What are the drones over New Jersey? foreign spies to Project Blue Beam

[Rimmer]

 

Drone fever is sweeping New Jersey, as new data shows residents have reported more than 1,000 sightings of the flying objects across the state in less than a month. 

Some 964 incidents have been logged in total since the first sighting on November 19 up until December 13, according to statistics collected by the state’s Office of Emergency Management and shared with the New York Post. 

Yet despite the startling volume of apparent sightings - which have prompted locals to shoot into the sky and even sparked the closure of an airport in neighboring New York - officials are yet to provide answers about who or what is behind the drones. 

As the flashing objects continue to circle the skies above New Jersey and beyond, theories about the source have proliferated in the homes of lawmakers and residents below - from Project Blue Beam to foreign conspiracies. 

Full story:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14194825/nj-drone-theories-project-blue-beam-foreign-interference-iran.html

[blaze master]

Project blue beam is awesome. 

[scottiejohn]

58 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Project blue beam is awesome. 

I assume you must be privy to ALL the facts regarding this so called project?

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

I assume you must be privy to ALL the facts regarding this so called project?

 

Sorry above your pay,grade. 

[0ffshore360]

Video taken in daylight show  fairly conventional drones and the  night time ones seem to show similar.

Maybe the ruse is to make US citizens have enough fear to get them to prepare for some event?

Nobody official seems keen to shoot em down with  missiles like a lumbering balloon !

[uncletiger]

The best speculation I have heard so far:

 

The drones are sprinkling radioactive and/or biologically active contaminants over specific populated areas in a deep state attempt to kick off the next infectious disease panic.  After Covid they know nobody is going to buy another pure psyop without visual, unusual symptoms.

[mikebike]

1 minute ago, uncletiger said:

The best speculation I have heard so far:

 

The drones are sprinkling radioactive and/or biologically active contaminants over specific populated areas in a deep state attempt to kick off the next infectious disease panic.  After Covid they know nobody is going to buy another pure psyop without visual, unusual symptoms.

Wow, you believe that, eh? 🤣🤣 

[uncletiger]

Just now, mikebike said:

Wow, you believe that, eh? 🤣🤣 

 

Did I say I believed it? I said it was speculation I had heard.

 

But is it within the realm of possibility?

 

I think if you are the kind of person who discounts it out of hand without any evidence simply because it doesn't fit with your preconceived world view, then you're intentionally placing yourself at a disadvantage to the rest of humanity. I think there is not nearly enough evidence at this point to rule anything out.

[mikebike]

23 minutes ago, uncletiger said:

 

Did I say I believed it? I said it was speculation I had heard.

 

But is it within the realm of possibility?

 

I think if you are the kind of person who discounts it out of hand without any evidence simply because it doesn't fit with your preconceived world view, then you're intentionally placing yourself at a disadvantage to the rest of humanity. I think there is not nearly enough evidence at this point to rule anything out.

No. It is not within the realm of possibility. You only need common sense, not evidence, to not be sucked in by insane conspiracies. DoD is monitoring closely. Do you believe that they do NOT have the capability of detecting the sh... stuff you referred to?

[novacova]

41 minutes ago, uncletiger said:

The best speculation I have heard so far:

 

The drones are sprinkling radioactive and/or biologically active contaminants over specific populated areas in a deep state attempt to kick off the next infectious disease panic.  After Covid they know nobody is going to buy another pure psyop without visual, unusual symptoms.

That there is pretty far off the beaten track now isn’t it!

[jas007]

54 minutes ago, uncletiger said:

The best speculation I have heard so far:

 

The drones are sprinkling radioactive and/or biologically active contaminants over specific populated areas in a deep state attempt to kick off the next infectious disease panic.  After Covid they know nobody is going to buy another pure psyop without visual, unusual symptoms.

Somewhere online I saw a video of a drone leaving a long trail of dust or whatever. And measurements are now showing increased radiation levels in some areas. Maybe there's a connection. 

