Cooking Oil

[KhunLA]

On 11/17/2024 at 4:15 PM, Jaymatheson said:

Hi,

 

Looking for a decent cooking oil for stir frying that's healthy.  I've been using sunflower, canola and a mix of the two.  I thought extra virgin olive oil shouldn't be used for a stirfry but read that it can be done .... maybe.  Plenty other options out there.

 

Thoughts?

Did we scare the OP off or just too much conflicting replies.

 

OP ... I'd continue using Canola.  And Olive oil is fine, just low heat if using to cook with.  EVOO, I would just use as dressings, as a bit pricy to cook with, and lose some flavor & nutrients in the process.  Also has a lower smoke point than refined.  Ultra refined, you probably lose most of the nutrients.

 

I use it, EVOO, sparingly for dressing, salad, Mayo, and will do my eggs in the morning with a wee bit of EVOO, with butter so better won't burn.  On low heat anyway, as like my eggs loose.

[The Old Bull]

On 11/17/2024 at 1:19 AM, pattayasan said:

Ghee.  High flame point and nutritious. Never use seed oils.

 

https://omghee.com/blogs/news/health-benefits-of-ghee

I use ghee but not in a deep fryer.

[harryviking]

On 11/18/2024 at 6:57 AM, arick said:

Low in saturated fats high and unsaturated fats.  For example grape seed is one of the best better ones for salads. Canola is low in saturated fat so better for cooking. 

Arick BSc Hons 

Read the labels! Do you know the preferred ratio between Omega 6 and omega 3? The grape seed oils are among the worst!

[harryviking]

Start studying on line please, Many if you are just way off----

[KhunLA]

Personally, I only care about the oil, fats influence on my liver, and how well it handles and processes it.

 

From vid I posted earlier, testing results of liver #s, and Canola wins out on Ghee & Olive oil.  Marginally enough for me to use Canola for most frying & baking.  

 

Still use Beef & Pork Tallow for flavor, along with Butter ... moderately of course.  EVOO, I'll use for 'cold', applications;  dressing, dipping bread in 

 

Already stated, Coconut (cold pressed) for 'cold' use with chocolate making.  Only 3 oils I need in the house, as only buy 1 liter at time, as shelf life is limited.

 

Get enough saturated fat in my animal fat consumption, and really don't need any more, so Canola is our 'go to', and other 2 for specialty use.  Low temp cooking or cold use.

[arick]

2 hours ago, harryviking said:

Read the labels! Do you know the preferred ratio between Omega 6 and omega 3? The grape seed oils are among the worst!

Everything depends Read the label. Nothing to do with the name of the seed or the oil Read the labels cuz you don't know what the hell they mixed in it.

[ericbj]

Ghee is made by gently heating butter and then skimming off the milk protein.  You can make it yourself.

 

Consequently, I am guessing that "vegetable ghee" is hydrogenated polyunsaturated seed oil, similar to margerine but without the added colour and flavouring.  Manufacturers like to hide the fact they are selling you junk food.  Marketing and advertising.  (Check out the life of Edward Bernays)

 

(Protein in milk from North European dairy breeds is mainly casein type A1, to which many are intolerant, often falsely blaming lactose.  Most animals, including the human species and South European breeds of cattle, produce type A2 casein)

 

The healthiest vegetable oil for cooking (highest smoke-point) is said to be coconut oil.  Olive oil and avocado oil second best.  Polyunsaturated seed oils are said to be the worst.

 

Note: the smoke-point is not identical to the flash-point, the temperature at which, in the presence of air, a substance ignites.

 

[sangtip2]

On 11/17/2024 at 5:16 PM, redwood1 said:

 

This brand of Rice Bran oil is very good..

 

So what brand is this?

[sangtip2]

On 11/17/2024 at 5:16 PM, redwood1 said:

 

This brand of Rice Bran oil is very good..

 

So what brand is this?

[redwood1]

30 minutes ago, sangtip2 said:

So what brand is this?

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/1l-x1-jaikao-jasmine-rice-bran-oil-i5252707366-s22311902495.html?

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, sangtip2 said:

So what brand is this?

