American Woman, more =uppity= nowadays?: American Woman, stay away from me..!?

[GammaGlobulin]

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I do understand child development, not only from personal experience having 6 kids, but being one myself.

 

NO.

I am not talking about your experience.

 

I am talking about Child Development.

 

Maybe this simple Piaget page might help...

 

Please also remember...

 

It is useless to debate.

Why?

Nobody is ever convinced that a contrary position might be correct, and thus change his mind.

This just does not happen.

 

Any change in view, or in belief, must arise organically and not through argument.

Meaning that one changes one's own views through experience.

 

You might think that you are exceptional at reading Chinese facial expressions, but I DOUBT it.

You have not had that much time at it.

 

You are unaware of the subtle mannerisms.

 

And, I don't really doubt, that you even think all Chinese look alike.

 

But as I say, debate is always pointless.

 

Just an exercise in futility for those that enjoy this kind of thing....

Sort of like auto-eroticism....

 

It is completely one-sided.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

 A normal woman needs more than money, although providing is high on her list. Many women cheat on rich men because they are all about money themselves, and think they're somehow better than everyone because of this, even if they got that money by raping the environment or hurting others in some way. A fat old man that listens to and treats his wife with respect is a much better husband than a lean narcissist that thinks he's god's gift, not understanding in a few years he'll also be a fat old man, but still a narcissist, and not a catch for anyone. Beta males are the real men, who raise kids and strengthen the household, while the alpha losers ruin families and businesses with their arrogance and ego. Times have indeed changed. It's much easier to expose a narcissist now than ever before, and they usually end up all alone, or with a woman that's only there for the cash.

Proclaims a guy that's never managed to meet one of these imaginary "normal women"

 

Come on Fred, give us a clue, if you can't find one despite having Gods help, what chance do the rest of us have of meeting one?

[fredwiggy]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

I agree with you.

 

Also, you are completely correct about the Chinese-American "reporter".

 

Instead of thinking for herself, she sucked in the uni-pablum at one particular time in America, and she did this without first subjecting this garbage pablum to critical analysis.

 

She was warped by taking the wrong courses at the wrong school, and doing so without the experience to see other sides to every tidbit her profs were feeding her.

 

There have been many young families from China who emigrate to the USA with very young children.  And then, the parents and children never again see eye-to-eye....and FILIAL PIETY is thrown out the window.  I would NEVER take children the USA, if I were Chinese.  Wait until the kids are at least at college age.  Or, better yet, skip the undergad years and just go for the grad schools in the USA which are good.  But the undergrad schools are a WASTE of money.  Pure WASTE.  You can get a good undergrad education in Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, and China....and then, maybe, go to the USA for grad work.

 

 

The American Woman is full of rage, even if this American Woman is of Chinese ethnicity.

America is worse than a Re-Education Camp for young Asian Women.

Therefore, Chinese Parents....

Please beware of this trap.

 

 

Again, you need to stop commenting on things you know little to nothing about. You have not been to the US in 45 years, so your opinion means nothing. You're ass kissing of the Chinese doesn't work here, as most of us know what the China thinking is about.There are countless Chinese women who are abused and looked down upon by their men, which is the same thinking in all of Asia, mainly because of Buddhist thinking about a woman's place. A Chinese woman who moved to America is still a Chinese woman, although she's a US citizen and is smart enough to see what Trump is all about, something which many of his voters still don't see.

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Proclaims a guy that's never managed to meet one of these imaginary "normal women"

 

Come on Fred, give us a clue, if you can't find one despite having Gods help, what chance do the rest of us have of meeting one?

Who says I haven't met any normal women? I've had almost 100 girlfriends, and many of them were very nice, stable women. The ones I married is what you've heard about. Those were my bad choices where I could have done a lot better with many of the girls I dated. That I had children with them is the only reason I stayed at all. Normal women aren't imaginary. They're just the jewels we hope to someday find, and you will, if you have faith and avoid toxic ones as soon as possible.

[GammaGlobulin]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Again, you need to stop commenting on things you know little to nothing about. You have not been to the US in 45 years, so your opinion means nothing. You're ass kissing of the Chinese doesn't work here, as most of us know what the China thinking is about.There are countless Chinese women who are abused and looked down upon by their men, which is the same thinking in all of Asia, mainly because of Buddhist thinking about a woman's place. A Chinese woman who moved to America is still a Chinese woman, although she's a US citizen and is smart enough to see what Trump is all about, something which many of his voters still don't see.

 

Reading your paragraph, I don't know where to even begin.

So, I guess I will not begin.

 

Except to say, as I just mentioned, it is impossible to educate someone who is unwilling to be educated.

 

This is the same problem we often experience when leading a horse to water, before crossing a desert, when the horse refuses to drink, not realizing what is up ahead of him.

 

 

[BritManToo]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Who says I haven't met any normal women? I've had almost 100 girlfriends, and many of them were very nice, stable women. The ones I married is what you've heard about. Those were my bad choices where I could have done a lot better with many of the girls I dated. That I had children with them is the only reason I stayed at all. Normal women aren't imaginary. They're just the jewels we hope to someday find, and you will, if you have faith and avoid toxic ones as soon as possible.

So you met your "normal women" but none of them wanted you!

More likely they would have turned out like your other wives, if they had stuck around long enough.

[fredwiggy]

6 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

NO.

I am not talking about your experience.

 

I am talking about Child Development.

 

Maybe this simple Piaget page might help...

 

Please also remember...

