3 hours ago, Dan O said:

posting more twisted bs when you have no valid argument to defend you lame statements you deflect and gaslight the issue , pathetic

 

Military personnel have always been required to take any number of vaccines as part of service without choice as part of enlistment. They were the only profession to my knowledge that had no choice. Yes in 2023 at the basic end of the mass infection was it changed. My comments were pretty clear, I guess you are too thick to comprehend English is that the case here?   others had a choice, that may have come with consequences if they said no but that is not being forced. Is that simple enough for you to understand?  Your group just like t try to argue any point you can and when you cant you deflect from your original statements. 

"I guess you are too thick to comprehend English".... Under what heading would you put that comment? Offensive? Rude? Uncalled for? Arrogant? Gratuitous insult? Personal attack? Or, as they like to say, "ad hominem" attack? Etc etc.

3 hours ago, Dan O said:

posting more twisted bs when you have no valid argument to defend you lame statements you deflect and gaslight the issue , pathetic

 

Military personnel have always been required to take any number of vaccines as part of service without choice as part of enlistment. They were the only profession to my knowledge that had no choice. Yes in 2023 at the basic end of the mass infection was it changed. My comments were pretty clear, I guess you are too thick to comprehend English is that the case here?   others had a choice, that may have come with consequences if they said no but that is not being forced. Is that simple enough for you to understand?  Your group just like t try to argue any point you can and when you cant you deflect from your original statements. 

Choice: an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities. 

What group do belong to?  The group that resorts to all sorts of insults and innuendos when they believe they are right and everyone else is wrong.

45 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Oh, OK people that were hospitalized with Covid were the picture of health.  I guess that is your "follow the science" understanding.  I w0uld rather go with reality but whatever floats your boat.

I never said that so check the comments. You are trying to twist facts and deflect to cover you bs

36 minutes ago, bradiston said:

"I guess you are too thick to comprehend English".... Under what heading would you put that comment? Offensive? Rude? Uncalled for? Arrogant? Gratuitous insult? Personal attack? Or, as they like to say, "ad hominem" attack? Etc etc.

Perhaps if you followed the thread with all the comments you would know what was written and to whom so maybe thick is correct

7 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Choice: an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities. 

What group do belong to?  The group that resorts to all sorts of insults and innuendos when they believe they are right and everyone else is wrong.

I belong to the group that posts replies to commentary on an open forum. If posting accurate info in replies to comments upsets you perhaps an open forum isn't for you 

35 minutes ago, Dan O said:

I belong to the group that posts replies to commentary on an open forum. If posting accurate info in replies to comments upsets you perhaps an open forum isn't for you 

https://health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/Health-Readiness/Immunization-Healthcare/Clinical-Consultation-Services/Exemption-Guidance

It's not the information you post, but your arrogance.  I've been a AN member for nearly twenty years and don't intend to stop participating because of you.

Vaxxed people get so angry.

 

it’s hilarious.

 

Watch those stress level guys!  Wouldn’t want any health issues to arise because of it.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Vaxxed people get so angry.

 

it’s hilarious.

 

Watch those stress level guys!  Wouldn’t want any health issues to arise because of it.

 

 

 

Indeed, it is disproportionate… and raises questions, but ultimately it is their problem.

4 hours ago, Dan O said:

Not really fallacious reasoning in the least, unless you can't understand basic english. Do you even know the meaning of that term ? 

 

If an employer said you need a vax or you cant work and you felt opposed to it you had the right to say no and they had the right to fire you. That isn't "forced", its unfortunate situation but that's it. The employers have rights for health standards just as employees have a right to leave, its not slave labor. The medical profession is full of health related requirements to be able to work and you are told that going into the position. The same with other industries and public service. Traveling is another, depending on what country you come from and go to you may be required to obtain vaccinations or no entry. No one forced you to get the vax, you either do it so you can travel to that country or go elsewhere if you dont want to. Pretty simple really. Life is full of choices so grow a pair and deal with life. 

