Is This What It’s Come To? Western Couples Hunting for Ladyboys in Bangkok?

[SoCal1990]

Late Last night, while slumming it around Sukhumvit Road, I saw something that left me scratching my head a bit. There are always a few unusual freaks in Bangers around this area late at night, especially during the high-season holidays, but this particular situation stood out to me a bit more than usual.

 

I spotted a Western couple, presumably British, probably in their late 30s. Let’s just say neither of them was too kind on the eyes. They were walking arm in arm, looking a bit worse for wear, and then they headed straight into a short-time hotel. But they weren’t alone. With them was a tall, very slim ladyboy, looking a bit haggard like them and maybe on meth.

 

This situation brought back memories of the kinds of things I saw ages ago. Back in the day, it wasn’t all that uncommon to see Western couples in Thailand who were into a bit of a trio swing. They would bring bar girls back to their hotel room together as part of their “exotic” Thailand adventure. It was a known thing, often with the older European couples, and while not fully mainstream, it wasn’t entirely uncommon either.

 

But now? It seems that notion of swinging isn’t just about Thai women anymore. The ladyboys are now swinging their bits into the mix too. Now I wonder: is this a new trend for these "one-night-in-Bangkok" couples who come to Thailand wanting a bit of extra kink? And do they first sit down together back in their tiny, cold, UK apartment, fantasizing about their next party holiday and say, “You know what we should do when we get to Thailand? Let’s find ourselves a ladyboy and take turns trouncing his pogo stick!”

 

I couldn’t help but think about the dynamic here. Is this just about adding something more “exotic” to their adventure? Or is it a now a thing and a case of two people back in the West who are struggling to spark their own intimacy whilst looking to get themselves into something out of the ordinary to get them going again while on holiday?

 

Sukhumvit has always had its share of unusual pairings, but this one really stood out to me as a sign of how the scene looks to be changing, or perhaps devolving, depending on how you view it

 

I wonder if others have noticed this shift too. Or if this is just a random one-off scene that happened to cross my path last night. Who knows, but maybe there is a wonderful new "hub of" evolving here for Thailand. 

[Nick Carter icp]

Who was you with ?

[SoCal1990]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Who was you with ?

Solo and on the piss. Was that you?

[jts-khorat]

There is no shift.

 

Maybe talk to the one or other ladyboy how they are making their money, and this would not be anything very special at all.

[SoCal1990]

5 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

There is no shift.

 

Maybe talk to the one or other ladyboy how they are making their money, and this would not be anything very special at all.

Talking with ladyboys when I'm out is not something I ever do. Do you have any personal knowledge of the situation?

[jts-khorat]

I have lived in Thailand since 1998 (now back in Germany). Mind you, even in 1998, with HIV everywhere, the real fun times were already over.

 

What I find interesting is, that in one of the red light hotspots of the World, a so called sex paradise, it is worth a special mention that a couple would invite a Katoey, going to a hotel supposedly catering to this specific hourly clientele.

 

It saddens me, that adult people have seen and expoerienced so little.

 

I could rant on about the lives of so many people in the west, swamped by constant porn, but themselves living a completely sanitized life devoid of any hint of excitement or experimentation, but it is a fact that the nightlife in Thailand has become a mere fake show for tourists to look at. I blame mobile phones, as the gawking masses would rather record instead of partake.

 

[SoCal1990]

4 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

I have lived in Thailand since 1998 (now back in Germany). Mind you, even in 1998, with HIV everywhere, the real fun times were already over.

 

What I find interesting is, that in one of the red light hotspots of the World, a so called sex paradise, it is worth a special mention that a couple would invite a Katoey, going to a hotel supposedly catering to this specific hourly clientele.

 

It saddens me, that adult people have seen and expoerienced so little.

 

I could rant on about the lives of so many people in the west, swamped by constant porn, but themselves living a completely sanitized life devoid of any hint of excitement or experimentation, but it is a fact that the nightlife in Thailand has become a mere fake show for tourists to look at. I blame mobile phones, as the gawking masses would rather record instead of partake.

 

And your point is?

[jts-khorat]

7 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

And your point is?

 

My point is: there is no shift, as this is not special nowadays, nor has it been special in the times before.

 

I knew several couples in my wild days in Thailand who made exactly this their lifestyle: the winter months in Thailand, having one party after the next. So, no shift.

 

And why, on God's earth, would you not talk to a Katoey, if you have a question of how they spend their time? Would they not be a much better source of information than random people on an online forum?

[jts-khorat]

12 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

And why, on God's earth, would you not talk to a Katoey, if you have a question of how they spend their time? Would they not be a much better source of information than random people on an online forum?

 

To my point above, not just directed a SoCal:

 

If you want to know something, talk to people, preferrable those that likely might have answers to your questions. If you are out at night, it would cost you nothing more than a drink and half an hour of your time to get all the secrets of Thailand explained.

