10 hours ago, hotsun said:

UK is headed in the other direction with this. The US was close to falling victim to insanity

I believe the UK and EU will run with their own woke insanity until the Trump Administration says, "Enough!", perhaps spurred by the desire of their citizens of each EU and UK country to jettison woke ideology and Neo-Marxist ideals, which the citizenry can't accomplish alone without the help of a now conservative-leaning United States.

9 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

The Village People threads have also shown how homophobic the left can be even when it's is internalized.

Ironic, isn't it?  The Left is all for trans until it is politically expatiate to not be. Heck, most so-call conservatives have more tolerance for LBGT individuals as a whole as long as the culture isn't being forced down our throats by the State.

18 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

but does not address women who identify as men wanting to play in men's sports. That is why I label it as "discriminatory."

my point it I'm not sure there are too many people like that.

anyone born a woman will not have a competitive advantage over someone who is born a man. 

 

what you call "discrimination" is basically they are trying to make the playing field level. Someone born a man is physically stronger than someone born a woman and will have an unfair advantage in sports. 

7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

my point it I'm not sure there are too many people like that.

anyone born a woman will not have a competitive advantage over someone who is born a man. 

 

what you call "discrimination" is basically they are trying to make the playing field level. Someone born a man is physically stronger than someone born a woman and will have an unfair advantage in sports. 

Then maybe we should just have two sports categories: Open and Women's. What do you think about that? But we'd still have to have specifications, rules, and maybe even tests to determine who is considered a "woman" and who isn't. 

12 hours ago, Tug said:

Ahh it never did it was a tiny tiny number of deviants it’s really not a big deal,other than it gets a lot of folks all worked up.as far as trumps order…meh…so what.

Well Pres. Biden thought it was a big enough deal '...we got your back.'

HIGH TIME!

The [un]madness continues!  

1 hour ago, Purdey said:

The Olympics and other international bodies should ban men from female sports. The problem isn't only American.

If Seb Coe becomes Chairman of the International Olympic Committee after the election in March he has vowed to get trans athletes banned from the Olympics!

 

Sebastian Coe: IOC president candidate says protecting female sport is 'non-negotiable' | Olympics News | Sky Sports

13 hours ago, Tug said:

Ahh it never did it was a tiny tiny number of deviants it’s really not a big deal,other than it gets a lot of folks all worked up.as far as trumps order…meh…so what.

 

Finally your true nature shows. Most of us knew your goodie gooder comments were all just an act

 

Deviants ? Wow. How progressive and accepting of you. 

 

What a vile thing to say. Disgusting but also very revealing. 

 

You may want to rethink your stance as even your fellow left extremists are in agreement with this. Tell the hundreds of women who lost a podium spot that it's a big meh.

 

 

The EO signing  event was much appreciated by all who attended.Many activist, woman athletes and politicians fought hard for this! I remember Riley Gaines being   attacked  by Transgender groups at one of her speaking events.

 

Trump mentioned ,Its hard to believe the dems defending this!

Men athletes competing as woman broke records in bike racing and weightlifting !

 

17 hours ago, Tug said:

Ahh it never did it was a tiny tiny number of deviants it’s really not a big deal,other than it gets a lot of folks all worked up.as far as trumps order…meh…so what.

It's not a big deal to leftists, it's a big deal to the girls that Biden compelled to shower with men. 

 

Biden showered with his daughter, so that makes it okay. 

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

It's not a big deal to leftists, it's a big deal to the girls that Biden compelled to shower with men. 

 

Biden showered with his daughter, so that makes it okay. 

What has that post got to do with the subject matter?

 

good

Trump is often controversial.

But this particular decision is Absolutely Correct.

Allowing Self-Claimed Fake Women into female sports, only benefits the Tricksters.

Just like Gender Free Toilet mostly  benefits Perverts.

3 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

Trump is often controversial.

But this particular decision is Absolutely Correct.

Allowing Self-Claimed Fake Women into female sports, only benefits the Tricksters.

Just like Gender Free Toilet mostly  benefits Perverts.

The president has no say in the matter.

Excellent news, womens sports only for women

 

NCAA changes transgender participation policy in response to executive order

The National Collegiate Athletic Association's board of governors voted to update the association's participation policy for student-athletes following President Donald Trump's executive order banning transgender athletes from participating in women's sports.

The new policy only allows student-athletes assigned female at birth to participate in women's sporting competitions. However, student-athletes assigned male at birth will still be allowed to practice with women’s teams and receive benefits, like medical care, while practicing.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/ncaa-transgender-participation-policy-response-executive-order/

4 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

What has that post got to do with the subject matter?

 

I was responding to a leftist that said: "Ahh it never did it was a tiny tiny number of deviants it’s really not a big deal,other than it gets a lot of folks all worked up.as far as trumps order…meh…so what."

 

I responded: "It's not a big deal to leftists, it's a big deal to the girls that Biden compelled girls to shower with men.", meaning the changes Biden made to Title IX. 

