UK Pensioners in Thailand Face New Scrutiny Over Pension Fraud

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, jori123 said:

If it was a really genuine concern to you ,think if Id read up on DWP regulations,  go on ,its a good read

 

  Give me the source of your internet query ?   lol   go on show it    Could it be the Pattaya Times    lol

 

Why would I make the effort to read up on DWP regulations......one, that sounds like a living nightmare, two, if you already know what the situation is just answer my question.......I don't understand why you are acting like a small lump of butter over this????

[Will B Good]

When Payments Could Stop or Be Affected:

 

While it is unsanctionable, there are a few scenarios where the UK State Pension could be delayed or stopped:

• Fraud or Misrepresentation:

If a pensioner provides false information (e.g., incorrect residency details), the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) can investigate and potentially suspend or reclaim overpaid pensions.

 

[jori123]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

When Payments Could Stop or Be Affected:

 

While it is unsanctionable, there are a few scenarios where the UK State Pension could be delayed or stopped:

• Fraud or Misrepresentation:

If a pensioner provides false information (e.g., incorrect residency details), the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) can investigate and potentially suspend or reclaim overpaid pensions.

 

Not  read DWP regulations yet ?      You have not answered where you picked this piece from    by chance Pattaye Mail ?

 

 " Could or be  affected" are the operative words..........Read non sanctionable/Disqualifying

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, jori123 said:

Not  read DWP regulations yet ?      You have not answered where you picked this piece from    by chance Pattaye Mail ?

 

 " Could or be  affected" are the operative words..........Read non sanctionable/Disqualifying

 

No legal document is going to say "will be"......that is putting a noose around your neck.

 

https://www.gov.uk/state-pension-if-you-retire-abroad/report-a-change-in-your-circumstances

[jori123]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

No legal document is going to say "will be"......that is putting a noose around your neck.

 

https://www.gov.uk/state-pension-if-you-retire-abroad/report-a-change-in-your-circumstances

Why do that? life cert never received.  Think the noose is fantasty         read disqualifying  read non sanctionable

 

give it another go

[Will B Good]

On 11/15/2024 at 8:00 AM, webfact said:

Currently, around 500,000 British pensioners reside in countries with “frozen” pensions, and the DWP estimates that overpayments due to fraud exceed £100 million.

 

 

....whilst tax evasion and tax avoidance by the wealthy is estimated to be in excess of £4 billion.....!!!!!!

[jori123]

Nah only you want links, only you,   The full Monty is better read DWP regulations, that is, not the Pattaya Mail.

 

   Now with the general implications of a disqualifying pension and indisputable Non -sanctionable to boot ,Id say check mate

 

    But yes those on frozen it is a somewhat a bitter pill to swallow     CARRY ON and KEEP CALM  lol

[jori123]

11 minutes ago, transam said:

Are you saying you are that daft you cannot post links, yet you know everything about the DWP that we don't...?

You are just a troll, under izod10, Tiber and now jori123, pretty sad, chummy.......... 

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Nah only you want links, only you,   The full Monty is better read DWP regulations, that is, not the Pattaya Mail.

 

   Now with the general implications of a disqualifying pension and indisputable Non -sanctionable to boot ,Id say check mate

 

    But yes those on frozen it is a somewhat a bitter pill to swallow     CARRY ON and KEEP CALM  lo

[jori123]

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

Is there any chance you could return to this thread tomorrow when you're sober and answer questions in a coherent manner?

 

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

Is there any chance you could return to this thread tomorrow when you're sober and answer questions in a coherent manner?

But you do not answer when questioned where does the information from yourself come from

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, jori123 said:

 

But you do not answer when questioned where does the information from yourself come from

 

I posted the link.

[jori123]

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

I posted the link.

So what?,read it, means nothing

[scottiejohn]

5 hours ago, transam said:

I find it difficult to believe some on here dismiss the DWP written, printed warnings......😋

What "DWP written, printed warnings"?

Please provide a verifiable  example!

[transam]

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

What "DWP written, printed warnings"?

Please provide a verifiable  example!

[scottiejohn]

Just now, transam said:

What has that got to those who ONLY claim the State pension?

[jori123]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Yes Tiber, may I call you Tiber.........?