 

Not coercion in any way (except as your pathetic excuse), they had a choice and made it. No one held a gun or knife and said do it or die. If you crybabies that were and are so worried about the effects of any vaccination or medication, you have a choice that may come with consequences, so get over your ego and deal with reality. 

 

Just to be clear I have never advocated anyone should be vaxxed, its a personal choice thats difficult enough to weed thru facts and when the wingnuts start adding false information and misleading information it makes it even worse and dangerous in some instances.

 

Relax, man.

36 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

https://health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/Health-Readiness/Immunization-Healthcare/Clinical-Consultation-Services/Exemption-Guidance

It's not the information you post, but your arrogance.  I've been a AN member for nearly twenty years and don't intend to stop participating because of you.

Then scroll past my posts if you dont like what I reply when you comment to me. Its a public forum so don't reply to other people if you don't want to read their responses when they differ from your view. 

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Relax, man.

I am relaxed, your the one that should chill. Replying to people like you that comment to post that are longer than 5 words doesn't constitue not being relaxed. 

15 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Then scroll past my posts if you dont like what I reply when you comment to me. Its a public forum so don't reply to other people if you don't want to read their responses when they differ from your view. 

Yes, BOSS.

16 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Indeed, it is disproportionate… and raises questions, but ultimately it is their problem.

Do you think they were like that beforehand?

 

Kind of like the “tolerant and inclusive” liberals.  Poke at them a bit and their real side comes out.

 

Something tells me that they’re like the fat kids that got picked on in school.

 

I’ll bet they’re still the chubby guys with weak chins.

 

Not that I condone bullying.

9 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Do you think they were like that beforehand?

 

Kind of like the “tolerant and inclusive” liberals.  Poke at them a bit and their real side comes out.

 

Something tells me that they’re like the fat kids that got picked on in school.

 

I’ll bet they’re still the chubby guys with weak chins.

 

Not that I condone bullying.

 

Well, all I can say is that unwarranted hostility is often a symptom of neurosis of some sort.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Well, all I can say is that unwarranted hostility is often a symptom of neurosis of some sort.

Unfortunately, there is no vaccine for that.  LOL.

3 hours ago, Airalee said:

Vaxxed people get so angry.

 

it’s hilarious.

 

Watch those stress level guys!  Wouldn’t want any health issues to arise because of it.

 

 

Nope, I observe the highest level of hysteria comes from the anti-vaxxers.

 

It is a side effect of the syndrome I mentioned in my first post several pages ago - the one which triggered an anti-vaxxer into 'screaming' at me.

The syndrome is the 'Dedicated and Unshakeably Convinced Conspiracy Theorist' one. Call them the DUCCT for short. Maybe you've met one.

 

To the DUCCT victim, everything is a conspiracy, and there are plenty of them to believe in. Flat earthers, Chemtrailers, Anti Vaxxers, Alien abductions, The Illuminati, Fake Moon Landings - let's face it, if you believe in any of them you probably believe in ALL of them because once that worm is in your head you suddenly realise that, yes, EVERYTHING is a CONSPIRACY.

FFS.

 

When you BELIEVE everything is a Conspiracy then any individual who dares cast doubt on your beliefs becomes a heretic in your eyes, and worse than that - probably a part of the Conspiracy.

In other words, a demonic enemy. Who must be screamed at!!

 

Personally, since I'm not DUCCT, I couldn't give a <deleted> what you believe in. There's no point arguing with the DUCCT. If the tinfoil hat fits - wear it!

 

But getting back to the point.

I questioned in my first post why it is that Russia, the CCP, and the NORKS all bought into the enemy Western created hoax of Covid. Notably I got no answers. Zero explanation.

Well, the only explanation from the DUCCT would be - a Consiracy. Right? A Global one! They're ALL in on it!

