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27 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

One of the great unresolved mysteries of this forum is whether you actually believe the outrageous BS you post. I tend to think you do.

It’s funny how he has gone with all the “every doctor who has ever said anything bad about the vaccine is a discredited quack” spiel.

 

You’d get a kick out of watching the nobody of a doctor who he quotes (Ziyad Al-Aly) on his YouTube interviews with other even lesser known podcasters.  They’re hilarious.  Definitely the perfect portrait of health.

 

He also has some glowing write up in Time magazine.

 

“Al-Aly is the first to admit that, prior to 2020, he knew almost nothing about postinfectious illness; back then, much of his research focused on the health effects of air pollution.”

 

 So will he ever go back to researching air pollution? “I identify as a Long COVID researcher now,” Al-Aly says

 

https://time.com/6966812/ziyad-al-aly/

 

I wonder why they’re usually these foreign born and educated doctors who end up spouting the Covid narrative?  Would they be deported if they didn’t toe the line?

 

I don’t know about you but I’d prefer a doctor who got his MD from University of Michigan, Anne Arbor (#19 in best global universities per US News and World Report) vs American University of Beirut (#381)

 

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40 minutes ago, Airalee said:

It’s funny how he has gone with all the “every doctor who has ever said anything bad about the vaccine is a discredited quack” spiel.

 

No, quacks are quacks, which by my definition simply means: people who have repeatedly spread false and misleading information that has been proven to be false and misleading by multiple, credible sources. Has nothing to do with whether they say good or bad things about anything.

 

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I don’t know about you but I’d prefer a doctor who got his MD from University of Michigan, Anne Arbor (#19 in best global universities per US News and World Report) vs American University of Beirut (#381)

 

Maybe you'll settle for the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Policy and Research, and its director, Dr. Michael Osterholm:

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/michael-t-osterholm-phd-mph

 

"From 2001 through early 2005, Dr. Osterholm, in addition to his role at CIDRAP, served as a Special Advisor to then–HHS Secretary Tommy G. Thompson on issues related to bioterrorism and public health preparedness. He was also appointed to the Secretary's Advisory Council on Public Health Preparedness. On April 1, 2002, Dr. Osterholm was appointed by Thompson to be his representative on the interim management team to lead the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). With the appointment of Dr. Julie Gerberding as director of the CDC on July 3, 2002, Dr. Osterholm was asked by Thompson to assist Dr. Gerberding on his behalf during the transition period. He filled that role through January 2003.

 

Previously, Dr. Osterholm served for 24 years (1975-1999) in various roles at the Minnesota Department of Health, the last 15 as state epidemiologist. He has led numerous investigations of outbreaks of international importance, including foodborne diseases, the association of tampons and toxic shock syndrome, and hepatitis B and HIV in healthcare settings."

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"He is a frequent consultant to the World Health Organization (WHO), the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the Department of Defense, and the CDC. He is a fellow of the American College of Epidemiology and the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA)."

 

And he did a recent podcast where he addressed what it means when doctors and other public health professionals refer to vaccines as being "safe and effective", as follows in an excerpt limited in length by forum quoting rules... but the full exchange is posted in transcript form here:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/episode-173-what-safe-and-effective

 

Dr. Osterholm:

"Let me start by saying I want to be clear that a vaccine being safe and effective does not mean that it is entirely without some risk to the person receiving the vaccines. Vaccines are widely accepted as safe can still cause very rare complications. It is essential that we properly communicate this to the public in order to reestablish trust in public health, we need to be transparent about these risks while also assuring that the general public understands that the risks that occur due to infection are much greater. [emphasis added]

 

Let me give you an example. If we look at the MMR [measles, mumps, rubella] vaccine, it's one that's often cited as potentially a risk to individuals. One possible complication associated with the measles vaccine is a condition called immune thrombocytopenic purpura, ITP. This is a disorder that decreases the body's ability to stop bleeding. Studies have found that in the six weeks following vaccination, the incidence of ITP is about 1 in 40,000 children. In fact, the risk of ITP is 13.2 times higher after measles infection. So yes, it can occur among a vaccine. However, the risk of your child having ITP is so, so much higher with the disease itself. ... And so, I want to just point out to you that when we talk about safe, we're not trying to hide the potential impact that a vaccine can have. But it is very, very rare."

