Russia prepared for tough negotiations with Trump

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Russia is prepared to drive a tough negotiation with U.S. President Donald Trump over Ukraine, according to Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, who made the statement on Wednesday. The senior Russian diplomat discussed the possibility of Trump facilitating peace talks between Russia and Ukraine, as outlined in remarks published on the Russian Foreign Ministry’s website.  

 

Trump has repeatedly vowed to bring an end to the war in Ukraine, now approaching its third year. Trump has indicated that both Russia and Ukraine would need to make compromises to achieve peace. However, Kyiv has firmly rejected the idea of surrendering any of its territory to Moscow, while Putin has continued to insist that Ukraine must abandon its ambitions of joining NATO.  

 

Ryabkov stated that Russia remains "open to dialogue and ready to negotiate [with the U.S.] through a hard bargain while taking into account the 'realities on the ground' and our national interests." He emphasized that Washington must take the first step in improving U.S.-Russia relations, which have significantly deteriorated since Moscow launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. "It is up to [Donald] Trump and his team to make a decision," Ryabkov added.  

 

While the Kremlin has confirmed that it has reached out to Trump’s team for talks, it has not clarified whether Putin and Trump have directly communicated about the war in Ukraine.  

 

Sean Monaghan, a visiting fellow at the Center for Strategic & International Studies (CSIS), a Washington-based think tank, noted that Trump’s unpredictable nature and deal-making style could potentially help Ukraine negotiate a ceasefire on more favorable terms. "His temperament and character, combined with shifting political, military, and economic conditions around the war, could make an ultimatum strategy viable again," Monaghan wrote.  

 

Bloomberg reported on Wednesday, citing sources familiar with the matter, that U.S. allies anticipate the Trump administration will unveil a proposal to end the war at the upcoming Munich Security Conference in Germany.  

 

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Wednesday, "There are indeed contacts between individual departments, and they have intensified recently, but I cannot tell you any other details."  

 

Trump is expected to meet with Putin soon. Speaking to reporters on Sunday, he confirmed that talks are planned "with various parties, including Ukraine and Russia." "We'll be speaking, and I think we'll perhaps do something that'll be significant. We want to end that war," he stated last week.

 

Based on a report by Newsweek 2025-02-08

 

 

[thaipo7]

Yeah, a little difference than talking to Sleepy Joe.

[Yagoda]

Vlad isnt negotiating from a position of stregnth thats for sure.

[nomad22]

With all the kompromat Russia has on donald, it will certainly be an easy negotiation for Vlad.  I'm sure donald will bow down to Vlad and give him whatever he asks for just as he did in his first term.  

[TheFishman1]

I think first Trump will negotiate a building deal where gives  his hero the dictator of Russia a penthouse then ask her maybe can you build a golf course there Ukraine will not have a chance everybody knows Trump loves the Russian gals

[Purdey]

He will tell Putin that he can make the Ukraine into a riviera with Trump hotels, casinos and luxury. 

[OneMoreFarang]

He is so busy with Canada, Mexico, Panama, Greenland, Israel and all that business in the USA, when should he squeeze in Ukraine? 

 

Maybe like: Sure Putin, take it. I don't care.

[dinsdale]

33 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Vlad isnt negotiating from a position of stregnth thats for sure.

You are joking aren't you? I hope so. Putin is well and truly in the position of strength. Russia is winning this protracted war of attrition. Ukrainian ground is captured daily as the Russian forces push west. What makes you think it's Zelenskyy that has the upper hand in any negotiation. If you think Ukraine is winning you really need to question where you're getting your information from.

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

You are joking aren't you? I hope so. Putin is well and truly in the position of strength. Russia is winning this protracted war of attrition. Ukrainian ground is captured daily as the Russian forces push west. What makes you think it's Zelenskyy that has the upper hand in any negotiation. If you think Ukraine is winning you really need to question where you're getting your information from.

Stop being a Russian shill. Both countries are economicaly exhausted except Putin  has no one to bail him out. If you think Von Mudras tactics in the Argonne in WW1 will lead to a "breakthrough", you know nothing of military history, both sides are gonna keep killing each other until one collapses, and its more likely that Putin says uncle and keeps his gains so far. His regime is close to economic collapse., he is running out of equipment and men and his "allies" like Iran have their own problems.

 

That corrupt clown Zelensky has no "upper hand". He will do what he is told or we will cut his fake little country off and leave it to their Russian masters like it has been throughout history. But the key here is to slap Putin as much as possible. He needs out more.

