Just now, illisdean said:

The jury issued a verdict, and it WAN'T rape. So, get over it and your butt-hurt. It was no worse than a "pat on the bum..." ,,,,lol, You GOT NOTHING as usual.

I didn’t even mention the jury.

 

But the judge did adjudicate and I have provided a link.

Hardly ‘nothing’ no matter how loud you shout it. 

 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

judges ruling

now tell us what the jury said, I have a copy of the jury verdict....do you??

 

Post it here.....lets examine the jury verdict form....waiting.....

Just now, illisdean said:

now tell us what the jury said, I have a copy of the jury verdict....do you??

 

Post it here.....let’s examine the jury verdict form....waiting.....

Why should I do that?

 

Nothing I have posted relates to any jury verdict.

Refer link to Judge’s adjudication that referred to and provided.

 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why should I do that?

Because you GOT NOTHING.

 

"Preponderance of the evidence" ....do you know what that means and how it compares to "beyond a reasonable doubt"...I didn't think you would. Read the jury verdict form....maybe try to gaslight less about what you know nothing about and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

Jury verdict form

 

1 minute ago, illisdean said:

Because you GOT NOTHING.

 

"Preponderance of the evidence" ....do you know what that means and how it compares to "beyond a reasonable doubt"...I didn't think you would. Read the jury verdict form....maybe try to gaslight less about what you know nothing about and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

Jury verdict form

 

I’ve got a credible link to a judge’s adjudication and I never made any claims about any jury verdict.

 

Argue with what I said and the evidence I provided to back up what I said, not what you wish I had said to make your life easier.

 

Left wing, socialist Starmer knows a winner when he sees one, unlike himself. The world leaders are falling in line to suck up to Trump now that he won by a landslide and has the mandate of the American voters.  Trump joked that Canada should become the 51 state in reference to Trudeau worry about tariffs. A joke of course but Trudeau realizes that Trump is about to shake up the world.

7 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Left wing, socialist Starmer knows a winner when he sees one, unlike himself. The world leaders are falling in line to suck up to Trump now that he won by a landslide and has the mandate of the American voters.  Trump joked that Canada should become the 51 state in reference to Trudeau worry about tariffs. A joke of course but Trudeau realizes that Trump is about to shake up the world.

Except that’s the Matterhorn.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Except that’s the Matterhorn.

 

 

 

 

But of course but its still funny.

8 minutes ago, Screaming said:

But of course but its still funny.

What’s funny is Trump manning it up to Trudeau after Melania’s obvious magnetic attraction to the Canadian.

 

 

33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve got a credible link to a judge’s adjudication and I never made any claims about any jury verdict.

 

Argue with what I said and the evidence I provided to back up what I said, not what you wish I had said to make your life easier.

 

Jury said NO evidence of RAPE.

 

Hey sport, lose the shovel ....that hole you're digging is growing. You still GOT NOTHING. 

 

So, here is what I want you to think about:

1. Adult Survivors Act, changed to allow EJ carrol to file suit
2. Reid Hoffman paid for the plaintiffs (E Jean Carrol) legal fees (why would he do that?)
3. Reid Hoffman has confirmed visit(s) to Epstein Pedophile Island
4. Trump is planning to release Epstein files next year.
5. Reid Hoffman keeps saying he's leaving America after Trumps election victory.

When you put it all together, you may have finally learned something thats fact based and not a product of your trademark lame feckless attempts at gaslighting.

16 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Jury said NO evidence of RAPE.

 

Hey sport, lose the shovel ....that hole you're digging is growing. You still GOT NOTHING. 

 

So, here is what I want you to think about:

1. Adult Survivors Act, changed to allow EJ carrol to file suit
2. Reid Hoffman paid for the plaintiffs (E Jean Carrol) legal fees (why would he do that?)
3. Reid Hoffman has confirmed visit(s) to Epstein Pedophile Island
4. Trump is planning to release Epstein files next year.
5. Reid Hoffman keeps saying he's leaving America after Trumps election victory.

When you put it all together, you may have finally learned something thats fact based and not a product of your trademark lame feckless attempts at gaslighting.

Why are you banging on about Juries?

