Queries for clarification on Work Permit expiry and extension of stay

[jojothai]

I need some help to clarify cancelling my work permit when it expires on 7th March and the associated extension of stay.

Grateful if somebody can clarify some issues or refer me to a recent thread.

Some advice states that I have to get a letter from my employer. Others say that I can use a signed letter stating I want to cancel my Work Permit and Non-B Visa. But that seems to be if I do it myself.   However from a thread here I understand that the employer is responsible to notify the Labour Department within 15 days. 
Is this correct? Then I simply give it to my employer to cancel.

I was told at immigration that I have to cancel the work permit then cancel my visa extension of stay.
Do I have to cancel the extension of stay? 
The problem I have is that I think that I will leave country a day or two before the work permit expires and give it to my employer to cancel. Then I cannot cancel the existing extension of stay.
When I go out of country, I will be coming back in visa exempt to get a married non-o 90 day. 
When I return I presume that i can just tell the immigration officer to ignore the old extension of stay.
Will that be ok?
 

[BrandonJT]

If you are on an extension of stay based on work with a work permit, you MUST cancel the work permit and the extension of stay. You signed a document when you got your extension that said you would notify immigration of any change in status. You stopping your job is a change of status and you must inform them and cancel your extension.  If you do not do so, you will be fined 500 baht per day from the day you stopped working (to a maximum of 20,000 baht) and you will not be able to get your non-O visa until you cancel your work extension.  Even if it ends, that doesn't matter. You still have to cancel it.

 

You would notify your employer that you will stop working and get a letter from them stating your last day of work.  You take this letter along with your work permit to the depart of labor and cancel your work permit.  You then take your cancelled work permit and this letter to the immigration office that issued your extension and cancel your extension.  This can usually be done about a week in advance of the date on the letter that you still stop working. They will cancel your extension and stamp you in until the date on the letter.

[DrJack54]

OP, Here is answer to your identical thread.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1350503-queries-relating-to-work-permit-expiry-and-cancellation-of-extension-of-stay/#findComment-19555367 

 

 

[jojothai]

8 minutes ago, BrandonJT said:

If you are on an extension of stay based on work with a work permit, you MUST cancel the work permit and the extension of stay. You signed a document when you got your extension that said you would notify immigration of any change in status. You stopping your job is a change of status and you must inform them and cancel your extension.  If you do not do so, you will be fined 500 baht per day from the day you stopped working (to a maximum of 20,000 baht) and you will not be able to get your non-O visa until you cancel your work extension.  Even if it ends, that doesn't matter. You still have to cancel it.

 

You would notify your employer that you will stop working and get a letter from them stating your last day of work.  You take this letter along with your work permit to the depart of labor and cancel your work permit.  You then take your cancelled work permit and this letter to the immigration office that issued your extension and cancel your extension.  This can usually be done about a week in advance of the date on the letter that you still stop working. They will cancel your extension and stamp you in until the date on the letter.

Understood thanks. I will have to also read the thread posted by Dr Jack54. 
Problem I have is that I am based outside Bangkok. I have to consider how to get my extension cancelled at immigration the same day I am going to leave Bangkok.
The work permit will not have been cancelled when I leave if i leave a day or two before it expires. The  employer is responsible and has 15 days to do so.
I presume that I will need the letter from my employer to take to immigration to cancel the extension.
My employer is very good in support of things and I can ask them  how to do this.
 

[jojothai]

14 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

OP, Here is answer to your identical thread.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1350503-queries-relating-to-work-permit-expiry-and-cancellation-of-extension-of-stay/#findComment-19555367 

 

 

thanks DrJack
I tried the thread but unfortunately i get back the message "We could not find that topic."

[BrandonJT]

1 hour ago, jojothai said:

Understood thanks. I will have to also read the thread posted by Dr Jack54. 
Problem I have is that I am based outside Bangkok. I have to consider how to get my extension cancelled at immigration the same day I am going to leave Bangkok.
The work permit will not have been cancelled when I leave if i leave a day or two before it expires. The  employer is responsible and has 15 days to do so.
I presume that I will need the letter from my employer to take to immigration to cancel the extension.
My employer is very good in support of things and I can ask them  how to do this.
 

I told you, you can do this ahead of time. You don't need to do and leave the same day.  Also most immigration offices will not let you cancel the extension unless you have the cancelled work permit, so you can't just leave that to the employer.  

[jojothai]

2 hours ago, BrandonJT said:

I told you, you can do this ahead of time. You don't need to do and leave the same day.  Also most immigration offices will not let you cancel the extension unless you have the cancelled work permit, so you can't just leave that to the employer.  

If the work permit has to be cancelled before the extension then they both have to be done on the same day.

if ahead of time then it needs to be done from outside Bangkok? i said that  i am not in Bangkok.

I will still be working until the work permit expires so if i have to cancel early i cannot work. I work remotely. I am supposed to work up to the last day.

Then i cannot leave the country, unless i do it all on one day, as necessary

It needs more explanation please than just saying i told you.

 

As i understand it, there is no need to cancel the work permit for up to 15 days after it expires, so there should be another way of doing this otherwise the 15 days is nonsense, unless i can continue to stay for the 15 days - but i cannot.

From what you are saying if the work permit has to be cancelled first,  then the work permit has to be cancelled and the extension on the same day, then i presume i must have to immediately get an extension to stay the extra 7 days.

That what i now think and needs to be clarified.

At present it seems that i am going to have to send my documents to my employer and get them to do cancellations on the same day, which would preferably be the date of work permit expiry.

Then i collect the documents either the same day to go to airport, or collect the documents to leave within the 7 days that should be given at immigration.

 

[BrandonJT]

It doesn't have to be done on the same day.  Why would it?

Step 1: Get letter from company.
Step 2: Cancel work permit for a future date
Step 3: Cancel extension for a future date

All of those things are separate, but need to be done before the date work will stop if you want extra time to leave. Otherwise you must leave the same day you stopped working.