Torrent Download Speed

ricklev · October 24

I upgraded to 1 Gig down/1 Gig up True fiber to my condo a couple of months ago with the hopes of getting better torrent download speed.

True severely throttles torrent downloads in Bangkok (hmmph!) but allows it with a VPN. I use ExpressVPN set to Thailand.

Previously I had a 50/20 connection and would occasionally top out a torrent download at 5mb/s.

I thought it would be much better with the high speed fiber. It is somewhat better but I almost never get above 10 mb/s even with thousands of seeders.

I am curious if this true of other fiber users who download torrents? What is your experience?

BritManToo · October 25

3bb, I have the normal 1000/500 connection and sometimes my torrent speed reaches 15, but normally it's 5-10.

KannikaP · October 25

Does the speed of a downloading torrent not also depend on who is sending it, and how many there are.

ricklev · October 25

23 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Does the speed of a downloading torrent not also depend on who is sending it, and how many there are.

Yes

FlorC · October 25

Does download speed really matter ?

Unless you're downloading full blueray rips @ 40 GB or so ...

Of course I do not torrent because it is illegal , but a friend of mine does.

Downloading is not a problem , but uploading is.

NT really throttles uploads , weirdly enough especially in the weekend.

Hard to get a 1:1 ratio. Or so I'm told , because I would never ....

OneMoreFarang · October 25

It's a long time ago when I set this up, but I remember there are a couple of "special setting" like allowing certain ports to make torrents a lot faster.

I used TRUE for many years in Bangkok, and I never had any performance problems.

OneMoreFarang · October 25

6 minutes ago, FlorC said:

Does download speed really matter ?

Unless you're downloading full blueray rips @ 40 GB or so ...

Of course I do not torrent because it is illegal , but a friend of mine does.

Downloading is not a problem , but uploading is.

NT really throttles uploads , weirdly enough especially in the weekend.

Hard to get a 1:1 ratio. Or so I'm told , because I would never ....

Most private internet connections have a much higher download rate than upload rate. Because most people watch and don't publish. That might be the main reason.

BritManToo · October 25

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

Does the speed of a downloading torrent not also depend on who is sending it, and how many there are.

And where they are in the world.

FlorC · October 25

38 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Most private internet connections have a much higher download rate than upload rate. Because most people watch and don't publish. That might be the main reason.

Yes upload speeds are usually lower , but it does not explain why seeding doesn't start even if it indicated that there are "willing peers" .

That friend of mine was recently in europe , and there was absolutely no problem uploading downloaded torrents.

Same computer , same torrent program.

I wonder what would be less obvious for companies like true/nt/3BB : downloading slow but steady at 500 KB/sec or quick at a top speed of about 15 MB/sec ?

Even if you use a vpn.

KannikaP · October 25

1 hour ago, FlorC said:

Of course I do not torrent because it is illegal , but a friend of mine does.

Yeh yeh yeh

SportRider · October 25

I dont bother with landline. I pay 300b per month and get amazing speeds on 5G with AIS. See pic just now.

For torrent use NordVPN.

NowNow · October 25

27 minutes ago, SportRider said:

I dont bother with landline. I pay 300b per month and get amazing speeds on 5G with AIS. See pic just now.

For torrent use NordVPN.

Nice. Try again with https://testmy.net

What package do you get for 300 baht that is suitable for torrenting? 100GB per month?

Edited October 25 by NowNow

IsaanT · October 25

AIS Fibre broadband. 533THB per month. Should be enough for anyone's domestic requirements.

Edited October 25 by IsaanT

NowNow · October 25

6 minutes ago, IsaanT said:

AIS Fibre broadband. 533THB per month. Should be enough for anyone's domestic requirements.

Torrent Download Speed is the topic.

IsaanT · October 25

11 minutes ago, NowNow said:

Torrent Download Speed is the topic.

I understand but without sufficient underlying bandwidth, performance will always be constrained.

Here's the full picture of what's important for good torrent download performance:

1. Internet Connection Speed:

This is the foundation of download speed, but it’s only part of the equation. Having a high-speed connection (like fiber or cable broadband) is crucial, but other factors can limit download performance even with a fast connection.