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I think this discussion right now is really healthy about vaccine safety, but please do not be confused by what you're hearing out of the likes of RFK Jr. and his colleagues there. They're talking about extremely, extremely exaggerated risk with Vaccines without any consideration of the benefits. And that discussion is not helpful. It's scary, and it's going to be responsible for kids not getting vaccinated and eventually kids getting infected with vaccine preventable diseases and dying."

 

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32 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

No, quacks are quacks, which by my definition simply means: people who have repeatedly spread false and misleading information that has been proven to be false and misleading by multiple, credible sources. Has nothing to do with whether they say good or bad things about anything.

 

 

Maybe you'll settle for the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Policy and Research, and its director, Dr. Michael Osterholm:

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/michael-t-osterholm-phd-mph

 

"From 2001 through early 2005, Dr. Osterholm, in addition to his role at CIDRAP, served as a Special Advisor to then–HHS Secretary Tommy G. Thompson on issues related to bioterrorism and public health preparedness. He was also appointed to the Secretary's Advisory Council on Public Health Preparedness. On April 1, 2002, Dr. Osterholm was appointed by Thompson to be his representative on the interim management team to lead the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). With the appointment of Dr. Julie Gerberding as director of the CDC on July 3, 2002, Dr. Osterholm was asked by Thompson to assist Dr. Gerberding on his behalf during the transition period. He filled that role through January 2003.

 

Previously, Dr. Osterholm served for 24 years (1975-1999) in various roles at the Minnesota Department of Health, the last 15 as state epidemiologist. He has led numerous investigations of outbreaks of international importance, including foodborne diseases, the association of tampons and toxic shock syndrome, and hepatitis B and HIV in healthcare settings."

...

"He is a frequent consultant to the World Health Organization (WHO), the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the Department of Defense, and the CDC. He is a fellow of the American College of Epidemiology and the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA)."

 

And he did a recent podcast where he addressed what it means when doctors and other public health professionals refer to vaccines as being "safe and effective", as follows in an excerpt limited in length by forum quoting rules... but the full exchange is posted in transcript form here:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/episode-173-what-safe-and-effective

 

Dr. Osterholm:

"Let me start by saying I want to be clear that a vaccine being safe and effective does not mean that it is entirely without some risk to the person receiving the vaccines. Vaccines are widely accepted as safe can still cause very rare complications. It is essential that we properly communicate this to the public in order to reestablish trust in public health, we need to be transparent about these risks while also assuring that the general public understands that the risks that occur due to infection are much greater. [emphasis added]

 

Let me give you an example. If we look at the MMR [measles, mumps, rubella] vaccine, it's one that's often cited as potentially a risk to individuals. One possible complication associated with the measles vaccine is a condition called immune thrombocytopenic purpura, ITP. This is a disorder that decreases the body's ability to stop bleeding. Studies have found that in the six weeks following vaccination, the incidence of ITP is about 1 in 40,000 children. In fact, the risk of ITP is 13.2 times higher after measles infection. So yes, it can occur among a vaccine. However, the risk of your child having ITP is so, so much higher with the disease itself. ... And so, I want to just point out to you that when we talk about safe, we're not trying to hide the potential impact that a vaccine can have. But it is very, very rare."

...

I think this discussion right now is really healthy about vaccine safety, but please do not be confused by what you're hearing out of the likes of RFK Jr. and his colleagues there. They're talking about extremely, extremely exaggerated risk with Vaccines without any consideration of the benefits. And that discussion is not helpful. It's scary, and it's going to be responsible for kids not getting vaccinated and eventually kids getting infected with vaccine preventable diseases and dying."

 

Five more pages please.


Some guy with a PhD?

 

Worked with the D.O.D.? (In addition to the CDC, WHO, NIH and FDA)

 

Sketchy

 

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1 hour ago, Airalee said:

Ziyad Al-Aly

 

Pretty ironic questioning Dr. Al-Ay's expertise and credentials relating to COVID, considering the assortment of documented loonies and quacks that regularly get posted into this subforum by a familiar cast of anti-vax characters.

