Is Earth round or flat ?

[Skeptic7]

"I Don't Know" was intentionally not included. For those potential "I Don't Knows"...please choose one of the 2 answers which most aligns with your thinking on this subject.

[dinsdale]

How about does god exist? Very similar in that there is no evidence to support either. A flat earth or the existence of god/gods. Absolutely ZERO evidence based on science.

[KannikaP]

Of course it is round, watch any Santa movie.

[KannikaP]

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

How about does god exist? Very similar in that there is no evidence to support either. A flat earth or the existence of god/gods. Absolutely ZERO evidence based on science.

I think that photos/videos taken from space vehicles do prove the Earth is a globe.

The Bible or Koran etc  DO NOT prove the existence of God. But if there is one, why did He! make all other planets, stars etc globular?

[Hummin]

The earth is irregularly shaped ellipsoid

 

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/earth-round.html

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

How about does god exist? Very similar in that there is no evidence to support either. A flat earth or the existence of god/gods. Absolutely ZERO evidence based on science.

 

There is nothing that proves we are existing at all. Just an alternate world in an alternate dimension.

 

In my illusion, the earth and universe exists. 

[Skeptic7]

13 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

How about does god exist? Very similar in that there is no evidence to support either. A flat earth or the existence of god/gods. Absolutely ZERO evidence based on science.

I raised that question over 5 years ago...

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1097038-poll-god-beliefyes-or-no/

[Skeptic7]

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

There is nothing that proves we are existing at all. Just an alternate world in an alternate dimension.

 

In my illusion, the earth and universe exists. 

Haha but in your illusion...is it round/spherical/ellipsoid or is it a pancake❓🤣

[rattlesnake]

Use common sense, be objective and rational. This was taken from a balloon at 121,000 feet.

 

How do you reconcile what you see with the heliocentric model, which posits that we are on a ball spinning on its axis at 1,000 mph as it revolves around the sun at 66,600 mph, while the Sun itself (and therefore we) are shooting through space at 450,000 mph?

 

 

[Hummin]

Just now, Skeptic7 said:

Haha but in your illusion...is it round/spherical/ellipsoid or is it a pancake❓🤣

I still believe in science, approved science, so?

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Use common sense, be objective and rational. This was taken from a balloon at 121,000 feet.

 

How do you reconcile what you see with the heliocentric model, which posits that we are on a ball spinning on its axis at 1,000 mph as it revolves around the sun at 66,600 mph, while the Sun itself (and therefore we) are shooting through space at 450,000 mph?

 

 

How high do you think 121 000 feet is? 

 

Be realistic now thinking of center of earth to surface. 

 

How far from earth do you think space shuttle is from surface of earth in comparison 

[rattlesnake]

26 minutes ago, Hummin said:

How high do you think 121 000 feet is? 

 

Be realistic now thinking of center of earth to surface. 

 

How far from earth do you think space shuttle is from surface of earth in comparison 

 

So your logic is that it is normal for Earth to appear flat at 121,000 feet.

 

Here is footage of someone jumping from 42,000 feet. The Earth appears curved.

 

How do you explain that?

 

 

[Hummin]

Well depends on your focal length on you camera which is called lens distortion.

 

We jump with fish eye to photograph and film close objects or people in free fall to get good close up pictures amd movie fit everyone in one frame.

 

A fisheye lens is an ultra wide-angle lens that produces strong visual distortion intended to create a wide panoramic or hemispherical image. Fisheye lenses achieve extremely wide angles of view, well beyond any rectilinear lens

[WorriedNoodle]

56 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Haha but in your illusion...is it round/spherical/ellipsoid or is it a pancake❓🤣

Its none of those. Its a geoid.

[Hummin]

10 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

So your logic is that it is normal for Earth to appear flat at 121,000 feet.

 

Here is footage of someone jumping from 42,000 feet. The Earth appears curved.

 

How do you explain that?

Just understand the dimensions we are talking about. "120 000" feet is just a flee jump from earth. 

From center of earth to surface 6 371km

 

Spacestation 400km

"Space" starts 100km

Distance moon 384 000km

 

[rattlesnake]

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Well depends on your focal length on you camera which is called lens distortion.

 

We jump with fish eye to photograph and film close objects or people in free fall to get good close up pictures amd movie fit everyone in one frame.

 

A fisheye lens is an ultra wide-angle lens that produces strong visual distortion intended to create a wide panoramic or hemispherical image. Fisheye lenses achieve extremely wide angles of view, well beyond any rectilinear lens

 

Exactly, the curve we see on the second video is caused by a fisheye lens. With a normal lens or to the naked eye, it would appear flat.

