Mother- diabetes

 

Father- old age.

father - bowel cancer at age 35. mother - old age at age 92. Father's brother leukemia & bowel cancer at age 73, grandfather (dad's side) - bowel cancer at age 61, grandmother (dad's side) - old age at age 93.  Me age 74 and still going strong and I'm a prostate cancer survivor, so every day is a blessing. So yes I do pay attention to my health. I'm not even close to being ready to part this world yet.  I just checked my direct lineage in my family tree back 7 generations, most passed in their 70's. Apart from my great grandfather who passed at age 91, I'm the next longest living male in that 7 generations.

On 9/26/2024 at 7:17 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Unfortunately lung cancer is very hard to cure 

Lung cancer has no cure...neither does any other type of cancer, although some are treatable.

3 hours ago, fondue zoo said:

Death

Lack of breath, we all die from that.

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32 minutes ago, TigerandDog said:

father - bowel cancer at age 35. mother - old age at age 92. Father's brother leukemia & bowel cancer at age 73, grandfather (dad's side) - bowel cancer at age 61, grandmother (dad's side) - old age at age 93.  Me age 74 and still going strong and I'm a prostate cancer survivor, so every day is a blessing. So yes I do pay attention to my health. I'm not even close to being ready to part this world yet.  I just checked my direct lineage in my family tree back 7 generations, most passed in their 70's. Apart from my great grandfather who passed at age 91, I'm the next longest living male in that 7 generations.

Your family history would certainly seem to suggest that susceptibility to bowel cancer is in your genes, (just as some families have a history of breast cancer).

 

My father died when he stood up from his chair and his heart decided that it was time to take a rest - he was 89 years old and dropping dead after a healthy and active life is a reasonably good way to go.

 

My mother died at 84 after various strokes.  she had been a smoker and alcoholic for many years, so I don't suppose that helped.  In her final months in the (very decent) old peoples' home. I used to smuggle in whisky for her (alcohol was strictly forbidden by the nurses!) - might as well enjoy your final moments.

 

My paternal grandfather died at 65 of a cardiac arrest, but most family members have been long-lived and healthy.

Mum, never smoked, or drank, died of stomach cancer aged 59. so sad I was 27, and found out she had been diagnosed 8 yrs earlier, it was kept a secret from me and my 2 sisters. I often wonder if working in a munitions factory during WW2 may have caused the cancer. she was a very beautiful woman who also only ever rode a bike.

Dad smoked, rolled his own Old Holden no filters, but also never drank, always cycled everywhere, never drove a car, or caught a bus. Had a mild heart attack while riding his bike aged around 79, doctor told him to stop riding his bike and died a few weeks later from a heart attack..

 He loved to cycle, it took him about 15 min to cycle to work, on a rough track, he would come home for lunch, get all the weeks shopping on a Saturday from town about 2 miles away.  below the only surviving photos I have. (water damaged)

 

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   My Dad died in his sleep about a week shy of his 95th birthday.  He had some heart ailments later in life but was sharp as a tack right to the end.  Mom lived to 101 and died of old age.  She had dementia beginning in her 80s and it gradually got worse.  But, the last time I saw her I think she recognized me.

   Dad and Mom lived remarkable and interesting lives.  Born in 1914 and 1918, they went from riding in horse-drawn wagons as young children to flying on the Concorde on one of their trips to Europe.  My Dad worked for the US Dept. of Defense and the family was stationed a lot of different places around the world--including Germany right after World War II, probably Dad's most interesting assignment.   I miss them both but I know I am indeed lucky to have had them as a part of my life for as long as I did.  

Thanks for cheering me up. I think I'll havea drink and a cigarette. 

2 hours ago, KannikaP said:

What has the age 78 got to do with it. Cancer is cancer whatever your age.

That is probably due to the desires of the individual about going through the treatment.  After my father's first treatment for prostrate cancer, he told me that if it came back he would not do anything except die before treatment as the treatment seemed to him to be worse than the cancer.  He died 3 years later at 76 years of age.  His hospitalization insurance paid for the initial treatment and would have paid for this recurrence too.  But as long as someone has medical insurance doctors and hospitals will treat them.  If one doesn't have insurance they might forgo the treatment too due to the cost.