 

"Ziyad Al-Aly is an American physician and clinical epidemiologist who is currently Director of the Clinical Epidemiology Center and Chief of the Research and Development at the Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care System.[1][2][3] He is also a clinical epidemiologist at Washington University in St. Louis.[2] He has led multiple studies on long covid and its sequelae.

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Al-Aly holds a medical degree from the American University of Beirut.[6] He completed his post-graduate medical education at Saint Louis University and Washington University in St. Louis.

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Al-Aly's research work has been cited more than a 140,000 times and he has an h-index of more than 90 according to Google Scholar.[7] Al-Aly was featured on Clarivate (Web of Science) list of highly cited researchers in 2024; the list recognizes researchers with significant influence, top 1% cited papers, and broad community recognition.

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Al-Aly led work which provided the first systematic characterization of the post-acute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection.[8] He subsequently led work which characterized the increased risks of cardiovascular disease,[9] neurologic disorders,[10] mental health disorders,[11] gastrointestinal disorders,[12] diabetes,[13] dyslipidemia,[14] and kidney disease[15] following SARS-CoV-2 infection. His lab also produced evidence characterizing the effects of COVID-19 vaccines on long COVID[16] and the health consequences of repeated infections with SARS-CoV-2.[17]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziyad_Al-Aly

 

 

Posted
22 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

"Ziyad Al-Aly is an American physician and clinical epidemiologist who is currently Director of the Clinical Epidemiology Center and Chief of the Research and Development at the Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care System.[1][2][3] He is also a clinical epidemiologist at Washington University in St. Louis.[2] He has led multiple studies on long covid and its sequelae.

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Al-Aly holds a medical degree from the American University of Beirut.[6] He completed his post-graduate medical education at Saint Louis University and Washington University in St. Louis.

 

Obviously right in the middle of the mainstream.

 

Expect a fight to the bitter end to defend his position, his reputation, his income.

 

Oh!  Just noticed: a government employee, too. ("Veterans Affairs".)

Going to be a vicious, vicious fight to protect all that.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"Ziyad Al-Aly is an American physician and clinical epidemiologist

 

Sure, he may have plenty of doctoring credentials and heaps and heaps of published papers, but does he have experience 'rolfing'?  Does he know how to correlate my aura to the correct crystal and essential oils?  Is he able to produce the necessary amulets and spells to ward off the gremlins that bring the covids?

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21 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Okay, so based on this rationale, you also take into consideration this then too then, right?

 

Nicolas  Hulscher MPH (Master of Public Health), epidemiologist:

 

 

Hulscher is another discredited COVID anti-vax quack with a history of spreading documented COVID misinformation, who now appears to be working for a foundation headed by another prolific anti-vax misinfo peddler, Peter McCullough, as shown below.

 

Example #1 re "flawed study" co-authored by Hulscher:

 

Screenshot_5.jpg.e264f1879f298432cb044f3a1d425e62.jpg

 

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An article published by the website The Blaze in late January 2024 claimed that a study published in the journal Therapeutic Advances in Drug Safety showed the risk of COVID-19 vaccination outweighed its benefits.

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The study in Therapeutic Advances in Drug Safety was authored by computational biologist Jessica Rose, masters student Nicolas Hulscher, and cardiologist Peter McCullough.

 

Both Rose and McCullough have previously spread vaccine misinformation. Hulscher, according to his LinkedIn profile, is a masters student in epidemiology at the University of Michigan Ann Arbor. Notably, Hulscher and McCullough co-authored a preprint that claimed 76% of deaths in vaccinated people were due to COVID-19 vaccines. Health Feedback covered the preprint’s questionable methods and conclusions here. [emphasis added]

 

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/claim-myocarditis-covid-vaccines-carries-serious-risk-death-flawed-study/

 

 

Hulscher's current LinkedIn profile says he's working now, not surprisingly, for a foundation founded by McCullough:

 

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https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicolas-hulscher-mph-3683b1274_how-and-why-do-certain-injectable-products-activity-7262860978151673856-PjqD

 

Example #2 re bogus study co-authored by Hulscher that was withdrawn by the original journal where it was published:

 

Hulscher, McCullough and several others in their anti-vax misinfo peddling clan also collaborated on a bogus research paper claiming they did a review of published research reports on sudden death autopsies and found many of them were caused by COVID vaccines. Unfortunately for the authors, those determinations that THEY made contradicted what many of the actual studies they reviewed found, which was for the most part that COVID vaccines were NOT to blame.