[uncletiger]

13 minutes ago, mikebike said:

No. It is not within the realm of possibility. You only need common sense, not evidence, to not be sucked in by insane conspiracies. DoD is monitoring closely. Do you believe that they do NOT have the capability of detecting the sh... stuff you referred to?

The DoD was also involved in funding the lab in Wuhan that leaked the Covid virus. Your argument is that it's not possible because you trust the DoD implicitly. Others, however, do not. It's not about common sense. It is about blind faith in certain information sources over others.

[impulse]

Since I was informed in response to a previous post I made in this forum section that "unapproved sources" were tolerated (I'm paraphrasing), here's from one of the wingnut conspiracy sites:

 

Speaking in a now-viral TikTok video, Ferguson shared his professional insights into the growing phenomenon, speculating that these unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) are part of a classified operation aimed at recovering a nuclear warhead that allegedly disappeared in Europe and could be en route to the United States.

 

The article goes on to explain the nukes allegedly missing from Ukraine when they denuclearized.

 

CEO of Government-Backed Drone Company Drops Shocking Insight on New Jersey Crisis Which Leaves Joe Rogan Alarmed – Vigilant News Network

 

I haven't a clue, but that's the most credible theory I've seen, given all the locations in the US and UK where they're flying.  And you don't need daylight to work a scintillation detector to detect radiation.  Plus, if they let that cat out of the bag, there would be a panic.

 

Another theory is similar, but in that one they'd be looking for an Iranian dirty bomb...

 

[chiang mai]

8 minutes ago, impulse said:

Since I was informed in response to a previous post I made in this forum section that "unapproved sources" were tolerated (I'm paraphrasing), here's from one of the wingnut conspiracy sites:

 

Speaking in a now-viral TikTok video, Ferguson shared his professional insights into the growing phenomenon, speculating that these unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) are part of a classified operation aimed at recovering a nuclear warhead that allegedly disappeared in Europe and could be en route to the United States.

 

The article goes on to explain the nukes allegedly missing from Ukraine when they denuclearized.

 

CEO of Government-Backed Drone Company Drops Shocking Insight on New Jersey Crisis Which Leaves Joe Rogan Alarmed – Vigilant News Network

 

I haven't a clue, but that's the most credible theory I've seen, given all the locations in the US and UK where they're flying.  And you don't need daylight to work a scintillation detector to detect radiation.  Plus, if they let that cat out of the bag, there would be a panic.

 

Another theory is similar, but in that one they'd be looking for an Iranian dirty bomb...

 

That wouldn't explain the drones seen over UK sites.

[impulse]

4 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

That wouldn't explain the drones seen over UK sites.

 

It would if they thought that an errant Ukrainian nuke or Iranian dirty bomb was somewhere in the UK.

 

I'm not claiming that's true, or even that I believe it...  It's just one possible scenario- from a guy that makes his living building military drones.

 

And we're just spitballing ideas here...

 

[NoDisplayName]

 

Harris Supporter Sightings in US

 

 

 

Just a coincidence, Shirley?

[novacova]

1 minute ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Harris Supporter Sightings in US

 

 

 

Just a coincidence, Shirley?

We’ll Miss Shirley, it surely is not the same.

[chiang mai]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

It would if they thought that an errant Ukrainian nuke or Iranian dirty bomb was somewhere in the UK.

 

I'm not claiming that's true, or even that I believe it...  It's just one possible scenario- from a guy that makes his living building military drones.

 

And we're just spitballing ideas here...

 

Since that's all we're doing.....

 

I'm inclined to walk past that notion, a dirty bomb in either country would result in the annihilation of the offending country (if indeed it was a government). The global outrage would be horrendous. The only way the nuclear idea works is if one country completely destroys the other and doesn't give any opportunity for retaliation, an improbable concept of course. 

[novacova]

8 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

That wouldn't explain the drones seen over UK sites.

If there’s a valid report of a loose nuke out there, it’s whereabouts may be unknown. 

[chiang mai]

Just now, novacova said:

If there’s a valid report of a loose nuke out there, it’s whereabouts may be unknown. 

