd101]

15 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said:

When my wife and I have been to Siem reap , her speaking the Khmer language has enabled her to enter attractions for the Cambodian price.

Ha ha. When I took my b/f (Surin Khmer) to Siem Reap several years ago (his first time in Cambodia) he was rather shy for a couple of days and only slowly realized he could understand at least 50% of the locals' speech and gradually got up courage to chat with them ...

 

What struck me - both times I've been there - was the number of beggars on the street and their persistence. Plus the usual tourists-only scams.

[Ralphanous]

31 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said:

In my village just outside Prakhonchai, Buriram province, most of the locals speak Khmer between each other. The only time I hear Thai spoken is when a local wants to borrow money from me. I tell them -in Thai - that I do not understand!😀

When my wife and I have been to Siem reap , her speaking the Khmer language has enabled her to enter attractions for the Cambodian price.

My wife and I are back in Austraila for a while and she finds her Khmer very useful in Markets here

Edited 1 hour ago by Ralphanous

[proton]

38 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said:

In my village just outside Prakhonchai, Buriram province, most of the locals speak Khmer between each other. The only time I hear Thai spoken is when a local wants to borrow money from me. I tell them -in Thai - that I do not understand!😀

When my wife and I have been to Siem reap , her speaking the Khmer language has enabled her to enter attractions for the Cambodian price.

 

All our older family are fluent in Khmer, not the younger ones so much and the even younger ones are worse. I wonder what posters think about it's future, will it slowly die out? Should be taught in schools in khmer speaking regions is my opinion.

Edited 1 hour ago by proton

[Gottfrid]

On 9/20/2024 at 12:09 AM, Lorry said:

You are a bit too strict.

Pattaya is usually called a city.

Wikipedia says "Chiang Mai^[a] is the largest city in northern Thailand" (I wonder what others there are??)

 

A place like Si Saket (or Surin)? Maybe Gottfrid would call it a metropolis?

No, I would not call it a metropolis. There you probably only have Bangkok. What I was doing, was using regular everyday words for named locations with a fairly good amout of population. It´s like you post too strict, I would say nitpicking. I am from Sweden and there we are calling cities for "städer", which is plural form of city (stad). I know for a fact that is very common in other countries too. Therefore there are many more with me, calling towns for cities.

 

It just super silly to pick on a thing like that. Shows, that the person have nothing better to do.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Gottfrid