 

That and other problems with their paper led to the journal where it was published ultimately withdrawing the paper, as shown below:

 

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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0379073824001968?via%3Dihub

 

 

The following fact check report details the travails of Hulscher and McCullough's bogus journal article, including the following:

 

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"As others have pointed out before, there’s reason to suspect that the authors may have been biased in their determinations. All three adjudicators, including Dr. Peter McCullough, are well known for spreading COVID-19 misinformation. Dr. William Makis, a Canadian radiologist, has previously claimed, without evidence, that 80 Canadian doctors died from COVID-19 vaccines. The only pathologist, Dr. Roger Hodkinson, incorrectly claimed in 2020 that COVID-19 was a “hoax” and “just a bad flu.”

 

Hodkinson and McCullough, along with five other authors, are also affiliated with and have a financial interest in The Wellness Company, a supplement and telehealth company that sells unproven treatments, including for purported protection against vaccines. [emphasis added]

 

Perhaps most tellingly, the scientists who conducted many of the autopsy studies came to opposite conclusions than the review authors. Of the 240 cases, for example, 105 come from a single paper in Colombia, whose authors found “[n]o relation between the cause of death and vaccination.”  Similarly, the review authors counted 24 of 28 autopsies from a study from Singapore as vaccine-related, even though the original authors identified “no definite causative relationship” to mRNA vaccines."

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/flawed-autopsy-review-revives-unsupported-claims-of-covid-19-vaccine-harm-censorship/

 

Then last November, the anti-vax group of authors managed to get the paper published again in a different online journal headed and overseen by various anti-vaxers, including McCullough.

 

As the above fact check recounts:

 

"Update, Nov. 19: On Nov. 17, the autopsy review that sparked these initial claims and that was later withdrawn from its journal was republished online, renewing claims of censorship and the incorrect idea that the COVID-19 vaccines “are causing large numbers of deaths.” The republication outlet, Science, Public Health Policy and the Law, says it is a peer-reviewed journal, but it is not indexed on PubMed. The editor-in-chief is James Lyons-Weiler, a wellknown spreader of vaccine misinformation. Other board members, including one author of the republished paper [McCullough], are also known spreaders of vaccine misinformation."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lyons-Weiler#Controversies

 

 

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18 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Hulscher is another discredited COVID anti-vax quack with a history of spreading documented COVID misinformation, who now appears to be working for a foundation headed by another prolific anti-vax misinfo peddler, Peter McCullough, as shown below.

 

Example #1 re Hulscher:

 

Screenshot_5.jpg.e264f1879f298432cb044f3a1d425e62.jpg

 

...

An article published by the website The Blaze in late January 2024 claimed that a study published in the journal Therapeutic Advances in Drug Safety showed the risk of COVID-19 vaccination outweighed its benefits.

...

The study in Therapeutic Advances in Drug Safety was authored by computational biologist Jessica Rose, masters student Nicolas Hulscher, and cardiologist Peter McCullough.

 

Both Rose and McCullough have previously spread vaccine misinformation. Hulscher, according to his LinkedIn profile, is a masters student in epidemiology at the University of Michigan Ann Arbor. Notably, Hulscher and McCullough co-authored a preprint that claimed 76% of deaths in vaccinated people were due to COVID-19 vaccines. Health Feedback covered the preprint’s questionable methods and conclusions here. [emphasis added]

 

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/claim-myocarditis-covid-vaccines-carries-serious-risk-death-flawed-study/

 

 

Hulscher's current LinkedIn profile says he's working now, not surprisingly, for a foundation founded by McCullough:

 

Screenshot_7.jpg.199f9873b3ba420cb52c77d40576e095.jpg

 

 

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicolas-hulscher-mph-3683b1274_how-and-why-do-certain-injectable-products-activity-7262860978151673856-PjqD

 

Example #2 re Hulscher:

 

Hulscher, McCullough and several others in their anti-vax misinfo peddling clan also collaborated on a bogus research paper claiming they did a review of published research reports on sudden death autopsies and found many of them were caused by COVID vaccines. Unfortunately for the authors, those determinations that THEY made contradicted what many of the actual studies they reviewed found, which was for the most part that COVID vaccines were NOT to blame.

