Here comes the smog (do do do do)...

[harryviking]

20 hours ago, BarBoy said:

It's that time of year again when the smog blankets the country in a hazardous haze.

 

I've seen it as high as 200 today in some places.

every year it's the same shtick.

nothing is ever done about it.

people complain for a couple of months and then once Songkran comes all is forgotten until next year.

 

when will this ridiculous merry go round end?

will they ever be able to curb the annual pollution problems in LOS?

it is especially dangerous for children and the elderly, supposedly vulnerable groups but it seems nobody gives a stuff.

 

why worry when you've got amulets, right?....

Soon we will have the same blah blah blah from the people in charge about everything will be better soon! Yeah...sure...LOS...Land Of Smog!!

[NewMexicanInThailand]

It is never going to change.

I just moved from Chiang Mai to a southern beach town to improve my air quality. My new home is not perfect but is much better than the north.

[BarBoy]

2 minutes ago, NewMexicanInThailand said:

It is never going to change.

I just moved from Chiang Mai to a southern beach town to improve my air quality. My new home is not perfect but is much better than the north.

All the best at your new pad mate!

[SiSePuede419]

Can't blame it on the North, burning rice fields, forest for mushrooms.

 

The "smog" is worse down south.

 

There's no "forest" down there to burn nor rice fields, It's all jungle and condos and coconut trees and you don't burn those--you have a monkey run up and throw the coconuts down. 🐒

 

 

 

 

[CygnusX1]

First morning this burning season that I can’t see the nearby island of Koh Larn from my condo in Jomtien. 

[BoganInParasite]

Went for a scenic drive a couple of days ago to a 1,200 metre Hmong village Ban Doi Tio on #4022 a bit to the west of Tha Wang Pha north of Nan city. Didn't bother taking any photos because visibility at the viewpoints was probably down to a couple of kilometers. Really didn't expect that this time of year. (Based on the number of brand new tractors/ploughs and two nurseries it would seem local agriculture and baby making are booming up there.)

[dinsdale]

You obviously don't live in or around Bangkok where smog is basically a daily.

[Tropicalevo]

23 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I dont have a wife or kids or dogs so I just upped and moved to Cambodia. Easier

Lots of 'red' and fires on the map for Cambodia today.

Siam Reap 165 (unhealthy).

Mabybe you need to clean those rose tinted glasses.

 

https://www.iqair.com/air-quality-map?lat=9.53567&lng=99.93567&zoomLevel=10

[BarBoy]

5 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Mabybe you need to clean those rose tinted glasses.

are they the same glasses that many members seem to have with regards to Thailand?

[spidermike007]

The government should offer incentives, for the farmers to switch crops. This is 2021. Rice and sugar worked in previous centuries. Now, they do not make any sense. Too labor intensive, too much degradation of the land, water, air, and resources. Let's get with the times. Let us move forward. 

 

I know I am dreaming. It takes a progressive administration to do these kinds of things, and little Thaksin and her gang are as regressive as they come. The "real youth" must prevail.

 

The dinosaurs must be forced to the side, and the youth must figure out a way to lead this nation forward. Otherwise, it is nothing but darkness, that will prevail.

 

They shut down the economy due to covid. But, burning cane is ok. Can't they see the effect it is having on the air? Do they care one iota? Don't the leaders live here too? Why are they MIA? Why don't the "do nothing guys" do something for a change? 

 

When the crop burning starts to kill the population, and lowers the quality of life for those of us who don't die, isn't it time to take action? We just don't need the sugar. Shut down this toxic, heinous industry. Lock up the farmers. Sieze their land. Do whatever it takes. 

 

[Yagoda]

19 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Lots of 'red' and fires on the map for Cambodia today.

Siam Reap 165 (unhealthy).

Mabybe you need to clean those rose tinted glasses.

 

https://www.iqair.com/air-quality-map?lat=9.53567&lng=99.93567&zoomLevel=10

I play with the long term, not an example from a moment in time that no matter how bad, is still better that the air in the Chao Phraya valley.

 

Damn the air is clean in North America isnt it?

[Celsius]

23 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Not too bad in Chiang Rai, PM 2.5 in my condo is 48.

 

yea right.

 

Asthma also gets better with inhalers.