2. Torrent Health (Seeders and Leechers):

Seeders are people sharing the complete file, while leechers are downloading it. A torrent with a high number of seeders relative to leechers will generally download faster, as more seeders means more data sources.
A torrent with few seeders may download very slowly, even with a high-speed connection, as there’s limited data available.

3. Client Configuration:

Torrent clients (like BitTorrent, uTorrent, or qBittorrent) allow some customization that can impact speed:
- Max connections: Setting a high maximum number of connections lets the client connect to more seeders, but setting it too high can reduce performance.
- Upload speed limits: Many clients work best with some upload bandwidth allocated to maintain a good share ratio. Limiting upload speed too severely may result in the client throttling download speeds.

4. Port Forwarding:

Torrents rely on peer-to-peer (P2P) connections, so ensuring that the client can communicate freely over the internet can be important. Enabling port forwarding on your router for the port used by the torrent client allows for direct connections, which can speed up downloads. If this isn’t set, the connection might be restricted by NAT (Network Address Translation), impacting speed.

5. ISP Throttling:

Some internet service providers (ISPs) throttle or limit speeds for P2P traffic to manage bandwidth, which can reduce torrent speed even with a fast connection. Checking if the ISP engages in throttling and using a VPN (Virtual Private Network) can sometimes bypass these restrictions, as it encrypts traffic and masks its source.

6. VPN Usage:

VPNs can protect privacy but can also slow down connections if the VPN server is far away or overloaded. If privacy is a priority, selecting a high-speed VPN server close to your location helps maintain speeds.

7. Router and Network Stability:

A good router that supports high-speed, stable connections and P2P traffic management is beneficial. Using an outdated or low-end router can limit maximum connection speeds and the number of simultaneous connections.

A high-speed connection is essential, but ensuring that torrents have many seeders, configure the client well, enabling port forwarding, and using a good router (or a VPN if ISP throttling is an issue) can all make a noticeable difference in torrent download speeds.

I hope this helps.

Edited October 25 by IsaanT

Carsten07 · October 25

It might be the client.

Before i used myTorrent and it was really slow, even with lots of seeds.

Now with QBittorrent it flies, 35 Mb down.

I have NT with 300 Down and 150 up, not really exceptional fast.

NowNow · October 25

44 minutes ago, IsaanT said:

I understand but without sufficient underlying bandwidth, performance will always be constrained.

Here's the full picture of what's important for good torrent download performance:

1. Internet Connection Speed:

This is the foundation of download speed, but it’s only part of the equation. Having a high-speed connection (like fiber or cable broadband) is crucial, but other factors can limit download performance even with a fast connection.

2. Torrent Health (Seeders and Leechers):

Seeders are people sharing the complete file, while leechers are downloading it. A torrent with a high number of seeders relative to leechers will generally download faster, as more seeders means more data sources.

A torrent with few seeders may download very slowly, even with a high-speed connection, as there’s limited data available.

3. Client Configuration:

Torrent clients (like BitTorrent, uTorrent, or qBittorrent) allow some customization that can impact speed:

Max connections: Setting a high maximum number of connections lets the client connect to more seeders, but setting it too high can reduce performance.

Upload speed limits: Many clients work best with some upload bandwidth allocated to maintain a good share ratio. Limiting upload speed too severely may result in the client throttling download speeds.

4. Port Forwarding:

Torrents rely on peer-to-peer (P2P) connections, so ensuring that the client can communicate freely over the internet can be important. Enabling port forwarding on your router for the port used by the torrent client allows for direct connections, which can speed up downloads. If this isn’t set, the connection might be restricted by NAT (Network Address Translation), impacting speed.

5. ISP Throttling:

Some internet service providers (ISPs) throttle or limit speeds for P2P traffic to manage bandwidth, which can reduce torrent speed even with a fast connection. Checking if the ISP engages in throttling and using a VPN (Virtual Private Network) can sometimes bypass these restrictions, as it encrypts traffic and masks its source.

