Congratulations Canada = Buh Bye Trudeau

[save the frogs]

6 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

That's odd. His friends in the trans community assure me he does...

Yeah, so people are complaining that Trudeau is "effeminate"?

 

Haha, so they need a Type A personality tough guy like Trump?

 

I have bad news for you homophobes. It won't be long before a Trans becomes president somewhere. 

 

 

[Thingamabob]

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You betray your ignorance.

By any chance are you an elderly white male occupying a lower socio economic demographic? (i.e. low income, minimal education, without influence and power) 

At 83 years if age, and retired, I no longer have  much power or influence, which is a blessing.

 

Life is good for which I am very grateful to my lovely wife and family.

 

 Have a nice day !

[Thingamabob]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Yeah, so people are complaining that Trudeau is "effeminate"?

 

Haha, so they need a Type A personality tough guy like Trump?

 

I have bad news for you homophobes. It won't be long before a Trans becomes president somewhere. 

 

 

Lighten up man. It's not that serious.

Have a nice day !

[Patong2021]

5 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

At 83 years if age, and retired, I no longer have  much power or influence, which is a blessing.

 

Life is good for which I am very grateful to my lovely wife and family.

 

 Have a nice day !

 

Thank you for your honesty.

[Patong2021]

7 hours ago, blazes said:

 

The joke's on you, Patty boy.  I merely queried whether "save the frogs" (as he calls himself) was indeed a frog, an acceptable slang idiom for the French in general and for Quebecers in particular.

 

As a British Columbian I can assure you that the vast majority of men in Western Canada refer to their Quebec brothers as frogs.  Full of noise and achieving nothing. Now or ever.

 

It is not acceptable. On the contrary, it is offensive, as is any other vulgar insult based on someone's heritage. And no, the vast majority of males in western Canada do not use that term. Maybe bigoted ignorant old white men do, but young people do not. Western Canadians are not the right wing extremists of the 1970's. Your out of date mindset suggests you probably come from one of the inland small towns like Kamloops  where the old folks panic when they see a "darkie".

[blazes]

57 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

It is not acceptable. On the contrary, it is offensive, as is any other vulgar insult based on someone's heritage. And no, the vast majority of males in western Canada do not use that term. Maybe bigoted ignorant old white men do, but young people do not. Western Canadians are not the right wing extremists of the 1970's. Your out of date mindset suggests you probably come from one of the inland small towns like Kamloops  where the old folks panic when they see a "darkie".

haha, nice try......I see  you  yourself are not above the odd bigoted remark , even if you use quotation marks to try to soften the blow.

 

But to  repeat: Westerners (of all ages) are deeply resentful of the reactionary hold that the French  have over Canadian  politics.

[MicroB]

On 1/7/2025 at 1:32 AM, Hanaguma said:

Obviously you have never used a Canadian hospital. The average waiting time in EMERGENCY in hospitals is from 6 to 14 hours, depending on the province. 

The economy is in decline, housing is unaffordable, idiotic carbon taxes are looming, the Canadian dollar is in freefall.  

 

Actual stats are:

 

• Half of patients with non-urgent issues are in and out of Canadian emergency departments in less than 2.6 hours, with 90% wrapping up their visit in less than 7.6 hours.  
• Patients who are more seriously ill are seen sooner but stay longer – 50% are done their visit in less than 4.1 hours, while 90% go home in less than 10 hours.  
• Those who need to be moved from the emergency department to a hospital bed wait the longest. Half make the move within 14.7 hours, while 90% are admitted within two days.

 

 

A&E in Canada works more or less the same as UK as US as everywhere. Cases are triaged. Cases needing urgent care are seen most quickly. Little Timmy with his head stuck in a saucepan isn't. Interpreting the waiting times is complex. The reasons why waiting times are getting longer are myriad, but actually kind of universal. A major reason is lack of access to a GP; you can't get to see a GP when you want, so you go to A&E, when really, 9 times out of 10, you don't need be there. This is a widespread problem across the Western world, basically down to lack of GPs (Primary Care), and that you can trace back to health policies of 20 years ago, when medical schools were recruiting young doctors, and which of those ticked the box to go into dull-as-dishwater general practice. We are getting older, living longer, but living more poorly. So lots more old people stopping you getting that GP appointment.

 

Then there is inpatient bed capacity. People who cannot be admitted to hospital stay in A&E longer. This is where Roemer's Rule kicks in, Milton Roemer was an American health researcher who observed, in the 80s, "in an insured population, a hospital bed built is a bed filled". EnocH Powell said something similar "he number of patients always tends to equality with the number of beds available for them to lie in", ie, there are never enough hospital beds for everyone. So, there is attention of admission policies and discharge. But, with an aging population, now you have bed blockers; someone treated in hospital can no longer go home, because their home is no longer safe for them.

 

Covid exposed the extremely lean nature of Canadian bed management, running at about 110% capacity, compared to the UK  at about 95% capacity.

