8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

They arent and it didnt The poster that said that is, as always, lying

Are you sure?

 

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The issue caught the attention of the Government Accountability Office in 2021 when it issued a report. In its findings, the GAO reported that as many as 70 U.S. citizens had been deported over the previous 5 years.

 

Man who claims he's a U.S. citizen repeatedly has been deported to Mexico. It's complicated

 

https://www.tpr.org/news/2024-05-30/man-who-claims-hes-a-u-s-citizen-repeatedly-has-been-deported-to-mexico-its-complicated

5 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

All US citizens have a 9 digit social security number, which they need for almost everything in the US, like getting a drivers license, a bank account, a job, a passport etc. All they have to do is run the number!

Which of course all people liable for targeting as "illegal" have any one of which hung prominently in view for reference for ICE Gestapo types regardless of actual legal status due to non conformist ethnic appearances.

However if not then suffer the experience of being summarily incarcerated and transported to an evacuation center while protestations are ignored in the cacophony of similar  non legitimate objections .

Trump has embarked on a direction not  dissimilar to that of an infamous French Queen who due to self indulgent ignorance dismissed reality to the point her head fell off !

 

7 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Proving you are US citizen is very simple!

 

That's not necessarily the case. As the article below points out: 

 

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When you're locked up, it's hard to dig up a birth certificate or a passport or, in Garza's case, request a naturalization certificate from immigration.

 

You Say You're An American, But What If You Had To Prove It Or Be Deported?

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/22/504031635/you-say-you-re-an-american-but-what-if-you-had-to-prove-it-or-be-deported

 

Don't forget that in deportation hearings, it's up to the accused illegal immigrant to prove they're a US citizen (if that's what they're claiming) and if they can't do so, they're subject to deportation.

 

In these hearings you're basically presumed guilty and have to prove your innocence.

Maybe Thailand should take a page from 47's book and not only crack down hard on illegals and on those who abuse the system by using agents to pretend the illegal meets the requirements to stay in country, but also raise the bar so that fewer lowlifes settle in Thailand under retirement or marriage visas.

 

Anyone who settles in Thailand, and is going to add value to the Kingdom, should certainly have much more money that a measly 800,000 baht or whatever the requirements are.  Raising the standard to, say, 10-20,000,000 baht would draw a better class of individual, as well as provide a larger economic punch to the country. 

 

Anyone raised in the West, and of retirement age, who doesn't have that sort of money saved is kind of a failure and certainly Thailand doesn't need to pollute its culture with lowlifes. It would also seem that such individuals---most likely to be MAGAs---would be happier back home, closer to their love muffin in the White House, or else back home in other Western nations where they could go to work fixing the problems they constantly whine about in their native lands.

59 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Are you sure?

 

 

Man who claims he's a U.S. citizen repeatedly has been deported to Mexico. It's complicated

 

https://www.tpr.org/news/2024-05-30/man-who-claims-hes-a-u-s-citizen-repeatedly-has-been-deported-to-mexico-its-complicated

Nice error ratio,  70 out of millions.

10 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I am wondering who has costed this operation, and whether they have factored in the compensation coming to those who are deported illegally.

 

I guess it will stop when farmers leave their crops rotting in and on the ground, and start marching on Washington.

 

Coming to a supermarket near you - higher food prices.

Costed?

Surely the Mexicans will pay?

12 hours ago, proton said:

 

How would they deport US citizens? did that happen when Obama deported over 5.3 million?

Yes. There are always some that are accidentally deported.

4 hours ago, Anthony mellows said:

If they are all deported to their country of origin, they will need a hell alot of planes.

Yepp! How many planes/flights will it take to deport 5 to 10 million?

How many buses/trains?

 

By Walking down the Streets: How can the "arresting forces" know witch hispanic is here illegally versus a legal hispanic?
 

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Yes. There are always some that are accidentally deported.

 

Evidence? Obama might have but what could expect from that clown

Trump is absolutely brilliant, many illegals are even packing themselves up at this point and heading back to border.

 

The financial drain on social services they cause is unreal, 0 birth control practices popping out babies who get totally free medical care all billed to the US taxpayer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The temporary migrant worker visa has minimum wage requirements and working conditions imposed by the Department of Labor.

 

Farmers want the cheapest labor possible, so they can make a profit or even survive as a going concern. Illegals enable that.

 

Farmers will either push up prices to keep going, or quit. Either way, the product on a supermarket shelf gets more expensive.

 

I have no issue with the US deporting bad guys, but it seems to me America is shooting itself in the foot if it exports illegals who just want to work, and send money back home.

 

 

Spot on,just wait till food prices triple or quadruple and the felons gaslighting with his drill baby drill nonsense doesn’t bear fruit.its going to be comical to listen to this segment of delusional fools try to blame anyone other than the NY city trust fund baby…….not even mentioning his tariffs (tax) fiasco coming to each and every consumer soon ……oh and btw applying for asylum is lawful in the United States.