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

Its none of those. Its a geoid.

We better call it round

 

"More accurately, the shape of the Earth is an ellipsoid, sometimes referred to as a spheroid. While ellipsoids are round and smooth like spheres, they are not symmetrical when divided in all directions"

 

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Exactly, the curve we see on the second video is caused by a fisheye lens. With a normal lens or to the naked eye, it would appear flat.

Still you forget about the dimensions we are talking here, and no, there is curves to the naked eye

[rattlesnake]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Just understand the dimensions we are talking about. "120 000" feet is just a flee jump from earth. 

From center of earth to surface 6 371km

 

Spacestation 400km

"Space" starts 100km

Distance moon 384 000km

 

 

I understand.

 

121,000 feet is 36 km. From what altitude do you posit the Earth would cease to appear flat and become spherical?

[0ffshore360]

I have been told the earth is  roundish . Not circular. Not  flat. It has  bulges.

Mother earth  has bulges.

I often tell my wife it's a normal situation.

[Hummin]

8 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I understand.

 

121,000 feet is 36 km. From what altitude do you posit the Earth would cease to appear flat and become spherical?

With the naked eye science says.

 

Do you believe we have a.space station? Going around the earth? 

 

 flying at 35,000 feet on a clear day and with at least a 60-degree field of view will be able to discern the curve

 

https://opg.optica.org/ao/abstract.cfm?uri=ao-47-34-H39

[rattlesnake]

14 minutes ago, Hummin said:

With the naked eye science says.

 

Do you believe we have a.space station? Going around the earth? 

 

 flying at 35,000 feet on a clear day and with at least a 60-degree field of view will be able to discern the curve

 

https://opg.optica.org/ao/abstract.cfm?uri=ao-47-34-H39

 

I think there is no ISS and it is all fake. And it's not very professional work, most of the time.

 

Example glitch:

 

 

 

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I think there is no ISS and it is all fake. And it's not very professional work, most of the time.

 

Example glitch:

 

 

 

Oh, no

 

 

[rattlesnake]

"Science says…"

 

I think this is the core issue, coming to terms with the fact that "science", and everything it entails, is just one big hoax. I have presented you with a contradiction in your premise by showing you footage at 121,000 feet where the Earth appears flat.

 

The last guy I had this conversation with, on another forum, had the honesty of actually trying to explain the heliocentric model (rather than just laughing and/or dropping insults and leaving the discussion as most people do). After some time on Google, he finally admitted to me that it was "too vast for the human mind to comprehend" and that was why we have the "NASA experts".

 

Delegating our elementary common sense to authorities who decide for us what is or isn't true, such is, I believe, the greatest issue of the modern age.

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

How high do you think 121 000 feet is? 

 

Be realistic now thinking of center of earth to surface. 

 

How far from earth do you think space shuttle is from surface of earth in comparison 

Space Shuttle stopped many years ago. You mean I S S ?

I know I am a pedantic one.

[Hummin]

Just now, KannikaP said:

Space Shuttle stopped many years ago. You mean I S S ?

I know I am a pedantic one.

You are right, space station ISS

 

 

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

"Science says…"

 

I think this is the core issue, coming to terms with the fact that "science", and everything it entails, is just one big hoax. I have presented you with a contradiction in your premise by showing you footage at 121,000 feet where the Earth appears flat.

 

The last guy I had this conversation with, on another forum, had the honesty of actually trying to explain the heliocentric model (rather than just laughing and/or dropping insults and leaving the discussion as most people do). After some time on Google, he finally admitted to me that it was "too vast for the human mind to comprehend" and that was why we have the "NASA experts".

 

Delegating our elementary common sense to authorities who decide for us what is or isn't true, such is, I believe, the greatest issue of the modern age.

You know what a photo is, and lenses, so I seriously do not understand why we have this conversation. 

 

And your claims and proofs is ridiculous 

[KannikaP]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

You are right, space station ISS

 

 

And it is going round and round the spherical Earth every 90 minutes or so. Right again?

[Hummin]

The information is here, first hand from Nasa

 

https://www.nasa.gov/international-space-station/space-station-facts-and-figures/

 

And I have watched space station gliding past in the night sky several times

 

https://spotthestation.nasa.gov/tracking_map.cfm

[NoDisplayName]

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

The earth is irregularly shaped ellipsoid

 

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/earth-round.html

 

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