120 in Lotus

 

All this oil discussion is a bit irrelevant if you eat out a lot like i do, thai places will use the cheapest oil probably

[superal]

53 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

120 in Lotus

 

All this oil discussion is a bit irrelevant if you eat out a lot like i do, thai places will use the cheapest oil probably

and the same oil is used many times 

[KhunLA]

58 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

120 in Lotus

 

All this oil discussion is a bit irrelevant if you eat out a lot like i do, thai places will use the cheapest oil probably

Guess the title of the thread threw you ...

 

... 'Cooking' oil, thread probably for people the 'cook' 😁

 

You would be 'eating' oil.   If out, hopefully in moderation.  And yes, probably Palm oil, but does get a fairly deserved bad rap.   Only less saturated fat the Coconut Oil.

 

[Luuk Chaai]

On 11/17/2024 at 8:50 PM, digbeth said:

 

Would vegetable ghee be the same as shortening like crisco? or does it have the ghee smell? 

Crisco consists of a blend of soybean oil, fully hydrogenated palm oil, and palm oil. 

,,,,aka,  very bad for your health

[GoFaster]

Pure Ghee is not vegetable. It is from milk.

The terms "pure ghee" and "cow ghee" are often used interchangeably, but there are some subtle differences between them.

Pure Ghee:

• Source: Can be made from the milk of cows, buffaloes, or goats.
• Processing: Typically involves a longer and more traditional method of churning butter and separating the ghee from the milk solids.
• Flavor: Can vary depending on the source of milk and processing method, but is generally rich and buttery.
• Nutritional content: Varies depending on the source of milk, but generally contains saturated fats, vitamins A, D, E, and K, and omega-3 fatty acids.

Cow Ghee:

• Source: Specifically made from the milk of cows.
  ¹  
  1. Ghee: Health Benefits and Nutrition - WebMD

  

  www.webmd.com
• Processing: Can be made using traditional or modern methods.
• Flavor: Generally has a milder flavor than buffalo ghee.
• Nutritional content: Similar to pure ghee, but may have slightly different levels of specific nutrients depending on the breed of cow and the feed they consume.

Therefore, the main difference between pure ghee and cow ghee is the source of milk used in their production. Pure ghee can be made from various sources, while cow ghee is specifically made from cow's milk.

[KhunLA]

20 minutes ago, GoFaster said:

Pure Ghee is not vegetable. It is from milk.

The terms "pure ghee" and "cow ghee" are often used interchangeably, but there are some subtle differences between them.

Pure Ghee:

• Source: Can be made from the milk of cows, buffaloes, or goats.
• Processing: Typically involves a longer and more traditional method of churning butter and separating the ghee from the milk solids.
• Flavor: Can vary depending on the source of milk and processing method, but is generally rich and buttery.
• Nutritional content: Varies depending on the source of milk, but generally contains saturated fats, vitamins A, D, E, and K, and omega-3 fatty acids.

Cow Ghee:

• Source: Specifically made from the milk of cows.
   
  ¹  
  1. Ghee: Health Benefits and Nutrition - WebMD

  

  www.webmd.com
• Processing: Can be made using traditional or modern methods.
• Flavor: Generally has a milder flavor than buffalo ghee.
• Nutritional content: Similar to pure ghee, but may have slightly different levels of specific nutrients depending on the breed of cow and the feed they consume.

Therefore, the main difference between pure ghee and cow ghee is the source of milk used in their production. Pure ghee can be made from various sources, while cow ghee is specifically made from cow's milk.

If you want to get technical, it is from vegetable, just processed in the cow during production to milk 

[KhunLA]

7 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

Crisco consists of a blend of soybean oil, fully hydrogenated palm oil, and palm oil. 

,,,,aka,  very bad for your health

Originally it was cottonseed oil, but deemed unhealthy, so they upgraded it 

 

[bbi1]

Butter, olive oil or coconut oil. Don't touch that seed oil / vegetable oil rubbish.

[KhunLA]

On 11/19/2024 at 3:12 PM, Red Forever said:

I use 100% refined coconut oil. 95 baht per litre bottle.

0% cholesterol.

May want to peek at this.  @ 21:39 of the vid ...

 

 

 

[KhunLA]

 

[Seppius]

More evidence against seed oils

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14177541/cooking-oils-colon-cancer-young-people-study.html

[KhunLA]

37 minutes ago, Seppius said:

More evidence against seed oils

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14177541/cooking-oils-colon-cancer-young-people-study.html

Daily Chuckle ... oops, DailyMail 

 

They've been around for some time, and, 'may be fueling explosion of colon cancers in young people' ... 