 

I am looking forward to actual DWP links to cover the nonsense you spout, but, because it is nonsense there won't be any, will there.............

pilot
When someone takes their anger out on you, it can be very hurtful and confusing. You may wonder what you did wrong or how you can make them step it up. However, you should know that their anger is not your fault, and you don’t have to tolerate their abusive behavior.

 

tips for navigating other people’s misplaced anger and protecting yourself in the process:

Stay Calm and Composed: When someone redirects their anger and frustration at you, remain polite but detached. Say something like, “I understand you’re deeply upset over frozen pension, more than likely paranoid but there’s no need for hostility you nauseating dickhead.” If they continue raging, remove yourself from the interaction. You don’t need to subject yourself to abuse.

 

Remember It’s Not About You: Their anger usually isn’t about you. (wish it was,) React with empathy and total compassion. Say, “It seems like you’re going through a mighty horribly money-less frustrating time. I’m sorry to hear that dickhead.”

 Your level-headedness may help them gain perspective and calm down., tell them to cook some sausages

 

Avoid Defensiveness: Don’t make excuses or get defensive. Remain neutral. If an apology is warranted later, offer a sincere one lol. But in the heat of the moment, stay centered.,counting all that unfrozen money ,winter fuel and X mas bonus  flooding in   Seek Support by doing this:  

Get them to talk to a friend or family member to decompress. Their anger and insults say more about them which is true "  thick as pigs.hit comes to mind", so don’t internalize them. Release any negative feelings so you can remain detached and wonderfully gleefully happy with your unfrozen pension well done you, and you especially ,true and in control of your own reactions.

Remember, you deserve respect and kindness, even when the frozen pensioners display are struggling desperately, perhaps doing self harm, hopefully suicidal, with their uncontrollable emotions1.

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[transam]

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

What has that got to those who ONLY claim the State pension?

That page is from a pamphlet from DWP sent to me in Thailand, I have the full thing here, that bit I posted is one page, with the warning on.  🤗

[jori123]

6 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

What has that got to those who ONLY claim the State pension?

Yes he puts loads of crap up, but but but he is the frozen one    Thank God for that

[ElwoodP]

Many name calling posts removed.

Please stop before I need to hand out warnings.

[petermik]

I called the DWP today and mentioned the OP,s topic on here and yes they are aware of it they said....however they advised me to take no notice whatsoever in his ramblings......they then went on to wish me and any other British expat pensioners here a very happy Xmas and prosperous New Year.....👍

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, transam said:

with the warning on.

What warning about what regarding State Pensions ONLY!

I suggest that once and for all you either put up or shut up!

 

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, jori123 said:

Yes he puts loads of crap up, but but but he is the frozen one    Thank God for that

I wish he was frozen out of the forum as he has yet to provide one piece of verifiable evidence that the STATE PENSION (no other credits/benefits/allowances etc) involved can be stopped.  Reduced to previous date yes but not stopped!

[jori123]

3 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I wish he was frozen out of the forum as he has yet to provide one piece of verifiable evidence that the STATE PENSION (no other credits/benefits/allowances etc) involved can be stopped.  Reduced to previous date yes but not stopped!

 

 Imagining the financial loss over 10 to 13 years is staggering; it's overwhelming to even consider, sending shivers down my spine. If you report it, the oap will be frozen as of the date reported; if not, it remains unfrozen without sanctions.

[metisdead]

Some posts with immature trolling comments and the replies have been removed.

[transam]

25 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I wish he was frozen out of the forum as he has yet to provide one piece of verifiable evidence that the STATE PENSION (no other credits/benefits/allowances etc) involved can be stopped.  Reduced to previous date yes but not stopped!

I have never stated pension will be stopped, it can and does get reduced to a time and date, then you pay back the over payment, as I posted before regarding my chum.

 

VIDEOS have stated pension can be stopped whilst investigating...Please plug your brain in.

 

This is interesting.......https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-laws-to-be-introduced-to-crack-down-on-fraud

 

The dots are lining up, jori123 has provided nothing from Gov sources, nothing, probably a weirdo hoping fiddlers get stuffed listening to him..🤔

 

[transam]

Another DWP link regarding fraud ..........................

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dwp-updates-fraud-plan

 

[scottiejohn]

23 minutes ago, transam said:

then you pay back the over payment, as I posted before regarding my chum.

You do NOT pay back any overpayment!

Provide proof from a DWP source, not your chum's so called statement, to PROVE your case!!!