 

Now that the debate here has evolved into 'the next pandemic' and how it'll play out - I guess we're all going to see for real this time if the Russians, the CCP, and the NORKS, are REALLY part of the Great Global Conspiracy to vaxx the whole world.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Airalee said:

Vaxxed people get so angry.

 

it’s hilarious.

 

Watch those stress level guys!  Wouldn’t want any health issues to arise because of it.

 

 

Where did you get that idea from, certainly not on here....?.........

In fact, it could be the other way round, sunbeam.........🤭

Is this an echo chamber?

 

Actually, lets just get it out in the open for once and for all. The problem is Yanks. Nobody else.

America has gone insane, and two halves of the country are at war with each other. Unfortunately its dragging the rest of us down with it.

When a Yank gets something in his head it becomes Gospel.

 

America has been the main source of every conspracy theory that was ever popularised in the internet age. It's a sick society, on its last legs.

Its the HOME of the DUCCT. The Land of Lies.

35 minutes ago, Flyguy330 said:

Nope, I observe the highest level of hysteria comes from the anti-vaxxers.

 

I haven't seen a single non-vaxxer calling for locking up or completely ostracizing the vaccinated.

 

I wish the converse were true.

 

5 hours ago, Dan O said:

Perhaps if you followed the thread with all the comments you would know what was written and to whom so maybe thick is correct

"Thick" is never correct. If you had children you'd know that. If you ever taught in a school you'd know that. Nor is "dumb". Elementary woke. You see, there is a point to it after all.

55 minutes ago, Flyguy330 said:

Now that the debate here has evolved into 'the next pandemic' and how it'll play out

I believe that the vaccinated will bear the brunt of it.  They seem to be the ones getting Covid over and over but certainly not doing anything to address their own health and take personal responsibility for it.  They’ll probably be the ones to get (even) fatter during the next lockdown, and as usual, will scream at others to get vaccinated!  so that they may carry on with their gluttonous pie hole stuffing lifestyles.

 

They’ll put their faith in “the science”, the government and other approved sources of information all the while parroting phrases that were never part of their vocabulary before…just like the non thinking NPCs that they are without an inkling of skepticism or introspection.
 

Then, just like they did before (and are still doing) in order gain a sense of power and relevance, they will attempt to dictate to others what they need to do and pound their keyboards with their sausage fingers telling everybody to “STAY INSIDE! WEAR A MASK! GET VACCINATED!”

 

And we will mock them.  Just like we are doing now.

 

 

On 12/29/2024 at 6:54 PM, Flyguy330 said:

By the way, we have friends and family members who contracted it and died.

RIP your friends and family. I don't know anyone who died from Covid but my mother died after getting the experimental mRNA Moderna bivalent vaccine. She suffered a blood clot, stroke and severe brain bleed 12 hours after the jab. She was otherwise in very good health and had just passed a fit-for-surgery health check for a knee replacement.

2 hours ago, bradiston said:

"Thick" is never correct. If you had children you'd know that. If you ever taught in a school you'd know that. Nor is "dumb". Elementary woke. You see, there is a point to it after all.

The only people that use the term "woke" are the ones that find themselves caught without a valid explanation when caught out so they deflect as your trying to do. 

 

As I wrote before go back and read all the comments and  replies involved and not try to jump into the middle and cherry pick something out of context of the whole conversation. If you cant do that then deal with the comments that come your way. 

3 hours ago, Dan O said:

The only people that use the term "woke" are the ones that find themselves caught without a valid explanation when caught out so they deflect as your trying to do. 

 

As I wrote before go back and read all the comments and  replies involved and not try to jump into the middle and cherry pick something out of context of the whole conversation. If you cant do that then deal with the comments that come your way. 

Your first paragraph makes no sense. Caught out without a valid explanation, as you are? I don't follow.

 

You called somebody "thick" and when called to account, you suggest I reread what I've read so far to see how your personal attack and your use of the word is justified. Thanks, but no thanks. It's never justified.