[Yagoda]

39 minutes ago, nomad22 said:

With all the kompromat Russia has on donald, it will certainly be an easy negotiation for Vlad.  I'm sure donald will bow down to Vlad and give him whatever he asks for just as he did in his first term.  

Please set forth the Kompromat that Russia has on President Trump.

 

You cant. You are a blatant out and out fantasist.

[JulesMad]

2 war criminals and mass-murderers have a meeting... What could go wrong? 🤮

[Dcheech]

1 hour ago, thaipo7 said:

Yeah, a little difference than talking to Sleepy Joe.

For sure, Putin has Donald in his back pocket, unlike sleepy joe who busted his chops. Take your pick as to the real reason Donald will turn turtle and do some boot licking. 

A) Russian oligarchs tied to Prince Vlad, Investing in his golf courses, resorts, starting decades back.
B) The promise of hotels, golf courses & resorts in Russia. Donald cannot resist the money. Selling T shoes & bibles ... here's some real juice, not chump change from credulous mooks. That After a successful conclusion of a war Vlad initiated, but pooch screwed, thanks a good deal to sleepy Joe. 
C) Providing the hacked info to Wiki leaks & Julian Aussie Assange, from Hillary, critical to putting Donald over the top in 2016.
D) Donald was indeed honey trapped all along. A person with as little self control as Donald Trump, would have been easy target for ex KGB/Stassi agent Vladimir Putin.

However given how bad the Russian military was mauled,  and remains a basket case, I believe Prince Vlad will want more than a good settlement, with Ukraine at his mercy. He will want a stake in the heart of NATO also. Getting in a altercation with a NATO member, like Denmark might be the lever needed to dismember NATO. Likely that was what Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump were talking about in those 7 phone conversations they had in the last year.

Republicans have used 'commie this and commie that' for a hundred years now. Many say their support of and aid to Joe McCarthy in the 50's was not about communism but about dismembering as much of Roosevelts New Deal as they could. It was always a scam. Still, It will be amazing watching their president get bent over and pounded,  willingly, by commie Vlad. To the collective cheers of all those Republican hypocrites. Some will call it treason ... high treason.

 

[Seppius]

They can discuss what they like, but ultimately it's Zelenskyy to agree, he is not going to give up that easy, and Europe will continue to support him, even if Trump stops (which i don't think he will)

 

Give him another year of this and Russia won't have an oil refinery left

 

Putin can no longer keep his skies safe, Ukraine is hitting hundreds of miles into Russia, and getting better at it everyday

[Seppius]

1 hour ago, nomad22 said:

With all the kompromat Russia has on donald, it will certainly be an easy negotiation for Vlad.  I'm sure donald will bow down to Vlad and give him whatever he asks for just as he did in his first term.  

Got some evidence or proof of that?

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Stop being a Russian shill. Both countries are economicaly exhausted except Putin  has no one to bail him out. If you think Von Mudras tactics in the Argonne in WW1 will lead to a "breakthrough", you know nothing of military history, both sides are gonna keep killing each other until one collapses, and its more likely that Putin says uncle and keeps his gains so far. His regime is close to economic collapse., he is running out of equipment and men and his "allies" like Iran have their own problems.

 

That corrupt clown Zelensky has no "upper hand". He will do what he is told or we will cut his fake little country off and leave it to their Russian masters like it has been throughout history. But the key here is to slap Putin as much as possible. He needs out more.

I'm not being a Russian shill. Anyone who can see what's happening is called "a Russian shill". Well you need to look at a bit of reality. Ukraine will run out of soldiers before the Russian economy collapses. How you can possibly think Russia will run out of soldiers first is an outstanding piece of denying reality. Problem with Ukraine is the stop the conscrition age at 25 or 26 can't remember which. Russia is paying people to join and paying big money. Russian conscripts are well trained, Ukrainian conscripts aren't.  As for running out of equipment that too is well off the mark. Russia is employing FAB bombs with great success and has a huge stockpile of soviet era bombs that can easily and cheaply be converted. Artillery shells hundreds of thousands. Cheap drones and now optic cable drones. My guess is you haven't looked at one single war map so you have no idea how much territory is being lost. I suggest you do so you can get an appreciation of what's happening on the Eastern front of Ukraine. Zelenskyy most definitely does not have the upper hand in any negotiations. As it stands Russia is in a position of dominance both on the field of war and at any negotiation table. Like it or not this is the current situation.