17 hours ago, Mark989 said:

"Zero tolerance"....lol....Rules For Thee, Not For Me.

To wit: 

Donald Trump America’s deplorable 45^th & 47^th POTUS a convicted felon (34 counts), adjudicated rapist, convicted of defamation, repeatedly convicted business fraudster, state and federal quadruply indicted (91 counts) of some of the most serious crimes in a Constitutional Republic, Vietnam War repeatedly criminally fraudulently draft-dodger, infamously unprecedented dishonest Republican, Christian supported (adulterer with all three wives) who referred to WW1 American Veterans that gave their life for their country as “losers & suckers” according to one of four of his Chiefs-of-Staff General Kelly.

As some may recall and the record shows Melania Knauss (later the 3^rd wife of the Christian claiming adulterer (with all his wives) was challenged in 2016 to disclose her US Green Card and US Citizenship applications but she categorically refused to comply.

 

This is from the woman who enthusiastically participated in the "Obama birther conspiracy" demanding to see his documents.

Misrepresenting the truth on these forms is a federal crime (perjury) and can (does) result in deportation and barred from re-entry for several years (5 or more).

At issue is Melania's proven employment in 1996 in NYC. That is not in dispute. She was in the USA at that time on a Tourist Visa. Employment in the USA is not allowed on a Tourist Visa.

I believe the evidence will eventually prove she is America’s only illegal alien to serve as FLOTUS.

To this day Russia prevents reputable scholars from accessing WW2 archives. Just this week the US government classified files on the JFK, RFK, and MLK files were finally released, we are told. It can take a long time for the historical record to be set straight on the truth of the matter.

Ask yourselves, if she has nothing to hide why does she not put this speculation to rest? Especially given her behavior supporting the “birther conspiracy” with her husband as the main protagonist.

Zero tolerance my arse.

Seems like you have a slight obsession with the present POTUS to come up with all that.

Do you have any thoughts on the previous draft dodging incumbent of the W H telling lies and giving his son a pardon when he said he wouldn't? I won't hold my breath waiting for a reply.

 

Meanwhile in the real world, Trump is POTUS and laying waste to everything the woke hold dear.

Enjoy the next 4 years- 😪

 

8 hours ago, swissie said:

By Walking down the Streets: How can the "arresting forces" know witch hispanic is here illegally versus a legal hispanic?
 

Generally they can by asking for proof of citizenship- Not hard to do.

8 hours ago, swissie said:

Yepp! How many planes/flights will it take to deport 5 to 10 million?

How many buses/trains?

 

He's got 4 years to do it in, and hopefully many will self deport. If they can walk from the Darien to the border and climb over the wall, they can do it in the opposite direction through the gate ( don't have to climb back over the wall ).

 

Bye bye illegals, don't come back.

23 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You are naive. 

Such citizen deportations have happened before but with a historic mass deportation of many millions as Trump promises, they will happen a lot more.

As they will tend to not be maga white people, don't expect the maga movement to care about that.

 

Strange comment. Illegal aliens, in any country, rightly face deportation unless exceptional circumstances apply.

Looks like Mexico is only taking back Mexican citizens, those military aircrafts will be Globetrotting dropping all them illegals on their home turf......

8 hours ago, Tug said:

Spot on,just wait till food prices triple or quadruple and the felons gaslighting with his drill baby drill nonsense doesn’t bear fruit.its going to be comical to listen to this segment of delusional fools try to blame anyone other than the NY city trust fund baby…….not even mentioning his tariffs (tax) fiasco coming to each and every consumer soon ……oh and btw applying for asylum is lawful in the United States.

 

How many of those New York City newcomers are picking strawberries in the city?  While costing taxpayers (according to Dem mayor Adams) $36,000 per head every year...

 

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:49 AM, Cryingdick said:

There is no requirement to deliver anybody to their country of origin. To successfully deport an illegal alien you just need a spot that takes them anywhere in the world. They can volunteer where they are from if they don't like the choice provided.

 

So in that respect the world is their oyster.

And which country will do that? I see Mexico just refused a plane load.

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

How many of those New York City newcomers are picking strawberries in the city?  While costing taxpayers (according to Dem mayor Adams) $36,000 per head every year...

 

 

That is true about the number of strawberry pickers in NY, what will hit the USA consumer is the people not turning up for work on the farms, this will push up the price of food which you pay for, so will you be happy?

 

I agree that immigration needs to be sorted, illegals sorted as well.

 

A more structured way would be better, maybe guarantee work for the farms, get them documented? Already it is having and affect.

 

Fear of deportation has led to a sharp drop in farm worker attendance across California's agricultural heartland, leaving crops unharvested following U.S. President Donald Trump's immigration crackdown, local news outlets have reported. 

The immediate impact is evident in Kern County, one of the nation's most productive agricultural regions. Over the last two weeks, growers have seen sharp declines in their workforce attendance, which they attribute to heightened immigration crackdowns.