True. But again, if the only two countries being scanned by these drones are the UK and USA, that seems to point towards Russia/Ukraine. A dirty bomb by Russian actors is surely suicide for Russia?

[novacova]

1 minute ago, chiang mai said:

True. But again, if the only two countries being scanned by these drones are the UK and USA, that seems to point towards Russia/Ukraine. A dirty bomb by Russian actors is surely suicide for Russia?

If this nuke thing was the case here, then the material could come from a number of sources.

 

But it could also just be some renegade animal rights group looking for lost pets to return them to their owners.

[GammaGlobulin]

It seems quite obvious to me that what is needed is the arming of citizenry in New Jersey.

The best weapon of choice for these drones is some form of DEW.

 

If only most people in New Jersey had at least one DEW, then New Jersey would be more secure.

 

Fortunately, DEW weapons do NOT employ solid projectiles.

Therefore, the DEW weapons would be far superior to just randomly shooting guns in the air, such as is the practice in some ME countries.

 

Still, DEW weapons are plenty powerful and more than adequate in order to down almost any drone of the type people in New Jersey are seeing.

 

Here is an image of just one of many types of DEW weapons that should be deployed to  New Jersey private citizens, or any organized militia that people there might wish to establish....

 

All citizens in the USA, in fact, should be similarly equipped, and I just love this one, called the DragonFire weapon:

 

 

Also, I always find this rag worth reading, from the RAND Corporation...

https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2024/01/directed-energy-the-focus-on-laser-weapons-intensifies.html

 

You might recall RAND, and guys like McNamara.

Americans must be armed to protect against drones, and balloons from China, among other dire threats.

 

 

 

[NoDisplayName]

6 hours ago, Rimmer said:

As the flashing objects continue to circle the skies

 

Super-secret stealth operation......with bright flashing lights, m'kay?

[GammaGlobulin]

Also, in the linked DailyMail article, I noted that the great Gordon Chang, out of Cornell, has opined that these drones are sent by China:

 

 

I have been reading and communicating with Gordon Chang for over a decade, now, and I know his thinking quite intimately.

If he says China sent these drones, then we should believe him.

 

Also, every year, and throughout every year, Gordon tells us that China is about to fall.

 

Gordon used to have a great blog on Forbes, beginning many years go.

I loved to post on his blog.

Gordon is a Christian, and he is a good man, for sure.

 

He returns to China to see his relatives, on occasion, who are still living happily in China.

 

Good man, Gordon....!

He graduated from Cornell, an Ivy School, too!!!!

 

 

 

[CallumWK]

59 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

But again, if the only two countries being scanned by these drones are the UK and USA, that seems to point towards Russia/Ukraine.

 

But didn't you just deny what another posted?

 

1 hour ago, impulse said:

The article goes on to explain the nukes allegedly missing from Ukraine when they denuclearized.

 

[GammaGlobulin]

One thing I worry about even more than drones is the coming age of advertising from space at night:

 

 

What will this look like from Earth over our night sky?

Like this:

 

 

So then, maybe these drones have something to do with Elon's plans to dominate and monopolize the space advertising market before the Chinese do so.

 

What we need is to have laws which ban this time of space advertising if we want to protect our night sky, which belongs to everyone, and not just to billionaires intent on increasing their wealth.

 

 

 

 

[novacova]

23 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

If he says China sent these drones, then we should believe him.

But he didn’t say that China did send the drones, now did he?

[GammaGlobulin]

9 minutes ago, novacova said:

But he didn’t say that China did send the drones, now did he?

 

What he actually said can be viewed HERE:

 

 

He said this drone operation is too big to not be a foreign power's doing.

 

He said it could be Iran.  It could be Iran in connection with China.

 

 

[novacova]

Keep your heads…

 

[ChaiyaTH]

The latest conspiracy was that it could be military drones sniffing to find something and stories of a missing nuke head from ukraine. Few valid points being at least that 1) these drones can't go long without recharge if not aliens 2) to fly at night for sight, would make each one very expensive in terms of thermal camera gear. 

They also depart and land from land for sure.