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Pete Hegseth-Sec Def Nominee


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2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What qualifications is he supposed to be lacking? 

 

Why does having been on TV disqualify him?

 

I see ice creams from a van, can I be the Treasury Secretary? Can you see where I'm going with this?

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1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

I see ice creams from a van, can I be the Treasury Secretary? Can you see where I'm going with this?

Yes, as always you are not able for formulate a coherent argument, so you attempt to be glib, and post nonsense. 

 

What are the obvious qualifications is he supposed to be lacking? 

 

Why does having been on TV obviously disqualify him?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, as always you are not able for formulate a coherent argument, so you attempt to be glib, and post nonsense. 

 

What are the obvious qualifications is he supposed to be lacking? 

 

Why does having been on TV obviously disqualify him?

 

 

 

You wouldn't want someone with actual senior military experience? No, I guess not, that's the whole MAGA schtick.

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2 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

You wouldn't want someone with actual senior military experience? No, I guess not, that's the whole MAGA schtick.

Depends on how you define senior. Combat vet that served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, two Bronze Stars, and I think he made Major. BA from Prinston and Masters from Harvard, and he's anti DEI. 

 

I think DEI is ruining the military, and that course needs to be reversed. 

 

I don't see the "seniors" seem to be doing such a hot job. 

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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Depends on how you define senior. Combat vet that served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, two Bronze Stars, and I think he made Major. BA from Prinston and Masters from Harvard, and he's anti DEI. 

 

I think DEI is ruining the military, and that course needs to be reversed. 

 

I don't see the "seniors" seem to be doing such a hot job. 

 

I define senior like most job hiring experts do. Actual experience in relevant positions doing comparable duties with comparable responsibilities. Able to actually do the job properly from day 1.

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1 hour ago, pattayasan said:

 

The problem with this logic is all the dems who wanted Biden to withdraw. The title of the article (I never read any NYP trash) suggests that all dems were pushing the line that Biden was not declining. This was clearly not the case.

 

The title suggests no such thing. But it was of course clearly the case they were in public. If not for the debate, Biden would have been the candidate.

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1 minute ago, BigStar said:

 

The title suggests no such thing. But it was of course clearly the case they were in public. If not for the debate, Biden would have been the candidate.

 

And after the debate, dems were out in force urging Biden to withdraw, including Pelosi. It toitally blows apart the right wing trope that dems were all claiming there was nothing to see here.

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Yeah...an inexperienced SecDef might do something stupid like letting a CCP spy balloon take a liesurely flight over the entire US collecting data before shooting it down over the ocean.....or by creating the worst recruitment crisis in years by trying to force DEI buIIshlt into an agency whose sole purpose is to kill and blow things up. Or even something really....really stupid, like overseeing a botched troop withdrawal that unnecessarily leaves 13 US troops dead and $$billions in functioning military hardware abandoned to terrorists.

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1 minute ago, nattaya09 said:

Yeah...an inexperienced SecDef might do something stupid like letting a CCP spy balloon take a liesurely flight over the entire US collecting data before shooting it down over the ocean.....or by creating the worst recruitment crisis in years by trying to force DEI buIIshlt into an agency whose sole purpose is to kill and blow things up. Or even something really....really stupid, like overseeing a botched troop withdrawal that unnecessarily leaves 13 US troops dead and $$billions in functioning military hardware abandoned to terrorists.

 

 

It's almost as if the risk wasn't assessed and they had no clue what electronics were aboard.

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8 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

And after the debate, dems were out in force urging Biden to withdraw, including Pelosi. It toitally blows apart the right wing trope that dems were all claiming there was nothing to see here.

 

Wrong again. As you were informed, that trope refers to Dems hiding Biden's mental decline until they had no choice but to recognize it publicly after it became undeniable in the debate. That tope was and still is valid. You missed the new trope, because you don't know anything. The new trope is that the "democracy loving" DNC and Dems then engineered a coup to install Harris w/o any primary, stealing the Biden campaign money, and so ensuring a weak DEI candidate already once rejected by voters would be put up to fail. 