 

That and other problems with their paper led to the journal where it was published ultimately withdrawing the paper, as shown below:

 

Screenshot_8.jpg.76f268631bbddf3604741e2e43f72326.jpg

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0379073824001968?via%3Dihub

 

 

The following fact check report details the travails of Hulscher and McCullough's bogus journal article, including the following:

 

Screenshot_10.thumb.jpg.299eb8116a9c0ca30e311589d2a7a816.jpg

 

"As others have pointed out before, there’s reason to suspect that the authors may have been biased in their determinations. All three adjudicators, including Dr. Peter McCullough, are well known for spreading COVID-19 misinformation. Dr. William Makis, a Canadian radiologist, has previously claimed, without evidence, that 80 Canadian doctors died from COVID-19 vaccines. The only pathologist, Dr. Roger Hodkinson, incorrectly claimed in 2020 that COVID-19 was a “hoax” and “just a bad flu.”

 

Hodkinson and McCullough, along with five other authors, are also affiliated with and have a financial interest in The Wellness Company, a supplement and telehealth company that sells unproven treatments, including for purported protection against vaccines. [emphasis added]

 

Perhaps most tellingly, the scientists who conducted many of the autopsy studies came to opposite conclusions than the review authors. Of the 240 cases, for example, 105 come from a single paper in Colombia, whose authors found “[n]o relation between the cause of death and vaccination.”  Similarly, the review authors counted 24 of 28 autopsies from a study from Singapore as vaccine-related, even though the original authors identified “no definite causative relationship” to mRNA vaccines."

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/flawed-autopsy-review-revives-unsupported-claims-of-covid-19-vaccine-harm-censorship/

 

Then last November, the anti-vax group of authors managed to get the paper published again in an online journal headed and overseen by various anti-vaxers, including McCullough.

 

As the above fact check recounts:

 

"Update, Nov. 19: On Nov. 17, the autopsy review that sparked these initial claims and that was later withdrawn from its journal was republished online, renewing claims of censorship and the incorrect idea that the COVID-19 vaccines “are causing large numbers of deaths.” The republication outlet, Science, Public Health Policy and the Law, says it is a peer-reviewed journal, but it is not indexed on PubMed. The editor-in-chief is James Lyons-Weiler, a wellknown spreader of vaccine misinformation. Other board members, including one author of the republished paper [McCullough], are also known spreaders of vaccine misinformation."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lyons-Weiler#Controversies

 

 

Translation:

 

Anybody, no matter their education, their exemplary performance in their careers, awards won, etc.  if they have ever gone against the Covid narrative they are forever relegated to the ranks of discredited hacks.

 

Because some fact checker said so.

 

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The only "exemplary performance" that Hulscher has experienced is having one of the papers he co-authored discredited as flawed and inaccurate, and the other flatly withdrawn by the established journal where it was originally published.  Does anyone give out awards for that kind of performance?

 

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16 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Hulscher is another discredited COVID anti-vax quack with a history of spreading documented COVID misinformation, who now appears to be working for a foundation headed by another prolific anti-vax misinfo peddler, Peter McCullough, as shown below.

 

Example #1 re "flawed study" co-authored by Hulscher:

 

Screenshot_5.jpg.e264f1879f298432cb044f3a1d425e62.jpg

 

...

An article published by the website The Blaze in late January 2024 claimed that a study published in the journal Therapeutic Advances in Drug Safety showed the risk of COVID-19 vaccination outweighed its benefits.

...

The study in Therapeutic Advances in Drug Safety was authored by computational biologist Jessica Rose, masters student Nicolas Hulscher, and cardiologist Peter McCullough.