 

 

Both lived in Thailand and died of skin cancer.....they thought they would be safer here sitting in the sun than in Yorkshire.

Mum died at 76 from Emphysema, never smoked or went down a coal mine.

Dad at 88, 23 years after a stroke.

Mom died of pancreatic cancer 13 years ago at 77. My dad died of old age just last month, 16 days short of his 94th birthday. Really surprised it wasn't the other way around, but that's life...and death.

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3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Lung cancer has no cure...neither does any other type of cancer, although some are treatable.

A lot of cancers can be cured.

Especially with children. 

But there are also many adults surviving more than 5 or 10 years.

A friend had malignant melanoma 30 years ago. Another hat bladder carcinoma 12 years ago. Another had colon carcinoma about 15 years ago.

All are well now.

5 hours ago, KannikaP said:

What has the age 78 got to do with it. Cancer is cancer whatever your age.

No.

As a very rough generalization, you can say the younger the patient the more aggressive the tumor growth.

In very old people (78is not very old),  tumors often grow so slowly that invasive treatment is not warranted. 

Many AN members will know this about prostate cancer.

Mental illness.

On 9/26/2024 at 7:02 AM, georgegeorgia said:

The question is what did your parents pass away from?

 

Mother - committed suicide at 56 when diagnosed with lymph cancer.

 

Father - passed away in a nursing home at 80 from natural causes and dementia.

 

I am now 80 and enjoy life based in Cambodia and hoping to have a few more years left despite being a type 2 insulin dependent diabetic  with mobility problems (I also have a wheelie walker for indoors and a walking stick for outdoors.) 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Presnock said:

Well, IMHO, based on everything I am reading lately, and recognizing that it is more than likely TRUE in every sense, I agree with top researchers including in the forefront Dr. William Li, a well-known Harvard trained heart specialist, researcher, and scientist - that yeah, genes do cause some people to have certain diseases but only a small percentage while the majority of the causes of all the major diseases including heart, cancers, alzheimer's/demenia, diabetes, is poor DIETs.  This is a big pharma and big FOOD industries that want people to be sick so that they have to take drugs to cover up the symtoms, and food that since the 1980's has gone from natural to machine made.  Chemicals unhealthy for the human body, are used to color and alter the taste of products.   These have been shown to be unhealthy for a long time i.e.

seed oils/trans fats - have been known for over 20 years to be unhealthy and cause of cancers! yet only recently did the US FDA outlaw it somewhat.  Researchers are finding cures for diseases but based on food which has the necessary nutrients/chemicals to defend against and cure some diseases without side effects even and researchers are finding with surprise that the natural defense is much better.  In many cases, they are still recommending one to follow the doctor's orders but since the natural foods don't cause any side effects, they actually enhance that drug too.  But, skin cancers, lung cancers, and some other disease is most likely caused by lifestyle - smoking, tanning etc but that is also well known yet people still smoke and still get sunburned regularly.  Matter of choice - now we have a much better choice  and I suggest that people if possible should read the two best sellers by Dr. Li and diets/foods for healthy living.  The books are available in BKK.  Best of health and luck to all.

Sure, you can buy a book. But then it starts getting difficult. You have to read, what is for many here already the utmost torture followed by understanding, which is the biggest challenge in their life.

Having jumped over this hurdle you have to come to your own conclusion concerning your life/style.

And after a few attempts most will fail.

Just use your common sense instead looking for a guide or diet book, which will fill the author's pockets only.

42 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Sure, you can buy a book. But then it starts getting difficult. You have to read, what is for many here already the utmost torture followed by understanding, which is the biggest challenge in their life.

Having jumped over this hurdle you have to come to your own conclusion concerning your life/style.

And after a few attempts most will fail.