 

The statement I made was based on a judge’s adjudication, link provided.

 

Try dealing with the argument I made rather than the argument you wish I had made.

31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why are you banging on about Juries?

 

The statement I made was based on a judge’s adjudication, link provided.

 

Try dealing with the argument I made rather than the argument you wish I had made.

I told you, stop digging, You are half way to Toronto Canada trying to gaslight your "adjudicated rapist" buffoon theory. You lost, nobody is /was adjudicated, the judge (J Kaplan) is /was the judge presiding over in the civil jury case he WAS NOT the adjudicator. The judge tried to broaden the definition of rape outside his legal bounds, most likely out of personal malice and dislike for Trump. But if forms NO PART of the jury verdict or court filings. 

What happened, but too confusing for you it seems is that the jury found Trump "liable" for sexual battery, for what could be a kiss on the cheek, a pat on the a$$ etc BUT NOT RAPE and entered the decision in the jury verdict form. Capice? Ok, but you go ahead and show a court record or an adjudicators finding of "rape" as per NY penal law and entered against Trump in this case. Until you find it, and you won't....you GOT NOTHING. Get over it and stop trying to win the gold medal for gaslighting and obfuscation.

 

 

Link Newsweek civil tort defN

Edited December 4, 20241 yr by illisdean

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

OK, compare yourself to him. Are you a billionaire and successful business person ? TV celebrity ? Ex-president that ran a country ? Got elected as president by a popular vote ? 

 

I doubt it , you are probably like me someone with an uneventful life that is just sitting here relaxing in Thailand now. Not a loser, but you - and me  - are not in his league in intelligence, wealth or achievements 

 

 

You give to much credence to the loser jack be nimble sycophant! 

12 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Starmer is doing what he must to defend  the UK's best interest.

Although Donald may relish at the humiliation of the UK, it is unlikely that Starmer's words will  convince the Trump administration.

Then they shouldnt have slagged Trump off just because it pandered to the MSM narrative. He knows full well, had he praised Trump in any way he'd have been torn to shreds in the press. Since DJT won all the 2 faced weak spineless are exposed, morning Joe, Trudeau, stamer.

16 minutes ago, illisdean said:

jury verdict form

Read this and show where the "adjudicator" entered a finding of "rape", You make a fool of yourself thinking you can just parrot your MSM anti-Trump narratives and spew your drivel to the readers here.. You'll lose every-time trying to gaslight your way with with garbage the left leaning media activist shove down your throat 24/7. Maybe its a simple matter that you don't comprehend the difference between Yes and No on the first entry in the attached verdict form.

 

 

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3996537-read-verdict-carroll-trump-civil-case/#:~:text=Read the jury’s verdict here

 

 

Edited December 4, 20241 yr by illisdean

15 hours ago, Purdey said:

I can't see Starmer helping the UK by brown nosing. The UK is no longer in the EU so is a much smaller fish these days. Maybe he can get Trump to buy another golf course?

 

The Eee Hoo?

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s global politics Jonny, not the local Comp’ 5th form debate.

 

Its back-peddling, groveling and a national embarrassment.

On 12/4/2024 at 9:37 PM, illisdean said:

I told you, stop digging, You are half way to Toronto Canada trying to gaslight your "adjudicated rapist" buffoon theory. You lost, nobody is /was adjudicated, the judge (J Kaplan) is /was the judge presiding over in the civil jury case he WAS NOT the adjudicator. The judge tried to broaden the definition of rape outside his legal bounds, most likely out of personal malice and dislike for Trump. But if forms NO PART of the jury verdict or court filings. 

What happened, but too confusing for you it seems is that the jury found Trump "liable" for sexual battery, for what could be a kiss on the cheek, a pat on the a$$ etc BUT NOT RAPE and entered the decision in the jury verdict form. Capice? Ok, but you go ahead and show a court record or an adjudicators finding of "rape" as per NY penal law and entered against Trump in this case. Until you find it, and you won't....you GOT NOTHING. Get over it and stop trying to win the gold medal for gaslighting and obfuscation.

 

 

Link Newsweek civil tort defN

For the record: ABC lied, called Trump a convicted rapist and agreed to pay settlement to Trump.

 

Link to AP