Macron Warns EU Could Face Collapse Without Urgent Reforms

[BruceWayne]

1 hour ago, RayC said:

 

If you are being sarcastic then have a 😂.

 

If you are being serious, I suggest that you seek help from a psychiatrist or  psychologist asap.

 

If you genuinely believe that "only" 97 women [being] raped' by immigrants

doesn't matter I think death pen for you.

Humanity doesn't need your kind.

Non-productive apart from trolling excess so not really required

Just sayin.

IMHO Allegedly 

[RayC]

1 hour ago, BruceWayne said:

 

If you genuinely believe that "only" 97 women [being] raped' by immigrants

doesn't matter I think death pen for you.

 

How many times do I have to repeat this? 97 women being raped is 97 too many: I don't know how to make this any clearer.

 

1 hour ago, BruceWayne said:

Humanity doesn't need your kind.

 

Argo ....

 

1 hour ago, BruceWayne said:

Non-productive apart from trolling excess so not really required

Just sayin.

IMHO Allegedly 

 

A series of words arranged in an apparent random order, unsurprisingly, results in gibberish.

 

I suggest that you act on my previous advice and seek help.

[BruceWayne]

12 hours ago, BruceWayne said:

 

EU is a united Europe under globalist rule *funded by Germans*

 

The EU is the re-incarnated Soviet Union, only perhaps even more in love with centralised control and arbitrary decisions by the Brussels apparatchiks.

 

Is the Marxist's dream coming to life?

 

Who is this 'European Movement“, and who is funding it? This little-known organisation were financially powerful enough to drop a high-quality print booklet into every household in the entire UK in 2016.

The declassification of formerly secret records has solved both mysteries. For as it turns out, they are connected. In the words of Nottingham University academic Richard Aldrich:

"The use of covert operations for the specific promotion of European unity has attracted little scholarly attention and remains poorly understood. … the discreet injection of over three million dollars between 1949 and 1960, mostly from US government sources, was central to efforts to drum up mass support for the Schuman Plan, the European Defence Community and a European Assembly with sovereign powers. This covert contribution never formed less than half the European Movement’s budget and, after 1952, probably two-thirds. Simultaneously they sought to undermine the staunch resistance of the British Labour government to federalist ideas…. It is also particularly striking that the same small band of senior officials, many of them from the Western [note: this means US] intelligence community, were central in supporting the three most important transnational elite groups emerging in the 1950s: the European Movement, the Bilderberg Group and Jean Monnet’s Action Committee for a United States of Europe [ACUE]. Finally, at a time when some British antifederalists saw a continued ’special relationship‘ with the United States as an alternative to (perhaps even a refuge from) European federalism, it is ironic that some European federalist initiatives should have been sustained with American support.“

 

There is much more to read in this explosive piece of scholarly research (Richard J. Aldrich (1997), OSS, CIA and European unity: The American committee on United Europe, 1948-60, Diplomacy & Statecraft,8(1), pp. 184-227, online at http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09592299708406035#.V2exrU36voo )

 

UK journalist and former Brussels correspondent Ambrose Evans-Pritchard was the only journalist to report on such academic research findings, in two articles in 2000 and 2007:

"DECLASSIFIED American government documents show that the US intelligence community ran a campaign in the Fifties and Sixties to build momentum for a united Europe. … US intelligence secretly funded the European Movement, paying over half its budget. Some of Europe’s founding fathers were on the US payroll….

 

"The documents confirm suspicions voiced at the time that America was working aggressively behind the scenes to push Britain into a European state. Lest we forget, the French had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the federalist signing table in the early 1950s. Eisenhower threatened to cut off Marshall aid unless Paris agreed to kiss and make up with Berlin. France’s Jean Monnet, the EU’s mastermind, was viewed as an American agent – as indeed, he was. Monnet served as Roosevelt’s fixer in Europe during the war and orchestrated the failed US effort to stop de Gaulle taking power.

 

"One memorandum, dated July 26, 1950, gives instructions for a campaign to promote a fully fledged European parliament. It is signed by Gen William J Donovan, head of the American wartime Office of Strategic Services, precursor of the CIA. …

 

Washington’s main tool for shaping the European agenda was the American Committee for a United Europe [ACUE], created in 1948. The chairman was Donovan, ostensibly a private lawyer by then. The vice-chairman was Allen Dulles, the CIA director in the Fifties. The board included Walter Bedell Smith, the CIA’s first director, and a roster of ex-OSS figures and officials who moved in and out of the CIA. The documents show that ACUE financed the European Movement, the most important federalist organisation in the post-war years. In 1958, for example, it provided 53.5 per cent of the movement’s funds. The European Youth Campaign, an arm of the European Movement, was wholly funded and controlled by Washington.