 

Both Rose and McCullough have previously spread vaccine misinformation. Hulscher, according to his LinkedIn profile, is a masters student in epidemiology at the University of Michigan Ann Arbor. Notably, Hulscher and McCullough co-authored a preprint that claimed 76% of deaths in vaccinated people were due to COVID-19 vaccines. Health Feedback covered the preprint’s questionable methods and conclusions here. [emphasis added]

 

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/claim-myocarditis-covid-vaccines-carries-serious-risk-death-flawed-study/

 

 

Hulscher's current LinkedIn profile says he's working now, not surprisingly, for a foundation founded by McCullough:

 

Screenshot_7.jpg.199f9873b3ba420cb52c77d40576e095.jpg

 

 

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicolas-hulscher-mph-3683b1274_how-and-why-do-certain-injectable-products-activity-7262860978151673856-PjqD

 

Example #2 re bogus study co-authored by Hulscher that was withdrawn by the original journal where it was published:

 

Hulscher, McCullough and several others in their anti-vax misinfo peddling clan also collaborated on a bogus research paper claiming they did a review of published research reports on sudden death autopsies and found many of them were caused by COVID vaccines. Unfortunately for the authors, those determinations that THEY made contradicted what many of the actual studies they reviewed found, which was for the most part that COVID vaccines were NOT to blame.

 

That and other problems with their paper led to the journal where it was published ultimately withdrawing the paper, as shown below:

 

Screenshot_8.jpg.76f268631bbddf3604741e2e43f72326.jpg

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0379073824001968?via%3Dihub

 

 

The following fact check report details the travails of Hulscher and McCullough's bogus journal article, including the following:

 

Screenshot_10.thumb.jpg.299eb8116a9c0ca30e311589d2a7a816.jpg

 

"As others have pointed out before, there’s reason to suspect that the authors may have been biased in their determinations. All three adjudicators, including Dr. Peter McCullough, are well known for spreading COVID-19 misinformation. Dr. William Makis, a Canadian radiologist, has previously claimed, without evidence, that 80 Canadian doctors died from COVID-19 vaccines. The only pathologist, Dr. Roger Hodkinson, incorrectly claimed in 2020 that COVID-19 was a “hoax” and “just a bad flu.”

 

Hodkinson and McCullough, along with five other authors, are also affiliated with and have a financial interest in The Wellness Company, a supplement and telehealth company that sells unproven treatments, including for purported protection against vaccines. [emphasis added]

 

Perhaps most tellingly, the scientists who conducted many of the autopsy studies came to opposite conclusions than the review authors. Of the 240 cases, for example, 105 come from a single paper in Colombia, whose authors found “[n]o relation between the cause of death and vaccination.”  Similarly, the review authors counted 24 of 28 autopsies from a study from Singapore as vaccine-related, even though the original authors identified “no definite causative relationship” to mRNA vaccines."

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/flawed-autopsy-review-revives-unsupported-claims-of-covid-19-vaccine-harm-censorship/

 

Then last November, the anti-vax group of authors managed to get the paper published again in a different online journal headed and overseen by various anti-vaxers, including McCullough.

 

As the above fact check recounts:

 

"Update, Nov. 19: On Nov. 17, the autopsy review that sparked these initial claims and that was later withdrawn from its journal was republished online, renewing claims of censorship and the incorrect idea that the COVID-19 vaccines “are causing large numbers of deaths.” The republication outlet, Science, Public Health Policy and the Law, says it is a peer-reviewed journal, but it is not indexed on PubMed. The editor-in-chief is James Lyons-Weiler, a wellknown spreader of vaccine misinformation. Other board members, including one author of the republished paper [McCullough], are also known spreaders of vaccine misinformation."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lyons-Weiler#Controversies

 

 

 

So logically, going forward, you will refrain from saying that being an epidemiologist is a legitimacy criterion in your eyes, as it is not.

 

The criterion is being an epidemiologist who says what you want to hear.

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1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

So logically, going forward, you will refrain from saying that being an epidemiologist is a legitimacy criterion in your eyes, as it is not.

 

The criterion is being an epidemiologist who says what you want to hear.

Exactly.

 

More than a few times, I have googled the “MD” that he puts forth in some BS pro vaccine article, only to find a complete embarrassment of a doctor with a degree from some Cracker Jack Caribbean island medical school of last resort or another comparable institution.

 

And they’re usually fat too.

 

Never trust a fat doctor.

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