Just use your common sense instead looking for a guide or diet book, which will fill the author's pockets only.

well if the majority of foods sold in restaurants and grocery stores is any example of what is someone's basic eating habit, then maybe you should check the statistics of bad health around the world.  Go to any store - look a any "packaged" food - check the label and look at the ingredients - half the words are not English, fake colors, fake tastes - these are mostly poisons.  glucose is a known feeder of cancer cells, sugar and starches are turned into glucose which feeds the cancer cells in one's body.  Cancer cells form as the body replaces itself regularly and a cell that doesn't change exactly can easily become a cancer cell.  People need to be more aware of what they are eating, drinking, smoking and lazy lifestyle which all if done badly lead to disease and poor health.  SInce it is up to the individual to change to a better lifestyle, yeah too many people blame it on something else.  Best to get on the health kick the younger the better for a healthy older life unless of course you want to booze it up, smoke it up, laze it up - then you shall reap what you sow.  Cancers based on genetics are single digit -  now the researchers have proven that diet and lifestyle contribute more to the worse diseases in people.   But, don't change anything based on what I have mentioned, do a little research for yourself... it can save you money and years.  Doctors and hospitals don't seem to be getting any cheaper... today the figures for US health insurance increases for the next year...still zooming. I personally have great health insurance for me and my family - I have in 77 years have not had to use that insurance.  I have exercised my entire life, avoided booze and smoking and have changed my diet as I learn about dangerous foods.  Fortunately I am in Thailand, land of untold number of fruits veggies, etc and having read about foods and disease, I have talilored my diet to almost all

healthy foods.  to each his own.  Best of luck to all.

18 minutes ago, Presnock said:

 changed my diet as I learn about dangerous foods.  Fortunately I am in Thailand, 

Well what are the "dangerous" foods?

You did mention seed oils etc ,I believe you are referring to Canola oils etc

Not sure about Sunflower oil?

3 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Mum died at 76 from Emphysema, never smoked or went down a coal mine.

Dad at 88, 23 years after a stroke.

Wow bad luck with your Mum,sht happens and it picked you ! 

 

and to think your only 23yo according to your profile ,shame

 

 

 😉 

 

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On 9/26/2024 at 7:20 AM, Ralf001 said:

mine aint dead !

 

Yet...

37 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Yet...

 

Yeah, I expect mine (like many) will eventually die.

Mother was killed in a traffic "accident" by a Domino Pizza Semi taking a curve way too fast causing a he'd on crash with my Father's car in 1986. Dad would die in bed of a heart attack in 1991 (Paternal line cholesterol issue).

Father died at age of  81 from multiple issues - had had a minor stroke, had pulmonary failure and maybe vascular dementia. But outlived his 2 brothers. Spent most of last 2 years sitting in his chair, sleeping.

Mother died mainly of old age - spent over 12 years in a nursing home, had dementia and lots of minor issues, just slowly lost the battle, age 93.

Still have one Aunt left, about 90, severe vascular dementia. No one in my generation died yet (13 of us, between 80 and 60).

12 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Well what are the "dangerous" foods?

You did mention seed oils etc ,I believe you are referring to Canola oils etc

Not sure about Sunflower oil?

The number of "bad" foods would take as many pages as this forum gets on tax issues but is at least factual.  The best place if one does read and comprehend ENGLISH text are the two diet books of Dr. William Li

a Harvard heart specialist, researcher and other titles.  These two best sellers can be found in a Bangkok boodstore.  Seed oils are among the bad foods.  Subce huis bviijs cane out as best sellers, there are also You tube  videos of various good and bad diet practices.  The only valid ones IMHO are those that also give the user laboratory analysis and testing that proves the good or bad.  best  of luck as "good" food can also taste great.  To see the results of "bad" diet, google US disease rates caused by fake "nutritious foods" with artificial coloring and tastes while the real food is nutritious.

9 hours ago, Wrwest said:

Mother was killed in a traffic "accident" by a Domino Pizza Semi taking a curve way too fast causing a he'd on crash with my Father's car in 1986. Dad would die in bed of a heart attack in 1991 (Paternal line cholesterol issue).

 Very tragic especially when you were a young man at the time .

 

I can only imagine and none of us would know the trauma , at living with that over the years 

 

I guess you must be a mentally tough person to be able to come through that over the years .

I imagine it changed you as a person too 

 

 

💜💜💜💜

 

11 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Yeah, I expect mine (like many) will eventually die.

Oh don't be so morbid please .

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Oh don't be so morbid please .

 

Ohh my bad... they will live for ever.

 

That better for you ?

 

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Oh don't be so morbid please .

Coming from the person that started the thread.