Huw Edwards given suspended sentence over indecent images of children

[NowNow]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not the end of society I associate with and certainly not one I defend.

 

But I will accept making a spelling error, something that pales into insignificance compared to excusing and obfuscating the crimes of a convicted nonce.

 

 

There are many ends of society with whom I do not associate. That doesn't make me feel the need to discriminate against them.

Have you EVER used the services of a prostitute? If so, is it okay if I call you a lowlife loser? We can all judge. Just some of us are able to judge more fairly than others. You know....without a left/right obsession or a moral panic.

[proton]

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

There is no such link of course. 

 

Strange that most pedophiles are found with thousands of child porn images on the devices then. Only the crafty ones like Saville avoid this, many actually think there is nothing wrong with child porn, or abusing kids as they consider it 'love' which does not hurt anyone. So deluded and sick are they,

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[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

 

There are many ends of society with whom I do not associate. That doesn't make me feel the need to discriminate against them.

Have you EVER used the services of a prostitute? If so, is it okay if I call you a lowlife loser? We can all judge. Just some of us are able to judge more fairly than others. You know....without a left/right obsession or a moral panic.

I make no apology for discriminating against convicted nonces.

 

Oh and your fetid imaginings of my life are not the subject of discussion.

[Cameroni]

11 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Strange that most pedophiles are found with thousands of child porn images on the devices then. Only the crafty ones like Saville avoid this, many actually think there is nothing wrong with child porn, or abusing kids as they consider it 'love' which does not hurt anyone. So deluded and sick are they,

 

What I do not get is why they would even look at child porn.

 

However, any causal link between pornography and crime is a myth. Serial killers like  to watch porn. So many postulated a linke between serial killing and porn.

 

In reality however 93 percent of adults watch porn, and the vast majority do not become serial killers or paedophiles. People who are like that are already predisposed.

 

Of course a pedophile would enjoy child porn. Most normal people would not and could watch child porn for hours and would never touch a child. Because it does nothing for them.

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[NowNow]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not the end of society I associate with and certainly not one I defend.

 

But I will accept making a spelling error, something that pales into insignificance compared to excusing and obfuscating the crimes of a convicted nonce.

 

Refer to my post immediately above for the age range of children on the pornography for which Edwards was convicted.

 

 

 

Once again, we have EVIDENCE that he asked for material wherein the participants were between 14 to 16. He had no control over the actual ages.

Do you disagree with the definition of a 'nonce' or is it that your 'emotions' are getting in the way of your intelligence?

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

What I do not get is why they would even look at child porn.

 

However, any causal link between pornography and crime is a myth. Serial killers like  to watch porn. So many postulated a linke between serial killing and porn.

 

In reality however 93 percent of adults watch porn, and the vast majority do not become serial killers or paedophiles. People who are like that are already predisposed.

The argument made by me and others in this discussion is that the demand for this pornography drives the abuse in its production.

 

Vert clearly if there was no demand there would be no production and abuse ascociated with the production.

 

 

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[NowNow]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The argument made by me and others in this discussion is that the demand for this pornography drives the abuse in its production.

 

Vert clearly if there was no demand there would be no production and abuse ascociated with the production.

 

 

 

So make that argument, as opposed to your rather pathetic name calling antics.

I actually had you down as an intelligent person prior to this discussion. Now I can see that you are just the mirror image of @JonnyF 😊

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Once again, we have EVIDENCE that he asked for material wherein the participants were between 14 to 16. He had no control over the actual ages.

Do you disagree with the definition of a 'nonce' or is it that your 'emotions' are getting in the way of your intelligence?

 

 

I have posted a link to the CPS record of his conviction - AKA his actual conviction.

 

Were he in prison, I hope for a review of the leniency of his sentence, then he almost certainly will be Not On Normal Communal Exercise.

 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

So make that argument, as opposed to your rather pathetic name calling antics.

I actually had you down as an intelligent person prior to this discussion. Now I can see that you are just the mirror image of @JonnyF 😊

I have made that argument a number of times, like here near the top of the thread:

 

On 9/17/2024 at 8:40 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

As I have argued, Edwards has, as a customer of child pornography, provided the market that drives harm to children.

“Now I can see that you are just the mirror image of @JonnyF “

I expect Jonny will find that just as amusing as I do.

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[NowNow]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I have posted a link to the CPS record of his conviction - AKA his actual conviction.

 

Were he in prison, I hope for a review of the leniency of his sentence, then he almost certainly will be Not On Normal Communal Exercise.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes and so what? He was convicted and sentenced. The matter is concluded, apart from the histrionics of a few.

[NowNow]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I have made that argument a number of times, like here near the top of the thread:

 

“Now I can see that you are just the mirror image of @JonnyF “

I expect Jonny will find that just as amusing as I do.

 

 

I'm glad you made that argument....so let us extrapolate on that 😊

As you know, in the age of AI, we can make lifelike media that is simply not real.

 

What would be your position if all of the images found were exactly the same, but AI generated?

 

I'm glad that I made you smile. It's a discussion. You just got carried away.

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, NowNow said:

 

Yes and so what? He was convicted and sentenced. The matter is concluded, apart from the histrionics of a few.

Not yet it isn’t.

You’re busy trying to deny the facts of real recorded crimes of Edwards’ conviction.

