The Dangerous Prospect of RFK Jr.'s Influence on Global Health

[johng]

11 hours ago, RayC said:

The decision was the individual's and the individual's alone.

Exactly the same as a gunman "asking politely for your valuables"  with the loaded gun  to your head...you handed those "valuables" over willingly thus no crime was committed ???

[Jim Blue]

On 11/11/2024 at 8:32 AM, dinsdale said:

Agree. It's interesting how the anti MAGA posters on here have been calling Trump Hitler, a fascist and a dictator yet people were forced, duped or coerced into taking an experimental drug, forced to lockdown and forced to wear masks. When it comes to dictatorial behaviour I think these examples fit within the definition.

All this happened under Trump or not ?

[RayC]

1 hour ago, johng said:

Exactly the same as a gunman "asking politely for your valuables"  with the loaded gun  to your head...you handed those "valuables" over willingly thus no crime was committed ???

 

Nothing like the same thing.

 

And btw in your example a crime will have been committed.

[johng]

1 hour ago, RayC said:

 

Nothing like the same thing.

 

And btw in your example a crime will have been committed.

They held a gun to poeple's head threatening their jobs ,livelihoods and freedoms  how you don't see that is truly amazing to me !

[candide]

11 hours ago, candide said:

The truth about Covid vaccine effect on deaths! 😃

Trump voters died more than Biden voters because they listened to antivax nutters and had a lower vaccination rate than people who voted democrats!

 

The results suggest that well-documented differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republican and Democratic voters may have been factors in the severity and trajectory of the pandemic," the authors wrote.

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliation-linked-excess-covid-deaths

 

Researchers from Yale University who studied the pandemic's effects on those two states say that from the pandemic's start in March 2020 through December 2021, "excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before."

More specifically, the researchers say, their adjusted analysis found that "the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters" after vaccine eligibility was opened.

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/25/1189939229/covid-deaths-democrats-republicans-gap-study

 

7 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yes, you used the correct expression 'I believe' ,  but the actual track record of mandated public health measures is absolutely horrendous as the covid-debacle has shown us now without dispute. 

Business closures, face masks, asocial distancing, mandating dangerous, useless and unnecessary jabs were all stuffed down our throats 'for the common good''.  And several billion $ of propaganda was needed to convince the non-thinking into believing that crap.    

 

And those who did not believe this "propaganda" had a higher Covid death rate (see my post above)! 😃

[owl sees all]

Even after all the evidence is pouring out, from those once secretive places, there are still some on this platform, who think that you can, and indeed should, poison yer body back to health. Be it into the blood via a jab, into the stomach via yer mouth taking in a tablet or medicine, or by putting stuff on yer skin.

 

Nature has the answers.

Edited Tuesday at 08:11 AM by owl sees all

[scottiejohn]

22 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Nature has the answers.

I prefer my Doctor's answers/recommendations rather than throwaway comments from people wearing tin foil hats on anonymous forums!

[scottiejohn]

25 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Nature has the answers

Does nature carry out medical operations?

[owl sees all]

4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I prefer my Doctor's answers/recommendations rather than throwaway comments from people wearing tin foil hats on anonymous forums!

Of course if you are sick; go see a doctor.

 

But far better not to get sick. And better to know what makes you sick, so you can keep healthy, in the present, and in the future.

 

Doctors, on the whole, don't know, and dare I say care, what makes someone sick. Sure, they can read the symptoms, look at a chart, or a computer screen, and prescribe some medicine. But those symptoms are not what is making you ill. They are the result of a problem, and are trying to get the body back to optimum health, by doing a whole range of things. Those things, ironically, we call sickness/illness/disease..

 

We need a complete reshape of human and animal health. First thing is to start educating/training doctors in a completely different way.

Understanding underlying causes not suppressing symptoms would seem to me to be the way to go for starters.

[owl sees all]

20 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Does nature carry out medical operations?

Of course not on humans, as we understand operations to be. But generally to everything living. Indeed yes!

 

If the white-coats were to walk through the forest and observe, they might become enlightened. Then there would be less need for 'medical operations'.

Edited Tuesday at 08:38 AM by owl sees all
correct spellings

[BruceWayne]

On 11/11/2024 at 7:37 AM, BritManToo said:

most of the western world buy bottled water to avoid the fluoride.

Shouldn't you be attacking Perrier/Mountain Dew (et al) for selling water without fluoride?

 

They flouridate that <deleted> too

 

https://truthaboutfluoride.com/does-perrier-water-have-fluoride/

14 Dec 2019 ... According to the label of a Perrier water bottle, Perrier water contains 0.2 ppm of fluoride. Which is slightly worse than the other French ...

