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Robert Jenrick, the former immigration minister and current Tory leadership contender, has advocated for stricter penalties for grooming gang members. Jenrick argues that members of these gangs, responsible for heinous acts of child sexual exploitation, should face whole life sentences, ensuring they never walk free again. He believes the current maximum sentences for crimes involving group-based child sexual exploitation and sexual assault are insufficient and should be replaced with a minimum whole life term for convicted offenders. This change would mean life imprisonment without the possibility of release.

 

Currently, under the 2003 Sexual Offences Act, the maximum sentence for grooming is a minimum of 14 years. However, some members of grooming gangs receive much lower sentences, sometimes as little as four years, even for horrific crimes such as raping girls as young as 13. Jenrick finds this disparity unacceptable and calls for a more severe approach. 

 

In addition to advocating for harsher prison sentences, Jenrick proposed automatic deportation for non-British offenders involved in grooming gangs. He also suggested criminal penalties for public officials who fail to report these crimes and the introduction of permanent electronic tagging for any offender released from prison. Jenrick expressed his belief that victims of grooming gangs in places like Rotherham should be consulted about the creation of a monument in their town. He believes such a memorial would serve as a lasting reminder to the nation of the injustices suffered by victims and the failure of authorities to protect them.

 

"The dedicated grooming gangs task force led to the arrest of over 550 suspects in a single year," Jenrick noted, referencing measures introduced by former Home Secretary Suella Braverman. While he acknowledges this as a positive step, Jenrick feels it is not enough. "Anyone who thinks these crimes are no longer happening is delusional. That view, sadly widespread across the most powerful people in Britain, is condemning more working-class girls to these savage and life-ruining crimes."

 

Jenrick stressed that the issue of grooming gangs is still prevalent today, citing findings from the Telford Report, which indicated that this form of exploitation remains widespread across the country. He went on to call the situation "a stain on our nation’s moral conscience," arguing that it is time to take more decisive action. "Anyone who has read the Jay report would support locking up these disgusting predators for life," he said, referring to the 2014 Alexis Jay report, which found that at least 1,400 children were groomed in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013. This number was described as a "conservative" estimate.

 

Jenrick also proposed lifetime bans and penalties for public servants who failed to act on grooming gang crimes. The Alexis Jay report had previously revealed that some public servants refrained from reporting these crimes due to fears of being labeled racist. Jenrick's proposal includes creating a "blacklist" that would prevent any such official from working in the public sector again. He expressed concern that many grooming gang criminals have been released back into the very communities where they committed their crimes, leading to the traumatic situation where victims encounter their abusers in public.

 

To prevent this from continuing, Jenrick proposed permanent electronic tagging for grooming offenders and a lifetime injunction barring them from coming near their victims. In extreme cases, this could even mean barring offenders from living in the same town where their crimes took place.

 

Based on a report from the Daily Telegraph 2024-10-22

 

 

 

[JonnyF]

The justice system wouldn't dare do this unless the groomers were white, which in most recent cases they are not.

 

Can't be upsetting the minorities, you know. You only have to look at the lack of charges in the Manchester Airport attack on the female police officer to see this.

 

Britain's 2 tier justice system is broken.  

[Watawattana]

The UK's parole system is generally pretty good.  The reoffending rate is pretty low, 0.5% I believe - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0CPJW85Y1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_d_asin_title_351_o00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (beware this is a paid-for book, but it is written by a senior parole board member (Rob McKeon, he's been on radio and tv talking about it, so his name is public domain).

 

Just let them out when they are no longer a threat to anyone.  Same goes for thieves and anyone violent, probably a lot of other categories too.  

 

The criminal justice system should be protecting the law-abiding public or anyone vulnerable.  It currently is not.  The latest reoffending rate I could find is 37.4% - https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/proven-reoffending-statistics-april-to-june-2022/proven-reoffending-statistics-april-to-june-2022

 

The parole system seems a better judge of potential reoffending than, well, judges.

[jippytum]

There have been  protests against the lenient  sentences given to  predominantly Muslim grooming gangs guilty of molesting children  in the UK. 

These sex offenders demand a high moral standard from their own daughters but think nothing of abusing ours. 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

Ten years in Parliament as member of a party with an unassailable majority, and only now in opposition does he start coming up with ideas.

 

 

 

[Will B Good]

 

Jenrick...our very own little Trump......immigrants, criminals, the EU, the ECHR.........run, run for the hills, run for your lives.

 

As much as I loathe the poor man's BadEnoch I hope she kicks his ass in the election.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

Jenrick...our very own little Trump......immigrants, criminals, the EU, the ECHR.........run, run for the hills, run for your lives.

 

As much as I loathe the poor man's BadEnoch I hope she kicks his ass in the election.

 

   What should be the jail sentence be for gangs of men who serially abuse Children ?

   As you are saying that a life sentence is too harsh  what should their jail  sentence be ?

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What should be the jail sentence be for gangs of men who serially abuse Children ?

   As you are saying that a life sentence is too harsh  what should their jail  sentence be ?

 

 

 

Yes you got me.....I think they should be given a rum and raisin ice cream and given a severe telling off......now go **** your own face...... as Musk would say.....and troll someone else.

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What should be the jail sentence be for gangs of men who serially abuse Children ?

   As you are saying that a life sentence is too harsh  what should their jail  sentence be ?

The current maximum penalty is 14 years imprisonment, last revised in 2022 when Jenrick was a minister in a Government with an unassailable majority in Parliament.