4 hours ago, Jaggg88 said:

RIP your friends and family. I don't know anyone who died from Covid but my mother died after getting the experimental mRNA Moderna bivalent vaccine. She suffered a blood clot, stroke and severe brain bleed 12 hours after the jab. She was otherwise in very good health and had just passed a fit-for-surgery health check for a knee replacement.

 

Thanks for your testimony, it will help raise awareness, especially as you were initially a pro-vax poster on this forum. So many people have suffered because of this organised crime…

6 hours ago, bradiston said:

Your first paragraph makes no sense. Caught out without a valid explanation, as you are? I don't follow.

 

You called somebody "thick" and when called to account, you suggest I reread what I've read so far to see how your personal attack and your use of the word is justified. Thanks, but no thanks. It's never justified.

If you didnt follow the whole thread which appears obvious or chose not to, and want to jump in the middle and cherry pick 1 issue to comment on, thats on you. 

 

Then you try to deflect by throwing out the catch all  phrase that "I'm  woke" which is classic when people can't find a way to defend what they say and are called on it.

 

You then want to belittle me for use of what you consider inappropriate or derogatory terms for others while you do the same. A bit hypocritical don't you think. Get real dude. You don't like what I post you can scroll on by and not read or reply. 

Just now, Dan O said:

If you didnt follow the whole thread which appears obvious or chose not to, and want to jump in the middle and cherry pick 1 issue to comment on, thats on you. 

 

Then you try to deflect by throwing out the catch all  phrase that "I'm  woke" which is classic when people can't find a way to defend what they say and are called on it.

 

You then want to belittle me for use of what you consider inappropriate or derogatory terms for others while you do the same. A bit hypocritical don't you think. Get real dude. You don't like what I post you can scroll on by and not read or reply. 

Cherry pick? I've commented several times in this thread. I actually said my comment could be construed as woke, not yours. Belittle you? You mean comment on your derogatory attack on another commentator? Where did I do the same as you?

 

41 minutes ago, bradiston said:

 

 

 

 

41 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Cherry pick? I've commented several times in this thread. I actually said my comment could be construed as woke, not yours. Belittle you? You mean comment on your derogatory attack on another commentator? Where did I do the same as you?

 

I purposely posted a link and an unrelated comment. He cherry picked the comment to address and ignored the link countering one of his arguments.  I tried  this with another post.  Same result.  He is a master of deflection by ignoring the real issue by making all sorts of derogatory comments and ridiculous accusations.  Don't waste your time reasoning with him.  Eventually, he will disappear.

On 1/1/2025 at 2:54 PM, impulse said:

Covid didn't shred economies and overwhelm health systems.  The reaction to Covid did that. 

You forgot about the 7 million people who died as a result of Covid 19, but then that statistic didn't fit your narrative, so you chose to ignore it. Sad.

15 minutes ago, xylophone said:

You forgot about the 7 million people who died as a result of Covid 19, but then that statistic didn't fit your narrative, so you chose to ignore it. Sad.

LOL.

 

another one of the “omg….the people dieeeeeed” posters.

 

The statistic can be ignored because it’s a flawed statistic that we have shown over and over yet you drama queens keep coming back with your “ohhh nooooo…..what about the 7 million dead?  Don’t they matter?”

 

I really love the “tell that to the parents of a kid who died”…..ok…..I’ll ask them why their kid was so damn fat and tell them they were crap parents too to let their kid turn into such a fat slob.

 

no….they don’t matter.  Last time I checked, only Black Lives Matters.

 

Get over it. And stop with your whiny appeals to emotion.  It’s so passé.

 

Most were old, fat people with multiple comorbidities.  Already had one foot in the grave and most died “with Covid” and not “from Covid”

 

Here’s a stat that you’ll never come up with….and conveniently ignore…

 

How many of the people who died in 2021 to 2023 (out of the total deaths for those three years) were vaxxed?

 

Now….let’s have a diverse and inclusive group cry for all the people who died.