Transparency - the day that AI changed American politics forever.

[theblether]

I find it interesting that people are enraged by the idea of transparency. American politics will never be the same again for one simple reason - Artificial Intelligence read the entire spending bill just blocked in Congress in seconds and summarized the contents, To put that into perspective the spending bill was 1500 pages of dense legalese. 

 

One of the provisions was a vast increase in pay for Congress as well as enhanced health benefits. X users cracked - the spending bill was ripped to pieces in realtime. This is a genuine "for the people" moment as people were able to track exactly what Congress was proposing. The amazing thing? Dick Durbin, one of the most senior Democrats, had no idea that the pay increase was part of the bill. 

 

I can see some friction points in regards to the inclusion of AI in the body politic, but exposing pork barrel and stupid policies before a vote can only be a good thing. 

 

 

[Airalee]

No more of this….

 

 

[theblether]

And I note the Democrats new attack line, describing Musk as "President Musk." They are enraged that he has brought upon them the one thing they could not afford to lose - the end of their grip on the news narrative. 

 

$44 billion for Twitter was cheap. And Grok AI alone ( part of Twitter ) has already changed the political narrative. 

[theblether]

Just now, Airalee said:

No more of this….

 

 

 

Yup, those days are gone. That will never happen again. 

 

[Airalee]

5 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Yup, those days are gone. That will never happen again. 

 

Wait for her to start screeching that AI is a “threat to democracy” 😄

[theblether]

5 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Wait for her to start screeching that AI is a “threat to democracy” 😄

 

Yup, that line will be along in five minutes 555

 

Anyway, today ( US time ) is the first day in the history of the US that the American public got access to an entire spending bill before the vote. It doesn't matter of you are a Dem or Republican, that's a big deal. So I'm going to say: 

 

Congratulations, USA. 

[expat_4_life]

28 minutes ago, theblether said:

Anyway, today ( US time ) is the first day in the history of the US that the American public got access to an entire spending bill before the vote. It doesn't matter of you are a Dem or Republican, that's a big deal. So I'm going to say: 

 

Congratulations, USA. 

 

Too right, no more "business as usual ".

it is also another blow to the credibility of the MSM.  The politicians will bend to the will of their constituents who will not be swayed by the "prevailing narratives" without their consent any longer.  The representatives that fail to learn this quickly will find themselves replaced. 

I'm optimistic about the future for the first time in decades,

[candide]

2 hours ago, theblether said:

I find it interesting that people are enraged by the idea of transparency. American politics will never be the same again for one simple reason - Artificial Intelligence read the entire spending bill just blocked in Congress in seconds and summarized the contents, To put that into perspective the spending bill was 1500 pages of dense legalese. 

 

One of the provisions was a vast increase in pay for Congress as well as enhanced health benefits. X users cracked - the spending bill was ripped to pieces in realtime. This is a genuine "for the people" moment as people were able to track exactly what Congress was proposing. The amazing thing? Dick Durbin, one of the most senior Democrats, had no idea that the pay increase was part of the bill. 

 

I can see some friction points in regards to the inclusion of AI in the body politic, but exposing pork barrel and stupid policies before a vote can only be a good thing. 

 

 

It's been already provided by Politico for one year. 

https://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-press/2024/01/17/politico-launches-ai-generated-bill-summaries-available-to-politico-pro-subscribers-00136126

 

[candide]

2 hours ago, theblether said:

I find it interesting that people are enraged by the idea of transparency. American politics will never be the same again for one simple reason - Artificial Intelligence read the entire spending bill just blocked in Congress in seconds and summarized the contents, To put that into perspective the spending bill was 1500 pages of dense legalese. 

 

One of the provisions was a vast increase in pay for Congress as well as enhanced health benefits. X users cracked - the spending bill was ripped to pieces in realtime. This is a genuine "for the people" moment as people were able to track exactly what Congress was proposing. The amazing thing? Dick Durbin, one of the most senior Democrats, had no idea that the pay increase was part of the bill. 

 

I can see some friction points in regards to the inclusion of AI in the body politic, but exposing pork barrel and stupid policies before a vote can only be a good thing. 

 

 

What was the "vast increase" proposed? Any source?

[theblether]

47 minutes ago, candide said:

It's been already provided by Politico for one year. 

https://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-press/2024/01/17/politico-launches-ai-generated-bill-summaries-available-to-politico-pro-subscribers-00136126

 

 

Do you subscribe to Politico? The difference here is that the more controversial aspects of the bill were exposed to a worldwide audience in minutes. 

[theblether]

46 minutes ago, candide said:

What was the "vast increase" proposed? Any source?

 

4% pay increase plus the added value of Healthcare package - the type of value that working class Americans will not see in the current economy. 

 

Man, the Healthcare alone is worth a fortune. 

[impulse]

I've got my fingers crossed that Musk and Ramaswamy can turn AI loose to figure out where all the money's being spent.  It's virtually impossible to correlate across agencies, with a lot of that spending redundant or just plain corrupt.  But they need political support, lest they be prosecuted (or worse) for whistleblowing.

I'd like to see simple bullet points...  Here's what's being spent on illegals.  Here's what's being spent on DEI.    Here's what's being spent on elective medical procedures.  Here's what's being spent on adults that have never worked a day in their lives...