 

Thais as a general rule are happy to share and talkative to a fault. Dare to interact!

[SoCal1990]

21 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

 

My point is: there is no shift, as this is not special nowadays, nor has it been special in the times before.

 

I knew several couples in my wild days in Thailand who made exactly this their lifestyle: the winter months in Thailand, having one party after the next. So, no shift.

So you're sitting back in your lazy armchair in Germany in the winter cold, you haven't been in Thailand for 30 years, and you're telling me how things really are here in Bangkok now? Is that what's going on?

 

Meanwhile, the other night I saw a guy with a really tall blond ladyboy dressed pretty well and taller than him, Western looking features, he-she probably had a bunch of facial plastic surgery, and with them was also one of those short, fat Kazakhstan hookers covered from head to toe, wearing a black burka.
 

The guy might've been Middle Eastern himself, but the bizarre combination didn't strike me as so unusual because you get blokes coming here wanting all kinds of kinky stuff. But the youngish British couple with a ladyboy, that seemed a bit more peculiar to me.

[SoCal1990]

26 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

And why, on God's earth, would you not talk to a Katoey, if you have a question of how they spend their time? Would they not be a much better source of information than random people on an online forum?

I don't talk to ladyboys on the streets of Sukhumvit. Many of them are whacked out on drugs. And they're not emotionally stable. They have gender identity issues and their hormones are all confused and messed up. You start asking them questions about who they have sex with for money and they might get pissed off and hit you with a bottle over the head. 
 

This forum is for off-topic discussion. This is the right place to get into a topic like this about Thailand. And you don't have to participate if you're not interested. You could just go off and cook yourself another schnitzel instead.

[jts-khorat]

14 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

So you're sitting back in your lazy armchair in Germany in the winter cold, you haven't been in Thailand for 30 years, and you're telling me how things really are here in Bangkok now? Is that what's going on?

 

Yep, you preferred to talk to random people on the internet, so these are the answers you got. You seem to be not happy with mine, a feeling you are free to have.

 

Where you get that I have not been in Thailand for 30 years is beyond me, but as you do not know me and have no way of verifying, you are also free to interpret anything you like in what I said and build your own version of the truth out of it.

 

There is no point going further with this, or the point is, that I would have talked to either the ladyboy, or other ladyboys around, if this is unusual or a shift to what they experienced before. You would have gotten a verifiable, detailed answer by an "expert", much more likely to fulfill you desire for information.

I stand by my point, couples having a good time with a ladyboy has never been not an ordinary occurence.

 

With regard to Katoeys: many of them, if not the biggest majority, are lovely people, and it might widen your horizon to talk to them regardless of your sexual disinterest in them. I have not ever been threatened physically by any of them, but then I am friendly to begin with and at least to try to be open-minded and open to learn something new.

 

Social openness is an experience I do recommend. Going into a discussion asking questions and then being disappointed if the answer does not fit the pre-conceived notion, I do not.

[SoCal1990]

2 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

 

Yep, you preferred to talk to random people on the internet, so these are the answers you got. You seem to be not happy with mine, a feeling you are free to have.

 

Where you get that I have not been in Thailand for 30 years is beyond me, but as you do not know me and have no way of verifying, you are also free to interpret anything you like in what I said and build your own versoion of the truth out of it.

 

There is no point going further with this, or the point is, that I would have talked to either the ladyboy, or other ladyboys around, if this is unusual or a shift to what they experienced before. You would have gotten a verifiable person by an "expert", much more likely to fulfill you desire for information.

I stand by my point, couples having a good time with a ladyboy has never been not an ordinary occurence.

 

With regard to Katoeys: many of them, if not the biggest majority, are lovely people, and it might widen your horizon to talk to them regardless of your sexual disinterest in them. I have not ever been threatened physically by any of them, but then I am friendly to begin with and at least to try to be open-minded and open to learn something new.

 

Social openness is an experience I do recommend. Going into a discussion asking questions and then being disappointed if the answer does not fit the pre-conceived notion, I do not.

You want to spend your time at night talking to ladyboys, go ahead. You do you. Not for me. No interest. I've got other things that interest me more. 
 

I also don't go around just asking people their personal business and how they make their money. I call that manners.

 

Lastly, the thought of talking with a ladyboy, and asking them questions about this situation never even crossed my mind. I'm not out there to do surveys and try to get to the root of things. I've been here long enough to know that it's better to mind your own business. I was only making an observation on things that I see in passing.  
 

You've taken this all too seriously. But since you seem to really want the answer now, you should go out and do all the extensive ladyboy research and report back to us.

[HauptmannUK]

Someone's led a sheltered life.....

[SoCal1990]

6 minutes ago, HauptmannUK said:

Someone's led a sheltered life.....

But if you only really knew......

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, SoCal1990 said:

Solo and on the piss. Was that you?