[BarBoy]

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The government should offer incentives, for the farmers to switch crops. This is 2021. Rice and sugar worked in previous centuries. Now, they do not make any sense. Too labor intensive, too much degradation of the land, water, air, and resources. Let's get with the times. Let us move forward. 

Jeez Mike, don't you think you are asking a little too much of this current 'government'? Ung Ing and pals are far too busy buying luxury cars and watches to be concerned with actually HELPING people.. What do you think being in power is for?? Surely you didn't think they were going to do any work, god forbid?...

 

Thailand had a chance to move forward in 2023 but the powers that be didn't want that, so it was chalked off as yet another chance squandered....

[black tabby12345]

One of my friends living in Bkk, took a refugee in Chiang Mai rural area to escape from the smog in the capital.

He has been asthmatic since his childhood.

Hope his condition will be stable.

[PeterA]

We here in Phimai get it year round. People burning Eucalyptus to make charcoal. 

Can't see to the horizon because  of the thick blanket of smoke every damn day. 

The government does nothing. 

 

[BuyBitcoin]

On 1/7/2025 at 8:48 AM, BarBoy said:

It's that time of year again when the smog blankets the country in a hazardous haze.

 

I've seen it as high as 200 today in some places.

every year it's the same shtick.

nothing is ever done about it.

people complain for a couple of months and then once Songkran comes all is forgotten until next year.

 

when will this ridiculous merry go round end?

will they ever be able to curb the annual pollution problems in LOS?

it is especially dangerous for children and the elderly, supposedly vulnerable groups but it seems nobody gives a stuff.

 

why worry when you've got amulets, right?....

And the safe limit was always 20 andonly increased because of China never being able to get close.  China raised it to 50.  Any particles below 2.5 is dangerous and get into the cardiovascular/pulmonary system.

[DD86]

On 1/7/2025 at 8:48 AM, BarBoy said:

It's that time of year again when the smog blankets the country in a hazardous haze.

 

I've seen it as high as 200 today in some places.

every year it's the same shtick.

nothing is ever done about it.

people complain for a couple of months and then once Songkran comes all is forgotten until next year.

 

when will this ridiculous merry go round end?

will they ever be able to curb the annual pollution problems in LOS?

it is especially dangerous for children and the elderly, supposedly vulnerable groups but it seems nobody gives a stuff.

 

why worry when you've got amulets, right?....

Your avatar tells me that it is all Putin's fault.

[DD86]

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

>Rice and sugar worked in previous centuries.<

A Thai hasn't eaten if the Thai didn't have steamed rice. Forget to not farm rice.

A Thai doesn't like the taste of food if th\rere is no sugar in it. Forget it.

And not the least the big farm companies and their influence. So, forget it.

 

 

 

 

[DD86]

In Chiang Mai there were hardly clear days in 2024. If it is not wealthy smog, what is it besides the occasional burning months when the sun is a red ball in the afternoon. I leave conspiracy theories aside.

[motdaeng]

4 hours ago, BuyBitcoin said:

And the safe limit was always 20 andonly increased because of China never being able to get close.  China raised it to 50.  Any particles below 2.5 is dangerous and get into the cardiovascular/pulmonary system.

 

 The WHO air quality guideline (AQG) states that annual average concentrations of PM2.5 should not exceed 5 µg/m3, while 24-hour average exposures should not exceed 15 µg/m3 more than 3 - 4 days per year.

(PM 2.5 of 25 µg/m3 = AQI 78 ... !!!)

 

we do use air purifier since the end of the raining season ... we try to take the health risk of the pollution seriously, not like the thai politicians ...

[atpeace]

On 1/7/2025 at 10:05 AM, Lacessit said:

Not too bad in Chiang Rai, PM 2.5 in my condo is 48.

Famous last words 😉  It's coming...

[atpeace]

Have exercise induced asthma so when it hits here, I'll be exercising in my exercise room watching lots of Youtube.  It is frustrating but past being miserable during the short burning season here which last usually 1-2 months.  If I lived in Chiang Mai, I would be making plans to escape for a few months.  

[UbonEagle]

As the map suggests, the far eastern section of the country this time of year has what I consider pretty good AQ.

We are on the outskirts of muang Ubon and even with localised lighting the sky view at night is very very clear. 

Not always like this of course but we don't have some of the ingredients of the far north that contribute to poor AQ - mountainous areas with hard to contain wildfire often triggered by reckless illegal burning, sugar cane, heavy industries