Citrus grower and former Kern County Farm Bureau president, Peter Belluomini, reported that his usual harvest crew dropped from 30 workers to just five, saying many were "hiding at home" out of fear.

12 minutes ago, stupidfarang said:

That is true about the number of strawberry pickers in NY, what will hit the USA consumer is the people not turning up for work on the farms, this will push up the price of food which you pay for, so will you be happy?

 

There are programs in place to legally import as many strawberry pickers as they need.  There always have been.  Who won't then be a $36K a year burden on the taxpayers.  They come in, do their work, then go home.

 

The legal migrant workers who aren't showing up for work are victims of lefty fear mongering. 

 

The illegal ones?  Getting them to leave is worth paying a little more for strawberries.  We'll make it up by not paying hotel bills and free healthcare.  To the tune of hundreds of $$ billions a year.

 

Trump didn't bring on this upset in the system.  He's cleaning up the mess that Harris/Biden left us, hoping to turn states perpetually Blue.

 

So great of him to order these filthy scum of the earth out!

20 minutes ago, stupidfarang said:

That is true about the number of strawberry pickers in NY, what will hit the USA consumer is the people not turning up for work on the farms, this will push up the price of food which you pay for, so will you be happy?

 

I agree that immigration needs to be sorted, illegals sorted as well.

 

A more structured way would be better, maybe guarantee work for the farms, get them documented? Already it is having and affect.

 

Fear of deportation has led to a sharp drop in farm worker attendance across California's agricultural heartland, leaving crops unharvested following U.S. President Donald Trump's immigration crackdown, local news outlets have reported. 

The immediate impact is evident in Kern County, one of the nation's most productive agricultural regions. Over the last two weeks, growers have seen sharp declines in their workforce attendance, which they attribute to heightened immigration crackdowns.

Citrus grower and former Kern County Farm Bureau president, Peter Belluomini, reported that his usual harvest crew dropped from 30 workers to just five, saying many were "hiding at home" out of fear.

Great news!

27 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Great news!

 

If Trump is able to implement a work requirement for the able bodied to qualify for welfare, maybe they'll have Americans picking those oranges and strawberries.  Win-win.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:37 AM, impulse said:

About the only bit of compassion I can scrape up is for the people that Harris/Biden convinced to waste $10,000 of their money to pay the cartels to enter the US illegally.  To most of them, that's a lot of money.

 

The Dems should offer those people a refund.  Maybe from their campaign funds.

 

 

How about all the criminality that took place during Bidens call to purge the Border , Deaths, Murders,human trafficking, Fentanyl distribution.

 

Doesnt that count for anything?

 

https://oversight.house.gov/release/wrap-up-biden-administrations-policies-have-fueled-worst-border-crisis-in-u-s-history/

58 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

If Trump is able to implement a work requirement for the able bodied to qualify for welfare, maybe they'll have Americans picking those oranges and strawberries.  Win-win.

 

Its a good idea, able body disable people must contribute!

Even the millions who are on SSDI!

 

Billions & billions of dollars will be saved.

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

How about all the criminality that took place during Bidens call to purge the Border , Deaths, Murders,human trafficking, Fentanyl distribution.

 

Doesnt that count for anything?

 

https://oversight.house.gov/release/wrap-up-biden-administrations-policies-have-fueled-worst-border-crisis-in-u-s-history/

Was it there during your heroes term during 2016/20.....?    

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seems like you have a slight obsession with the present POTUS to come up with all that.

Do you have any thoughts on the previous draft dodging incumbent of the W H telling lies and giving his son a pardon when he said he wouldn't? I won't hold my breath waiting for a reply.

 

Meanwhile in the real world, Trump is POTUS and laying waste to everything the woke hold dear.

Enjoy the next 4 years- 😪

 

Brilliant retort 

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seems like you have a slight obsession with the present POTUS to come up with all that.

Do you have any thoughts on the previous draft dodging incumbent of the W H telling lies and giving his son a pardon when he said he wouldn't? I won't hold my breath waiting for a reply.

 

Meanwhile in the real world, Trump is POTUS and laying waste to everything the woke hold dear.

Enjoy the next 4 years- 😪

 

Draft dodging, that was your hero Trump, and now even a felon..........🤕

 

But, you are lucky, he is not leading your own country, though he might try and buy it, eh..........😂

21 hours ago, illisdean said:

You, in spite of your obvious deluded sense and irrational consensus should be focused on President Trumps America First promise to deport DANGEROUS illegal aliens and not someone who may or may not have worked prior to receiving they work permit some 30 years ago. But, maybe send a request to President Trump to deport Melania if it makes you feel better, soothing your butt-hurt maybe allowing you to come to your senses and forget all your rage and hatred. And, or, maybe just cope with your liberal loss and enjoy the MAGA Trump ride the next 48 months or so. 

 

 

Consensus,Must be from that Msnbc noise they/ thems listen too .

MASA sounds like common sense!