 

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1 minute ago, BigStar said:

 

Wrong again. As you were informed, that trope refers to Dems hiding Biden's mental decline until they had no choice but to recognize it publicly after it became undeniable in the debate. That tope was and still is valid. You missed the new trope, because you don't know anything. The new trope is that the "democracy loving" DNC and Dems then engineered a coup to install Harris w/o any primary, stealing the Biden campaign money, and so ensuring a weak DEI candidate already once rejected by voters would be put up to fail. 

 

 

They weren't hiding it, most were calling for Biden to withdraw. So many that he actually did so.

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Just now, pattayasan said:

 

They weren't hiding it, most were calling for Biden to withdraw. So many that he actually did so.

 

Wrong. They didn't call for that until AFTER the debate. In private, they knew he was senile, but they were hiding it in hopes of getting him elected. In 2020, after all, he did well just staying in his basement, and all he had to do was read a teleprompter. Harris was claiming Biden had always been fine even after the debate, merely one proof of her basic dishonesty.

 

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43 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

I define senior like most job hiring experts do. Actual experience in relevant positions doing comparable duties with comparable responsibilities. Able to actually do the job properly from day 1.

What position might one have would be relevant and have comparable duties and responsibilities ? 

 

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Just now, BigStar said:

 

Wrong. They didn't call for that until AFTER the debate. In private, they knew he was senile, but they were hiding it in hopes of getting him elected. In 2020, after all, he did well just staying in his basement, and all he had to do was read a teleprompter. Harris was claiming Biden had always been fine even after the debate, merely one proof of her basic dishonesty.

 

 

He was and remains quite capable fo fulfilling his duties. He was definitely declining but not to the extent that you imagine. Otherwise he would have resigned. The dems merely figured that the MAGA hit jobs were landing to needed to take that out of the equation. Had he resigned earlier and given Harris free reign things may have been different.

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9 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

They weren't hiding it, most were calling for Biden to withdraw. So many that he actually did so.

Prior to the debate anyone that called out Biden’s condition was called a liar.

 

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2 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

He was and remains quite capable fo fulfilling his duties. He was definitely declining but not to the extent that you imagine. Otherwise he would have resigned. The dems merely figured that the MAGA hit jobs were landing to needed to take that out of the equation. Had he resigned earlier and given Harris free reign things may have been different.

Had Harris had more time she would have lost by a wider margin. 

 

Stolen valor Walz.

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6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Oh look, its the old British dude sitting in the bar harping about his role in the SAS

Unlike you, I'm younger, shredded and unless I'm anonymous---which I am 100% here---nobody would know.

 

Also, not SAS, but SAC and DDO...different nation.

 

Perhaps some day I'll be a fat piece of human filth like you, but that can wait.

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18 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Ok.  So what makes a person qualified to run the largest Federal Agency in the US Government:

 

1 Annual budget of over $800 Billion

2. Close to 1 million men and women on active duty

3. Close to 1 million civilian employees in the DOD

4. Hundreds of military bases in Asia, Europe and Middle East

 

Hegseth was a commissioned officer in the Minnesota Army National Guard with deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan and was assigned to Guantanamo, Cuba where he was part of the detainee operations.  Also, he won the Bronze Star so that is significant.  Many servicemembers have been deployed to both places and this includes myself.  It does not appear he held a command position such as company commander or even as a battalion commander.  His last military status was as a member of the IRR(Individual Ready Reserve). 

 

Just like you let's see how his confirmation hearing goes?  The DOD is serious business and like many veterans we are concerned as to where the "bucks stops" at the Pentagon. 

 

 

 

Trump does not want a confirmation hearing. That's the issue of concern for me. The man may or may not be qualified, but his appointment should be subject to a review by the US Senate.Trump does not want anyone  asking the man about his plans and qualifications.

 

Secretary of Defense is a CEO type of position and this nominee has no big picture, no multinational management experience or training. The US General staff are well educated and trained. Logistics and management is on a whole different level  in the US military. The first duty of the military is to the US Constitution, not to the President.

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