 

Certainly wouldn't be all the processed junk food that they eat.  And not the old people who have been eating it from the beginning.

 

Almost use Canola exclusively now ... oh my 

Links of studies already posted, and healthier than Olive Oil & Ghee/butter.

 

... nuff said

 

Still use EVOO & Coconut oil, sparingly, and not heated.

 

[Seppius]

On 12/11/2024 at 1:52 PM, KhunLA said:

Daily Chuckle ... oops, DailyMail 

 

They've been around for some time, and, 'may be fueling explosion of colon cancers in young people' ... 

 

Certainly wouldn't be all the processed junk food that they eat.  And not the old people who have been eating it from the beginning.

 

Almost use Canola exclusively now ... oh my 

Links of studies already posted, and healthier than Olive Oil & Ghee/butter.

 

... nuff said

 

Still use EVOO & Coconut oil, sparingly, and not heated.

 

Cooking oils used by millions linked to cancer in second study in a week

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/colon-cancer-cooking-oil-study-b2663208.html

 

 

 

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Seppius said:

Cooking oils used by millions linked to cancer in second study in a week

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/colon-cancer-cooking-oil-study-b2663208.html

 

 

 

I don't trust anything any more, coming from US Govt, FDA, CDC, or any other acronmym.

 

Think ... covid & vaccine  ... nuff said

 

Along with, these highlighted words ... some high drama, until and if, anyone reads the last sentence of the news-blip 

 

... "Popular cooking oils used in ultra-processed Western diets may be causing a surge in colon cancer cases, a new US government-led study has shown.  

 

Unhealthy seed oils like sunflower, grapeseed, canola, and corn could trigger chronic inflammation in the body, the groundbreaking research found." ...

 

So, is the 'hydrogenated; oil, or the unhealthy diet of ultra processed foods, people shouldn't eat, with all the other ingredients, most can't pronounce, along with the abundance of sugar & oils added.

 

That 'may' or 'could' trigger ... ???

 

80 whole people examined ... 

 

Did you read more than the headline ... the common sense part of the news-blip ...

 

... "if your body is living off of daily ultra-processed foods, its ability to heal that wound decreases due to the inflammation and suppression of the immune system that ultimately allows the cancer to grow.”

 

Did you miss this part ...

 

... "But top US health institutions have clarified that consuming moderate amounts of seed oils as part of a balanced diet has not been shown to cause cancer."

 

So the headline is completely false and misleading, click bait.  Seed oil has nothing to do or linked to cancer, just the over indulgence of ultra processed foods.

 

That uncommon common sense should kicking in with most people, and that is common knowledge now.

 

 

[Seppius]

7 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I don't trust anything any more, coming from US Govt, FDA, CDC, or any other acronmym.

 

Think ... covid & vaccine  ... nuff said

 

Along with, these highlighted words ... some high drama, until and if, anyone reads the last sentence of the news-blip 

 

... "Popular cooking oils used in ultra-processed Western diets may be causing a surge in colon cancer cases, a new US government-led study has shown.  

 

Unhealthy seed oils like sunflower, grapeseed, canola, and corn could trigger chronic inflammation in the body, the groundbreaking research found." ...

 

So, is the 'hydrogenated; oil, or the unhealthy diet of ultra processed foods, people shouldn't eat, with all the other ingredients, most can't pronounce, along with the abundance of sugar & oils added.

 

That 'may' or 'could' trigger ... ???

 

80 whole people examined ... 

 

Did you read more than the headline ... the common sense part of the news-blip ...

 

... "if your body is living off of daily ultra-processed foods, its ability to heal that wound decreases due to the inflammation and suppression of the immune system that ultimately allows the cancer to grow.”

 

Did you miss this part ...

 

... "But top US health institutions have clarified that consuming moderate amounts of seed oils as part of a balanced diet has not been shown to cause cancer."

 

So the headline is completely false and misleading, click bait.  Seed oil has nothing to do or linked to cancer, just the over indulgence of ultra processed foods.

 

That uncommon common sense should kicking in with most people, and that is common knowledge now.

 

 

I really respect your posts on AN, so cook with what you want, I will not respond any more