 

The US clearly people out of hospital, too quickly it turns out. The US has the worst readmission rates in the Western world. What that means is if you go to hospital in the US, you are more likely to die after discharge than anywhere else. People readmitted to hospital are usually in a miserable state and the prognosis is poor.

 

The UK brought in "Discharge-2-Assess" during Covid, to free up beds. It meant patients who couldn't go home were sent to nursing homes for a couple of weeks. That's what happened to that Thai Youtuber, Ed Sweeney. Its not a bad approach, but the corrosive impact is the outflow of money to nursing homes that are PE owned. That's money that leaves the UK.

 

Bed capacity is a conundrum. No one wants to fund a healthcare system that full of empty beds, empty operating theatres, idle doctors etc.

 

Its not the fault of any particular government, nor will a new government fix it. These are problems decades in creation, and COVID exposed the inadequacies of conventional medicines.

 

Innovations are needed. Strangely, its US insurers and the UK NHS leading the way. US insurers are pissed off at the increased cost of medicine. That murdering loon in New York had previously undergone spinal fusion surgery after suffering chronic pain for many years. There is already much discussion in the medical community that one of the major reasons for increase in costs is unecessary surgery, and Spinal Fusion is a prime example. Spinal Fusion rates have gone up 10x in 10 years, but thats not because people's backs are getting worse. Its because docs get paid more to operate than not.

 

Insurance complains, and jumps in to block claims, and doctors complain about interferance when the Insurance company says they will pay for an epidural not spinal surgery. Insurance companies are pissed off about readmission rates, because that means more pay out, and the patient is likely to die anyhow. So, they are cutting reimbursement rates unless hospitals pull their finger out and sort out the numbers. That's forcing hospitals to invest in community nurses, apparently a revelation in the US, and investing in algorithms that can predict whether a discharged patient needs help. It saves money, and stops people going to hospital , meaning beds are freed up.

 

The NHS is the biggest employer in Europe. Its the biggest single healthcare system in the world. It has, despite the moans, a huge budget. It has a lot of money for innovation, and so has its own Digital Health Arm, developing apps with the prime objective of stopping people using the NHS. Its all using nudge theory; by putting up barriers, people who aren't all that sick don't block up A&E. The results are a very good national phone service; I really can talk to a doctor on the phone and get useful advice. They rolled out an AO powered online diagnostic service. At first glance, it looks a bit noddy, but behind it is powerful analytics, triaging patients  before they go to hospital.

 

There are websites comparing waiting times. They are complete bull<deleted>. One site claims the averqge wait in Canada is 2.1 hours. The same site claims the wait in India is 18 minutes. By their measure, an Indian state hospital is the best in the world. Indians would respectfully disagree. The data is complex, and its impossible to make country to country comparisons, because its apples to oranges.

[Patong2021]

10 hours ago, blazes said:

haha, nice try......I see  you  yourself are not above the odd bigoted remark , even if you use quotation marks to try to soften the blow.

 

But to  repeat: Westerners (of all ages) are deeply resentful of the reactionary hold that the French  have over Canadian  politics.

 

You are speaking as an elderly white bigoted male who is clueless to what people under the age of 40  believe. The "French"  have  no control over  Canadian politics, except in their capacity as being a sizeable ethnic population in some regions. The "French" cannot elect the provincial or territorial governments in 12 of 13 jurisdictions. Nor do they have the votes to form a national government. As per the recent  minority government representing a majority of the electorate, that government was a Liberal government dominated by Ontario seats and  kept in power by the NDP.

 

Yes, Quebec  speaks out. It was the reason why the federal government finally reduced the number of temporary Canadians allowed in. It was Quebec that highlighted the problem of the swollen refugee numbers and it was Quebec that built the coalition with Ontario to change the refugee numbers allowed in. To date, the only people who seem to have bene taking a stand to defend the Canadian identity were the "French". The Western governments and BC certainly were not vocal on the issue.

[blazes]

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You are speaking as an elderly white bigoted male who is clueless to what people under the age of 40  believe. The "French"  have  no control over  Canadian politics, except in their capacity as being a sizeable ethnic population in some regions. The "French" cannot elect the provincial or territorial governments in 12 of 13 jurisdictions. Nor do they have the votes to form a national government. As per the recent  minority government representing a majority of the electorate, that government was a Liberal government dominated by Ontario seats and  kept in power by the NDP.

 

Yes, Quebec  speaks out. It was the reason why the federal government finally reduced the number of temporary Canadians allowed in. It was Quebec that highlighted the problem of the swollen refugee numbers and it was Quebec that built the coalition with Ontario to change the refugee numbers allowed in. To date, the only people who seem to have bene taking a stand to defend the Canadian identity were the "French". The Western governments and BC certainly were not vocal on the issue.

 

What an absolute joke!!!!  You have the French, whose main political goal is to extinguish the English language in Quebec, "defending the Canadian identity"!!!!!!!   What utter mindless poppycock. 

 

  Quebec, incidentally, could not exist without  the billions of dollars  of transfer funds pumped in from Western Canada.  I do hope  the French will one day win the referendum to separate from the rest of Canada, so that we can all laugh all the way to the bank to deposit our savings.