6. VPN Usage:

VPNs can protect privacy but can also slow down connections if the VPN server is far away or overloaded. If privacy is a priority, selecting a high-speed VPN server close to your location helps maintain speeds.

7. Router and Network Stability:

A good router that supports high-speed, stable connections and P2P traffic management is beneficial. Using an outdated or low-end router can limit maximum connection speeds and the number of simultaneous connections.

A high-speed connection is essential, but ensuring that torrents have many seeders, configure the client well, enabling port forwarding, and using a good router (or a VPN if ISP throttling is an issue) can all make a noticeable difference in torrent download speeds.

I hope this helps.

No, it was useless, but thanks for taking the time.

NowNow · October 25

8 hours ago, ricklev said:

I upgraded to 1 Gig down/1 Gig up True fiber to my condo a couple of months ago with the hopes of getting better torrent download speed.

True severely throttles torrent downloads in Bangkok (hmmph!) but allows it with a VPN. I use ExpressVPN set to Thailand.

Previously I had a 50/20 connection and would occasionally top out a torrent download at 5mb/s.

I thought it would be much better with the high speed fiber. It is somewhat better but I almost never get above 10 mb/s even with thousands of seeders.

I am curious if this true of other fiber users who download torrents? What is your experience?

I utilise a seedbox for Torrents. No need for a VPN that slows things down. 10 MB/s isn't bad. Have you enabled Port Forwarding?

Edited October 25 by NowNow

ricklev · October 26

17 hours ago, NowNow said:

I utilise a seedbox for Torrents. No need for a VPN that slows things down. 10 MB/s isn't bad. Have you enabled Port Forwarding?

No. That is a bit beyond my technical experience. I will try figuring it out though.

ricklev · October 26

18 hours ago, Carsten07 said:

It might be the client.

Before i used myTorrent and it was really slow, even with lots of seeds.

Now with QBittorrent it flies, 35 Mb down.

I have NT with 300 Down and 150 up, not really exceptional fast.

That is a blazing fast torrent download speed. I tried QBittorrent after reading your post but it did not really make a difference. Actually I usually get only 1-2 Mb or less even on well seeded torrents, only occasionally do the stars align to give me 5-10 Mb.

NowNow · October 26

1 hour ago, ricklev said:

That is a blazing fast torrent download speed. I tried QBittorrent after reading your post but it did not really make a difference. Actually I usually get only 1-2 Mb or less even on well seeded torrents, only occasionally do the stars align to give me 5-10 Mb.

Do you mean MB/s or Mbps?

ricklev · October 26

5 minutes ago, NowNow said:

Do you mean MB/s or Mbps?

Oops. I mean MB/s.

Edited October 26 by ricklev

NowNow · October 26

Just now, ricklev said:

Oops. I mean mb/s.

MB/s or mb/s?

Please write correctly to save confusion.

ricklev · October 26

2 minutes ago, NowNow said:

MB/s or mb/s?

Please write correctly to save confusion.

I beg your pardon. MB/s

Edited October 26 by ricklev

NowNow · October 26

Just now, ricklev said:

I beg your pardon.

Better to answer the question...

ricklev · October 26

2 minutes ago, NowNow said:

Better to answer the question...

I have edited to correct it. But you knew what I meant though, didn't you?

NowNow · October 26

Just now, ricklev said:

I have edited to correct it. But you knew what I meant though, didn't you?

How could I know? I made an educated guess. But the more you wrote, the more confusing it became.

It's not just you:

ricklev · October 26

2 minutes ago, NowNow said:

How could I know? I made an educated guess. But the more you wrote, the more confusing it became.

It's not just you:

I understand. Thanks.

NowNow · October 26

I would run speed tests using International servers in order to check on the speeds you are getting from servers abroad. https://testmy.net

If good, next step is to look at Port Forwarding.

SportRider · October 31

On 10/25/2024 at 1:13 PM, NowNow said:

Nice. Try again with https://testmy.net

What package do you get for 300 baht that is suitable for torrenting? 100GB per month?

Unlimited.

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