I also pointed out that: "Biden showered with his daughter, so that makes it okay." Meaning okay to the left. 

 

What is confusing about that?

 

Do you think men should be allowed in girls' sports/showers? 

21 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What is confusing about that?

I asked what had Biden's showering with his daughter many years ago got to do with the transgenders OP.

5 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I asked what had Biden's showering with his daughter many years ago got to do with the transgenders OP.

I thought the fact that Biden was showering with his daughter was relevant, given his changes to Title IX compelled schools to allow men in girls' showers and sports, of lose federal funding. 

Do you think men should be allowed in girls' sports/showers or not? 

 

I'm not necessarily in favor of this, but again, I have to ask: why is this proposal only for banning transgender athletes out of women's sports? What about transgender athletes in men's sports? Why is Trump being so discriminatory (as if that surprises anyone). 

16 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I'm not necessarily in favor of this, but again, I have to ask: why is this proposal only for banning transgender athletes out of women's sports? What about transgender athletes in men's sports? Why is Trump being so discriminatory (as if that surprises anyone). 

Because none of it is about transgenders or sports. It is all a distraction while they steal the money.

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

I'm not necessarily in favor of this, but again, I have to ask: why is this proposal only for banning transgender athletes out of women's sports? What about transgender athletes in men's sports? Why is Trump being so discriminatory (as if that surprises anyone). 

Because there are not women pretending to be men are not trying to compete in men's sports.

 

And because it was Biden's amending of Title IX that compelled schools that accept federal funding to allow men into girls'/women's showers and sports. 

 

Do you think men should be allowed in girls'/women's showers and sports or not? 

 

Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports – The White House

 

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you think men should be allowed in girls'/women's showers and sports or not? 

I think if there are showers and sports leagues designated as only men's and women's, the men's should only be open to men and the women's only to women. The problem lies in how to determine if a person is a man or a woman. That determination should be set and made into law. Then, it will be the law and I will respect it, even if I disagree with it. 

11 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I think if there are showers and sports leagues designated as only men's and women's, the men's should only be open to men and the women's only to women. The problem lies in how to determine if a person is a man or a woman. That determination should be set and made into law. Then, it will be the law and I will respect it, even if I disagree with it. 

So, you do not know how to tell a man from a woman? 

 

Is so, how would you differentiate them? 

 

In any event, the sexes were defined in an earlier executive order. Trump can't make law, but there is a bill in Congress that will as make it clear as well. 

 

Link:

Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism And Restoring Biological Truth To The Federal Government – The White House

 

 

 

 

30 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So, you do not know how to tell a man from a woman? 

 

Is so, how would you differentiate them? 

 

In any event, the sexes were defined in an earlier executive order. Trump can't make law, but there is a bill in Congress that will as make it clear as well. 

 

Link:

Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism And Restoring Biological Truth To The Federal Government – The White House

 

 

 

 

Thanks for this, but just how do you determine d or e above unless you are observing this at conception? The rule and determination has to be made many years later, after the person has been born, and maybe not until they are mature. 

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Thanks for this, but just how do you determine d or e above unless you are observing this at conception?

Because the baby, unless it is deformed, has genitals. 

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

 

The rule and determination has to be made many years later, after the person has been born, and maybe not until they are mature. 

Why do you pretend to have an open mind and act like you want to have a discussion when all you care about is promoting your Marxist ideology? 

 

Why someone asks you if you think men pretending to be women should be allowed in girls' and women's showers and sports, just say yes. 

23 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Because the baby, unless it is deformed, has genitals. 

Why do you pretend to have an open mind and act like you want to have a discussion when all you care about is promoting your Marxist ideology? 

 

Why someone asks you if you think men pretending to be women should be allowed in girls' and women's showers and sports, just say yes. 

I don't know what Marx has to do with this, but...

I don't think "men pretending to be women should be allowed in girls' and women's showers and sports," I do think that a person who believes they are a girl or woman should not be prevented from going in women's showers or sports without have a rule that explicitly states how you determine if a person is a man or woman. And, I think all of that should be applicable vice-versa, that is women "pretending" or believing that are men. 

27 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Because the baby, unless it is deformed, has genitals.

And how then do you classify a person who is deformed or has mixed-up chromosomes? 

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

I don't know what Marx has to do with this, but...

I doubt that. 

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

I don't think "men pretending to be women should be allowed in girls' and women's showers and sports," I do think that a person who believes they are a girl or woman should not be prevented from going in women's showers or sports without have a rule that explicitly states how you determine if a person is a man or woman. And, I think all of that should be applicable vice-versa, that is women "pretending" or believing that are men. 

So, as long as a man "believes" he is a woman, he should be allowed in girls' and women's showers, yes?

 

But just how do you determine if they believe it? 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

And how then do you classify a person who is deformed or has mixed-up chromosomes? 

I think if their genitals are deformed at birth such that their sex is not distinguishable, as long as it remains undistinguishable, I think they should be able to Identify as they like. 

 

By mixed-up chromosomes, do you mean their chromosomes do not match their genitals?