"The leaders of the European Movement – Retinger, the visionary Robert Schuman and the former Belgian prime minister Paul-Henri Spaak – were all treated as hired hands by their American sponsors. The US role was handled as a covert operation. ACUE’s funding came from the Ford and Rockefeller foundations as well as business groups with close ties to the US government.

 

"The head of the Ford Foundation, ex-OSS officer Paul Hoffman, doubled as head of ACUE in the late Fifties. The US State Department also played a role. A memo from the European section, dated June 11, 1965, advises the vice-president of the European Economic Community, Robert Marjolin, to pursue monetary union by stealth.

"It recommends suppressing debate until the point at which "adoption of such proposals would become virtually inescapable“.

"Fifty years after the Treaty of Rome, the architects of post-war US policy would be quite pleased, I think, if they were alive today. …

 

https://professorwerner.org/eu-basics-your-guide-to-the-uk-referendum-on-eu-membership/

 

 

9 hours ago, candide said:

That was the cold war time. It is obvious that the U.S. considered a united Europe as the best way to oppose the influence or threat from the Communist Soviet Union.

 

No difference really - Nato's aim since inception hasn't changed:

"keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”

https://www.nato.int/acad/conf/future95/rodman.htm

 

The Brit and Yank 'elites' are smart enough to know that German intelligence & ingenuity - if paired with Russian resources (Oil, Gas, Minerals, Gold and so on) they c/would form a formidable empire - perhaps the strongest - so it can't be allowed to happen - knowing this may put some recent events (wars and pipelines etc.) in a different light or maybe it's all just a coincidence.  

 

They worked this out donkeys years ago and still follow McKinder's world island theory as explained here:

https://iges.ba/en/geopolitics/mackinder-who-rules-eastern-europe-rules-the-world/

 

Bottom line though is as per Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay (NATO’s first Secretary General) quote below.

 

Same as it ever was.

 

PS. This is grown up stuff so if this goes too far over your head please leave a confused emoji and I'll try to dumb it down next time or leave it alone.

 

Edited October 9 by BruceWayne

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, BruceWayne said:

 

Useful idiots always parrot that sort of line.

 

I believe they should have their internet search histories investigated and be punished accordingly

Punished by whom? Yourself?

 

You sound like a supporter of Chinese style citizen control.

[candide]

1 hour ago, BruceWayne said:

 

 

No difference really - Nato's aim since inception hasn't changed:

"keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”

https://www.nato.int/acad/conf/future95/rodman.htm

 

The Brit and Yank 'elites' are smart enough to know that German intelligence & ingenuity - if paired with Russian resources (Oil, Gas, Minerals, Gold and so on) they c/would form a formidable empire - perhaps the strongest - so it can't be allowed to happen - hence some recent events (wars and pipelines etc.) or maybe it's all just a coincidence.  

 

They worked this out donkeys years ago and still follow McKinder's world island theory as explained here:

https://iges.ba/en/geopolitics/mackinder-who-rules-eastern-europe-rules-the-world/

 

Bottom line though is as per Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay (NATO’s first Secretary General) quote below.

 

Same as it ever was.

 

Grown up stuff but if this goes too far over your head please leave a confused emoji and I'll try to dumb it down next time.

 

"Keep the Germans down" has been obsolete for decades. Actually, Germany really benefited from not having to finance an extensive military, and rather concentrating on the economy.

 

The other two reasons are still relevant. They are all the more relevant as most European people prefer to keep Russians out, even if it means keeping Americans in.

 

Having said that, it's true that the ideal option for Europe and Russia would have been an alliance between them. It would have allowed them to weight enough to counterbalance the power of the U.S. and China. Europe would be in a much better shape and Russia would be like California. It did not work this way, in particular as Russia is governed by an incompetent leader who is focused on the past. (Of course, Western countries also share some responsibilities in this failure).

 

The outcome is Europe being too dependent on the U.S., and Russia becoming a vassal of China. Obviously, being dependent on the U.S. is a much lesser evil.

 

Edited October 9 by candide

[Stargeezr]

I have heard that a lot of Europe countries have been in financial ruins for quite a long time already.

I am glad that the French fellow,  Macron has spoken up. At least he live in the reality of the situation.

IMO