 

[riclag]

3 hours ago, theblether said:

And I note the Democrats new attack line, describing Musk as "President Musk." They are enraged that he has brought upon them the one thing they could not afford to lose - the end of their grip on the news narrative. 

 

$44 billion for Twitter was cheap. And Grok AI alone ( part of Twitter ) has already changed the political narrative. 

The Washington Establishment , Uniparty, Corporate Media , be like …

 

We  don’t like Elon cause he makes our us  cry, Musketeers .

[theblether]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

I've got my fingers crossed that Musk and Ramaswamy can turn AI loose to figure out where all the money's being spent.  It's virtually impossible to correlate across agencies, with a lot of that spending redundant or just plain corrupt.  But they need political support, lest they be prosecuted (or worse) for whistleblowing.

I'd like to see simple bullet points...  Here's what's being spent on illegals.  Here's what's being spent on DEI.    Here's what's being spent on elective medical procedures.  Here's what's being spent on adults that have never worked a day in their lives...

 

 

The spending bill was reduced to bullet points by Grok AI. I have no doubt that DOGE will submit every government budget it can to AI inspection. On top of that private individuals, DOGE volunteers and organisations such as Judicial Watch will be all over the spending plans like a rash. 

 

The only genuine - and to be fair - necessary objection - would be spending related to national security issues. We can't be having the Chinese know about secretly funded weapons programs. These are the types of black holes that the "deep state" can burrow into.   

[lou norman]

We really don't need elections in America anymore , we have billionaires. Vox Populi, Elon.

[TedG]

5 minutes ago, lou norman said:

We really don't need elections in America anymore , we have billionaires. Vox Populi, Elon.

 

You people are sore losers. 

[bubblegum]

AI and Musk ruling the US. And you all go along with it like lemmings from a cliff. Well deserved catastrophe. 

[blaze master]

13 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

AI and Musk ruling the US. And you all go along with it like lemmings from a cliff. Well deserved catastrophe. 

 

Still angry about the election results eh bro.

[blaze master]

16 hours ago, candide said:

What was the "vast increase" proposed? Any source?

 

The source is the Bill. Thought that was brutally obvious.

[theblether]

20 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

AI and Musk ruling the US. And you all go along with it like lemmings from a cliff. Well deserved catastrophe. 

 

Utter nonsense.  The Democrats are in control today. The true lemmings are people like you that object to being informed where your money is spent. 

 

Shameful and quite frankly, stupid. 

[lou norman]

1 hour ago, TedG said:

 

You people are sore losers. 

I am unsure about the sore part, but I agree that anytime money is involved in elections, the people are the losers.

[jerrymahoney]

Without getting into the minutiae, I hope those in the disaster areas of very Republican western NC, GA, SC and Florida can get some/more relief without undo waiting.

[bubblegum]

3 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Utter nonsense.  The Democrats are in control today. The true lemmings are people like you that object to being informed where your money is spent. 

 

Shameful and quite frankly, stupid. 

Tell that to Mike Johnson

[fvw53]

This discussion should be done under "World News" / indeed the topic has nothing to do with ASEAN news

[alanrchase]

AI got it wrong. Questioning the credibility of MSM after this OP is a joke. The 40% came from an X (tweet) by Musk, there is no truth to it. Congress have not had a raise since 2009, they voted not to recieve the raises that were due. This year the raise would be 3.8% if they chose to take one. Begs the question to what the AI actually reviewed.

[theblether]

2 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Tell that to Mike Johnson

 

Mike Johnson needs to answer for trying to give Congress immunity from investigation. It was a wild inclusion in the bill, utterly scandalous and he should resign for that alone. 

[theblether]

57 minutes ago, alanrchase said:

AI got it wrong. Questioning the credibility of MSM after this OP is a joke. The 40% came from an X (tweet) by Musk, there is no truth to it. Congress have not had a raise since 2009, they voted not to recieve the raises that were due. This year the raise would be 3.8% if they chose to take one. Begs the question to what the AI actually reviewed.

 

You've called that wrong. It wasn't AI that came up with the figure. Investigate further and feel free to report back. 

 

 

[alanrchase]

50 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

You've called that wrong. It wasn't AI that came up with the figure. Investigate further and feel free to report back. 

 

 

That's why I said the figure of 40%, which is what seems to be getting social media in a tizzy, was from a X by Musk. Are you saying the social media frenzy was over a raise of 4% which would be their first raise since 2009? Do you consider 4% over the last 15 years to be a vast increase in pay? Maybe you are getting several different reports confused?

[candide]

33 minutes ago, alanrchase said:

That's why I said the figure of 40%, which is what seems to be getting social media in a tizzy, was from a X by Musk. Are you saying the social media frenzy was over a raise of 4% which would be their first raise since 2009? Do you consider 4% over the last 15 years to be a vast increase in pay? Maybe you are getting several different reports confused?

Exactly. Musk lied about it and the sheeps beljeved it... It seems he has learned from his master

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/12/congress-not-proposing-to-give-themselves-40-raise/

[Dan O]

On 12/19/2024 at 10:58 AM, Airalee said:

No more of this….

 

 

That same issue is on both side of the line so its a good thing for the people and isnt a GOP or DEM gain but one for the public. Im sure both sides will come up with some type of work around