 

It is useless to debate.

Why?

Nobody is ever convinced that a contrary position might be correct, and thus change his mind.

This just does not happen.

 

Any change in view, or in belief, must arise organically and not through argument.

Meaning that one changes one's own views through experience.

 

You might think that you are exceptional at reading Chinese facial expressions, but I DOUBT it.

You have not had that much time at it.

 

You are unaware of the subtle mannerisms.

 

And, I don't really doubt, that you even think all Chinese look alike.

 

But as I say, debate is always pointless.

 

Just an exercise in futility for those that enjoy this kind of thing....

Sort of like auto-eroticism....

 

It is completely one-sided.

 

 

 

 

 

 

GG, I've read that, along with hundreds of other books and articles on children, so I could help the ones I've had, especially because their mothers were not parents and only egg donors. And try not thinking others don't understand Chinese women and you're some kind of expert. Do you have a Chinese girlfriend or wife, or any long lasting relationships with any, or are you just on the outside reading a few stories about how they might think? Again, it's best not to assume you know me, nor anyone else here.

[GammaGlobulin]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Do you have a Chinese girlfriend or wife, or any long lasting relationships with any, or are you just on the outside reading a few stories

 

Your comment reminds me of this old song....

 

 

[fredwiggy]

22 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

So you met your "normal women" but none of them wanted you!

More likely they would have turned out like your other wives, if they had stuck around long enough.

Do you know my past? No, so you can't comment on any of it. They obviously wanted me as they were with me for some time. I could have stayed with almost all of them, but our future plans didn't coincide so we went our own ways. I wasn't as good at spotting a covert narcissist then as i am now, especially after my ex here. I gave some the benefit of the doubt even though red flags were there. Better to leave sooner than later. Especially if no children are involved.  If you had more than 5 or 6 girlfriends in your life, you would understand this. I treat all women very well, with love , respect and honor. Why would a woman that's attracted to this leave? Because future plans again, don't coincide. I got to know my wives better because we had children and I always try and make things work, but it takes two and both have to be on the same page. if there's abuse, neglect, cheating or mental illness, you don't stay, even if there are children. You just leave and make sure those children go with the stable parent, at least as fast as possible.

[Lacessit]

Given the American women I have met all seem to have an aura of entitlement, there isn't anything about them I have found attractive.

[fredwiggy]

8 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Reading your paragraph, I don't know where to even begin.

So, I guess I will not begin.

 

Except to say, as I just mentioned, it is impossible to educate someone who is unwilling to be educated.

 

This is the same problem we often experience when leading a horse to water, before crossing a desert, when the horse refuses to drink, not realizing what is up ahead of him.

 

 

And it's also hard to stop people from assuming they know anything about you, because ignorance is rampant  in many.

[fredwiggy]

11 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Given the American women I have met all seem to have an aura of entitlement, there isn't anything about them I have found attractive.

If you lived there long enough, you would understand them better and see they're not all that way. Some, many in fact, are stable, family oriented and not greedy. They're usually with the smart men who won't let them go so a single one is harder to find. I find Thai women to be among the most attractive on earth, but I've seen many and been with some American ones that are killer. They're not all Karens , huge or Kardashians.

[save the frogs]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

I've had almost 100 girlfriends

100!

That makes you officially a gigolo, man.

 

 

[Ralf001]

4 hours ago, Walker88 said:

LOL!

 

A bunch of old, fat, unsuccessful, likely bald guys barking about American women, females who apparently are all cookie-cutter copies of each other. Well, it’s the expats who move to Asia for the women----oooh, sorry, the temples and food.

 

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I came for work... the girls are a bonus.

Hate the temples and food.

 

Americans are ok, I love to visit there, really looking forward to SEMA and the NHRA Nevada Nationals this year.

[GammaGlobulin]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

And it's also hard to stop people from assuming they know anything about you, because ignorance is rampant  in many.

 

Ignorance of the law is no excuse, however.

 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

 

I came for work... the girls are a bonus.

Hate the temples and food.

 

Americans are ok, I love to visit there, really looking forward to SEMA and the NHRA Nevada Nationals this year.

 

Too expensive.

In 1990, I often stayed at The Courtyard for USD100 per night.

Now, the cost is USD396 per night.

Not worth it for me.

 

I would rather spend my money in Thailand, where I am doing some good, and helping the Thailand Woman.

 

I would never spend my money in the land of the American Woman....not now...after all these years.

 

I am happy with the wonderful women in Thailand, and I mean just happy to respect them from afar, or chat with them in everyday life.

 

I could NEVER do that with the American Woman, simply because they would DEBATE me from the first moment, and they would be far too overbearing from the beginning...

 

What would we even find in common?

 

Would I talk to them about my love of Chili Peppers, for example????

No.

They just would not care.

 

 

[Kevin_Beethoven]

There is a lot of truth on both sides here.

The bar is continuing to be set high by women here in the USA in terms of what they want from a man.

It really does feel like its getting unattainable for many men to find a partner.

 

I've been divorced twice here and so have been in the dating game quite a few times.

One statistic sort of put things in perspective:
Something like the top 5% of men on dating apps get 95% of the action.
How is your "regular guy" supposed to fare in that environment?

 

Not sure how, but I've done OK. Just not able to make it last 🤣

 

I am originally from the UK and find the women there much more approachable.

Chinese women - very approachable

Japanese women - takes too long to get to know

Taiwanese women - way too shy

Thai women  - will find out in a few months 😅

 

Good luck fellas!