 

Bottles of   Chang from 7/11 ?

[SoCal1990]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Bottles of   Chang from 7/11 ?

And a toastie with an M150. 

[Lucky Bones]

"While slumming it around Sukhumvit Road, I Saw".

Ok. End of troll.🙃🙃

[scubascuba3]

I've not seen it in Patts, in that situation i always wonder if the farang wife/girlfriend has been pushed into it, probably, you know guy is bored tries ladyboys then talks the mrs into it to keep the relationship together somehow.

 

The funniest thing is guys who like ladyboys still claim to be heterosexual 555

[SoCal1990]

26 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

"While slumming it around Sukhumvit Road, I Saw".

Ok. End of troll.🙃🙃

At least 3 nights a week. You should try it some time. Better than staying home and just surfing Pornhub every night. 

[SoCal1990]

15 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I've not seen it in Patts, in that situation i always wonder if the farang wife/girlfriend has been pushed into it, probably, you know guy is bored tries ladyboys then talks the mrs into it to keep the relationship together somehow.

 

The funniest thing is guys who like ladyboys still claim to be heterosexual 555

Or maybe the boyfriend has a really small unit so he plays the cuck while the ladyboy sorts out the missus with some proper beef. 
 

Had a friend who liked ladyboys 25% of the time. He also thought he was heterosexual until one day I clarified to him that he's bisexual. And he said maybe. 😊

[Yagoda]

Dude where ya been?  Happy couples been chasing ladyboys since before the Skytrain was there. What do you care. Im more disgusted by the Africans who are reinfesting the area

[SoCal1990]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Im more disgusted by the Africans who are reinfesting the area

The male or the female ones?

[SoCal1990]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What do you care.

I love it. Anytime someone makes a simple observation then others assume that they care. It's an inherent human flaw. Nearly everybody seems to have it.
 

Where did I state that I care? So now that you've dug yourself into this hole, define "care". 🤣

[scubascuba3]

7 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

Had a friend who liked ladyboys 25% of the time. He also thought he was heterosexual until one day I clarified to him that he's bisexual. And he said maybe. 😊

Yeah usually they can't face admitting they are gay or bi

[SoCal1990]

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

Yeah usually they can't face admitting they are gay or bi

A gay man once explained to me about the men who like ladyboys. He said that they see them not as another man, but as a woman with a penis. I guess that's where they confuse themselves.

[lamyai3]

Maybe the guy had tried to talk his gf into having a threesome, and she agreed, "with one condition"...

[bubblegum]

3 hours ago, SoCal1990 said:

Late Last night, while slumming it around Sukhumvit Road, I saw something that left me scratching my head a bit. There are always a few unusual freaks in Bangers around this area late at night, especially during the high-season holidays, but this particular situation stood out to me a bit more than usual.

 

I spotted a Western couple, presumably British, probably in their late 30s. Let’s just say neither of them was too kind on the eyes. They were walking arm in arm, looking a bit worse for wear, and then they headed straight into a short-time hotel. But they weren’t alone. With them was a tall, very slim ladyboy, looking a bit haggard like them and maybe on meth.

 

This situation brought back memories of the kinds of things I saw ages ago. Back in the day, it wasn’t all that uncommon to see Western couples in Thailand who were into a bit of a trio swing. They would bring bar girls back to their hotel room together as part of their “exotic” Thailand adventure. It was a known thing, often with the older European couples, and while not fully mainstream, it wasn’t entirely uncommon either.

 

But now? It seems that notion of swinging isn’t just about Thai women anymore. The ladyboys are now swinging their bits into the mix too. Now I wonder: is this a new trend for these "one-night-in-Bangkok" couples who come to Thailand wanting a bit of extra kink? And do they first sit down together back in their tiny, cold, UK apartment, fantasizing about their next party holiday and say, “You know what we should do when we get to Thailand? Let’s find ourselves a ladyboy and take turns trouncing his pogo stick!”

 

I couldn’t help but think about the dynamic here. Is this just about adding something more “exotic” to their adventure? Or is it a now a thing and a case of two people back in the West who are struggling to spark their own intimacy whilst looking to get themselves into something out of the ordinary to get them going again while on holiday?

 

Sukhumvit has always had its share of unusual pairings, but this one really stood out to me as a sign of how the scene looks to be changing, or perhaps devolving, depending on how you view it

 

I wonder if others have noticed this shift too. Or if this is just a random one-off scene that happened to cross my path last night. Who knows, but maybe there is a wonderful new "hub of" evolving here for Thailand. 

What ls it to you? 

[scubascuba3]

26 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

A gay man once explained to me about the men who like ladyboys. He said that they see them not as another man, but as a woman with a penis. I guess that's where they confuse themselves.

Yes the crutch of it though is they are a man, looks like a man and with a penis, most don't want one without a penis

[SoCal1990]

5 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

What ls it to you? 

Close friends of yours gumball?