 

 

Fluoride content of commercially-available bottled water in Bangkok, Thailand:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25426608/

 

On 11/11/2024 at 9:05 AM, BritManToo said:

 

One of the problems is no source can be trusted!

 

And COVID,  it was just like a normal cold

 

Flouride is an interesting rabbit hole

https://origins.osu.edu/article/toxic-treatment-fluorides-transformation-industrial-waste-public-health-miracle

 

And yep, at risk of another ban, it was a rebranded flu - an excuse to pump new credit/money into our ponzi system and poisons into the unsuspecting (cos AI & automation = less need for humans).  Imho of course.

 

 

[ericbj]

On 11/11/2024 at 1:50 PM, Lacessit said:

Sodium fluoride , 99.9% pure, is dosed into water supply. Talk of it as a waste product is arrant nonsense.

 

In 1966, the Governor of Hawaii ended fluoridation of the water supply.

 

In 2024, Hawaii is the worst state in the USA in terms of dental cavities.

 

Hawaii has the highest rate of tooth decay in the United States for third graders, with 71% affected. In addition, 22% of third graders in Hawaii have untreated tooth decay, and 7% need urgent dental care

 

Give me a break indeed. From people who are blind to facts staring them in the face.

In the late 1970s, myself and others were involved in a heated debate in the local press in Hertfordshire, UK, opposing the proposed introduction of sodium fluoride into the local mains water supply (the sole source of drinking water in those days).

 

We were virulently opposed and verbally attacked by a Dr Parsons, whom we all supposed to be an M.D.  (In the UK the term "doctor" is - or was - generally reserved for those who had qualified for a doctorate in medicine).

 

Someone looked into the background of this Dr Parsons.  And revealed that he had in fact a PhD in pharmacology and was employed by an aluminium smelting company (whose name I forget) that sought a commercial use for its toxic by-product, sodium fluoride.

 

After that exposure, we heard no more from Dr Parsons.

 

But unfortunately the local (unelected) health committee decided upon the introduction of fluoride to the municipal water, in defiance of public opinion.

 

Fluoride, according to information we had all those years ago, does not prevent tooth decay.  It can delay it for several years in adolescents.  But with no improvement in their dental health several years later.

 

Even natural fluoride, the calcium salt, when present in excess as in some parts of India, can cause skeletal deformation.

 

How can the quantity of any substance ingested be controlled if present in drinking water?  Unless one controls the quantity of water drunk.  And if you are a tea-drinker, you are likely getting all the natural fluoride you need.

 

[scottiejohn]

15 hours ago, owl sees all said:

Of course not on humans, as we understand operations to be. But generally to everything living. Indeed yes!

 

If the white-coats were to walk through the forest and observe, they might become enlightened. Then there would be less need for 'medical operations'.

I think you need some fresh tin foil!

[Dcheech]

On 11/11/2024 at 6:41 PM, BangkokReady said:

Based on what he has said, his plan is to stop corruption in medicine and decrease the garbage allowed into food. 

 

Of course there are now hit-pieces in the left-wing media.

As Pharma, the medical industry & food processing companies give more money to republicans & right wing causes than Dems, or 'leftists', and always have. He wont do diddley except groom the antivaxxer crowd with a few headlines, all for the new guy in office.

Like last time Trump regime. They talk about draining the swamp, but that swamp will get huge with two bit carnies & grifters. Give the people, what they want. 



 

Edited yesterday at 12:04 AM by Dcheech

[owl sees all]

3 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

I think you need some fresh tin foil!

I reckon you hold the white-coats in higher esteem that me John. 

 

IMO, most of them don't know what they are talking about.

[owl sees all]

On 11/11/2024 at 4:00 PM, Lacessit said:

I believe public health measures are for the public good.

 

Tell me, if you want freedom of choice, are you willing to fund the cost of repair of your teeth?

 

Or if you are an anti-vaxxer, refusing polio and COVID shots, will you pay for an iron lung or ICU out of your own pocket?

 

Or will you want to use the public health system?

 

Fluoridated toothpaste is a topical application. Ingestion of fluoride is necessary to strengthen teeth inside and out.

Oh dear. What monumental hogwash.

 

Nothing wrong with a public health system, and health measures, if they are run for the benefit and well-being of the populas. Alas; there are vested interests at every corner. And those vested interests result in compromised officials. And compromised officials mean the people will not be well served as themselves. But hey! They know best what is good for you. They tell you so.

 

So putting a toxin in yer body sorts out yer teeth? Dear me. Better to get some neem twigs.

 

Polio is caused by toxins. A vax cannot help in any way. It is not transmissible. As for covid; I'll stay jab free, thank you very much. You can have mine.

 

All my opinion. Of course, if you are sick; go see a medical expert.

 

Nature has all the answers.