 

 

https://www.judiciary.uk/guidance-and-resources/revised-sentencing-guidelines-for-child-sexual-offences-published/

[James105]

8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Jenrick...our very own little Trump......immigrants, criminals, the EU, the ECHR.........run, run for the hills, run for your lives.

 

As much as I loathe the poor man's BadEnoch I hope she kicks his ass in the election.

 

What do you disagree with here specifically?  What do you think should be the appropriate sentence for raping a 13 year old child?  

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

Yes you got me.....I think they should be given a rum and raisin ice cream and given a severe telling off......now go **** your own face...... as Musk would say.....and troll someone else.

 

 

   No need to be rude and abusive .

You opposed Jenrick in a thread about him wanting a life sentence for groomers . 

   Do you agree with Jenricks proposals for life sentences for groomers , if not, what do you think should be a suitable sentence ?

   (BTW , could you reply seriously and not with some stupid reply about ice creams )

[Chomper Higgot]

21 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No need to be rude and abusive .

You opposed Jenrick in a thread about him wanting a life sentence for groomers . 

   Do you agree with Jenricks proposals for life sentences for groomers , if not, what do you think should be a suitable sentence ?

   (BTW , could you reply seriously and not with some stupid reply about ice creams )

Jenick is simply trying to out rabid his rabid opponents for leadership of the Tory Party.

 

The sentence for these crimes was last revised in 2022 when he was a member of the then Government.

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Jenick is simply trying to out rabid his rabid opponents for leadership of the Tory Party.

 

The sentence for these crimes was last revised in 2022 when he was a member of the then Government.

 

 

 

   Do you agree with JenRick on this proposal of jailing child abusers for life ?

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you agree with JenRick on this proposal of jailing child abusers for life ?

 

No I do not.

 

I do not think the sentencing of any criminals should be determined by a politician using criminal sentencing in pursuit of personal political advantage.

 

Jenick was in Government the last time the sentencing for these crimes was reviewed, if there is something wrong with the sentencing then he is part of the problem.

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

No I do not.

 

 

   So what should the punishment be for serial child abusers ?\

 

   ( JenRick) 

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[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So what should the punishment be for serial child abusers ?\

 

   ( JenRick) 

I’ve already linked the actual sentencing guidelines for this crime, as set by the last Government in 2022.

 

That’s what the sentencing is and should be.

 

If it needs changing Parliament can do.

 

Maybe Jenrick could raise a Private Member’s bill to plug his failure to address this when in Government.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve already linked the actual sentencing guidelines for this crime, as set by the last Government in 2022.

 

That’s what the sentencing is and should be.

 

If it needs changing Parliament can do.

 

Maybe Jenrick could raise a Private Member’s bill to plug his failure to address this when in Government.

 

  Currently some offenders get four years in jail for raping 13 year olds .

  That is what you agree with . 

 

[JonnyF]

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No I do not.

 

I do not think the sentencing of any criminals should be determined by a politician using criminal sentencing in pursuit of personal political advantage.

 

Perhaps you should have a word with Two Tier Keir about that. 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Currently some offenders get four years in jail for raping 13 year olds .

  That is what you agree with . 

 

If you are going to claim I agree with something then you need to provide evidence of me doing so.

 

I’ll not hold my breath on that.

 

I would like to see all rapists get the maximum sentence according to the sentencing guidelines, if you have any evidence of me saying otherwise please post it.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Perhaps you should have a word with Two Tier Keir about that. 

That would be difficult, no such person exists.

[Nick Carter icp]

11 hours ago, Social Media said:

However, some members of grooming gangs receive much lower sentences, sometimes as little as four years, even for horrific crimes such as raping girls as young as 13.

 

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve already linked the actual sentencing guidelines for this crime, as set by the last Government in 2022.

 

That’s what the sentencing is and should be.

 

 

 

   ^ There 

[Photoguy21]

Totally agree with Jenrick on this but I would also put them when in jail, in with all the other inmates in general population.

[chippendale]

Cracking down on grooming gangs is islamophobic!

[JonnyF]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That would be difficult, no such person exists.

 

Those memory problems still causing difficulties?

 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   ^ There 

I notice you quote my response to another post but then deliberately juxtaposition it against something completely different.

 

Here’s my post back in context of your question I was replying to:

 

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So what should the punishment be for serial child abusers ?\

 

   ( JenRick) 

 

 

26 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve already linked the actual sentencing guidelines for this crime, as set by the last Government in 2022.

 

That’s what the sentencing is and should be.

 

If it needs changing Parliament can do.

 

Maybe Jenrick could raise a Private Member’s bill to plug his failure to address this when in Government.

A little less dishonesty on your part might help.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Those memory problems still causing difficulties?

 

It seems you’ve lost the ability to construct an argument and are now relying on ripped memes.

[Chomper Higgot]

25 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Currently some offenders get four years in jail for raping 13 year olds .

  That is what you agree with . 

 

Since you can’t substantiate this, do you think you could man up and admit you made an unsubstantiated slur?

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I notice you quote my response to another post but then deliberately juxtaposition it against something completely different.

 

Here’s my post back in context of your question I was replying to:

A little less dishonesty on your part might help.

 

   It wasn't dishonesty at all . 

You stated that you agree with the current sentencing and that it doesn't need to be changed and I gave an example of the current sentencing 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It seems you’ve lost the ability to construct an argument and are now relying on ripped memes.

 

You are the one pretending not to know who Starmer is in order to avoid responding to the matter in hand.