 

Refer CPS report linked above.

 

[NowNow]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Not yet it isn’t.

You’re busy trying to deny the facts of real recorded crimes of Edwards’ conviction.

 

Refer CPS report linked above.

 

 

 

Show me any denial. Just like @JonnyF Throwing stuff out there in the hope that it sticks. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, NowNow said:

 

 

I'm glad you made that argument....so let us extrapolate on that 😊

As you know, in the age of AI, we can make lifelike media that is simply not real.

 

What would be your position if all of the images found were exactly the same, but AI generated?

 

I'm glad that I made you smile. It's a discussion. You just got carried away.

 

So now you move from reality into an imaginary world we’re the crimes by Edwards  we’re not exactly as recorded in the CPS report I linked above.

If you can’t deal with facts and reality, dream up an imaginary scenario.

 

Nah, not playing that game.

 

[NowNow]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

 

So now you move from reality into an imaginary world we’re the crimes by Edwards  we’re not exactly as recorded in the CPS report I linked above.

If you can’t deal with facts and reality, dream up an imaginary scenario.

 

Nah, not playing that game.

 

 

Beginning to believe that you and @JonnyF are one and the same 😊

You aren't 'winning' any argument, you are just demonstrating the limits of your intelligence.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

 

Show me any denial. Just like @JonnyF Throwing stuff out there in the hope that it sticks. 

Here you, and I called it out already:

 

2 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

 

Perhaps you should answer it in the way that you want it answered. You obviously don't like MY reply. So conjure up your own. 14 to 16 year olds really isn't that big of a deal. Unsavoury? Yes. But hardly the crime of the century watching teenagers.

At 14, I was already meeting girls in clubs. 15 and I was living with a woman ten years older.

 

You and @JonnyF have lived sheltered lives 😊

 

A middle aged man in possession of sexual images of 14 to 16 year olds is very much more than “really isn't that big of a deal” it’s a breach of the law.

 

Refer CPS report of Edwards’ conviction I have linked.

Edited September 25 by Chomper Higgot

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Beginning to believe that you and @JonnyF are one and the same 😊

You aren't 'winning' any argument, you are just demonstrating the limits of your intelligence.

I’m not excusing and obfuscating the crimes of a convicted nonce.

[NowNow]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

So now you move from reality into an imaginary world we’re the crimes by Edwards  we’re not exactly as recorded in the CPS report I linked above.

If you can’t deal with facts and reality, dream up an imaginary scenario.

 

Nah, not playing that game.

 

 

I've dealt with the 'fact and reality' that he was given a suspended sentence. It seems that it is you who is unable to accept that fact and reality.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, NowNow said:

 

I've dealt with the 'fact and reality' that he was given a suspended sentence. It seems that it is you who is unable to accept that fact and reality.

I do acknowledge it, I would like to see it increased to prison time, I have provided a detailed explanation of my arguments on that matter.

 

[NowNow]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Here you, and I called it out already:

 

 

A middle aged man in possession of sexual I’m ages of 14 to 16 year olds is very much more than “really isn't that big of a deal” it’s a breach of the law.

 

Refer CPS report of Edwards’ conviction I have linked.

 

I have no idea as to what you imagine that you have 'called out'.

 

We know about the report and we know that he received a suspended sentence as it wasn't that serious. Agreeing with my POV.

[NowNow]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I do acknowledge it, I would like to see it increased to prison time, I have provided a detailed explanation of my arguments on that matter.

 

 

But no one cares about your wild and extreme opinion, other than other extremists.

[NowNow]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I do acknowledge it, I would like to see it increased to prison time, I have provided a detailed explanation of my arguments on that matter.

 

 

You acknowledge but cannot accept the fact and reality of it. How ironic. 😊

[NowNow]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not excusing and obfuscating the crimes of a convicted nonce.

 

Do you think repeating the same thing over and over again will provoke me into an emotional response? 😊

That's your domain, petal.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

But no one cares about your wild and extreme opinion, other than other extremists.

Says guy who has spent time arguing against my opinion, often resorting to slights and emotive insults.

 

[proton]

In a land where people now get years in prison for hurty words on face book, a case involving a nonce with photo images of a 7 year old being penetrated needs to be appealed as far too soft. Edwards should be in prison.

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[NowNow]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Says guy who has spent time arguing against my opinion, often resorting to slights and emotive insults.

 

 

Nope, I gave you my opinion. It's been you who has been resorting to insults. Go back and take a look.

[NowNow]

1 minute ago, proton said:

In a land where people now get years in prison for hurty words on face book, a case involving a nonce with photo images of a 7 year old being penetrated needs to be appealed as far too soft. Edwards should be in prison.

 

He didn't ask for those images to be sent. He asked for 14 to 16 years. Do you know differently?

[NowNow]

48 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I make no apology for discriminating against convicted nonces.

 

Oh and your fetid imaginings of my life are not the subject of discussion.

 

 

I haven't imagined anything. I ASKED.... Have you EVER used the services of a prostitute?

 

[proton]

6 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

He didn't ask for those images to be sent. He asked for 14 to 16 years. Do you know differently?

 

But he had them and did not delete them

[NowNow]

Anyway, time to move on. I've made my point of exposing the histrionics and hyperbole on this thread.

I'm not hoping to change their minds 😊 🕊️