[jas007]

The way I see it, Trump doesn't want to spend too much time fooling around with Ukraine.  He's got other fish to fry, and continuing a the delusion of a New World Order, American exceptionalism in every corner of planet Earth and never-ending wars for the sake of money laundering isn't one of them.  If anything, Trump is pragmatic. He's well aware of the fact that Russia has a legitimate security interest in not having NATO on its border.  All one needs to do is look at Trump's current plans for the Panama Canal.  Panama, within the American sphere of influence and nothing that should concern Russia.  That's the reality in the Western Hemisphere for America.  Likewise, Trump certainly recognizes the reality of Eastern Europe. 

 

Much to the chagrin of the Neocons and the corrupt Deep Spate warmongers, Putin will get a guarantee of no NATO in Ukraine and, in exchange. for a cessation of hostilities, Russia will keep whatever territory it currently occupies.  And, Ukraine will pull its troops out of the small section of Russia it currently occupies.  

 

I could be wrong, but if things turn out any differently, I would be surprised. 

[OneMoreFarang]

I don't think even Trump knows now what he will be up to in a week or two. Depending how other things go, or how much attention he wants, he will do something. And almost all options are open, and little will have to do with Ukraine and Ukrainians. 

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Ukraine will run out of soldiers before the Russian economy collapses.

At the rate they kill each other, Russia will impose conscription soon, that will help his popularity

 

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

How you can possibly think Russia will run out of soldiers first is an outstanding piece of denying reality.

They already are. Why are there NKs there?

 

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Russian conscripts are well trained, Ukrainian conscripts aren't.

Russian conscripts well trained? Ya mean like Kitcheners army was well trained on the first day of the Somme.?

Both sides are using tactics suited to the old Western Front. Did you know Russia still uses blocking formations and Penal battalions?

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

My guess is you haven't looked at one single war map so you have no idea how much territory is being lost.

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de641cf64bd375

10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Zelenskyy most definitely does not have the upper hand in any negotiations.

Who is saying he does?

 

Your hysterical reaction shows that you are a Russian apologist. I try to despise both sides equally.

[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Much to the chagrin of the Neocons and the corrupt Deep Spate warmongers, Putin will get a guarantee of no NATO in Ukraine and, in exchange, Russia will keep whatever territory it currently occupies.  And, Ukraine will pull its troops out of the small section of Russia it currently occupies.  

Pretty much the case I reckon. As for Kirsk, as it is the Russians have regained a fair bit of what Ukraine initially took and the troops there may be in danger of being cut off. The Kirsk move was a strategic mistake. The highly trained troops sent in there along with the weaponry was and is needed on the Eastern front which continues to creep westward.

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de641cf64bd375

You are kidding. Here's a couple of regularly update maps. Deepstatemap and Suriyakmaps latest.

https://deepstatemap.live/en#7/48.4802044/36.6613770

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1V8NzjQkzMOhpuLhkktbiKgodOQ27X6IV&ll=49.872928489795804%2C37.70398701452603&z=13 ]

 

 

 

[scottiejohn]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Vlad isnt negotiating from a position of stregnth thats for sure.

Neither can Trump!

[dinsdale]

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Both sides are using tactics suited to the old Western Front.

Being that the battle field is very much like the trench warfare of WW1 it's no surprise. Artillery was used then and is still being used and Russia has A LOT of shells stockpiled. Add to this FABs, thermobaric weapons and drones. This is what Ukraine needed instead of F16s and Abrams of which there are few. Artillery being the most important.

[spidermike007]

There really are no tough negotiations with Trump as he's a terrible negotiator, and any one of his adversaries knows that all they have to do is compliment him and he completely caves in. His ego is so delicate and so fragile that's all any negotiator has to know. 

[connda]

Yep, the Ruble's Rubble, the Russian economy is in tatters, Russian shops have empty shelves, and you can't find an egg anywhere in Moscow, and Russia is launching missiles made out of North Korean washing machines which only manage to land on their own troops.  Nothing to worry about, Putin will see the writing on the wall and immediately cave. 

[connda]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Russia will impose conscription soon

Unlike Ukraine where most of the 18 to 60 year old Ukrainian men have bravely stepped forward to fight and die on the Eastern Front for Freedom, Liberty, and Democracy! 

[dinsdale]

59 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Your hysterical reaction shows that you are a Russian apologist. I try to despise both sides equally.

Let me once again say this and make it perfectly clear to you. Saying Russia is winning the protracted war of attrition in no way equates to being a Russian apologist, a Russian shrill, a Putin stooge or anything else your tiny brain can come up with. Facts are facts. Russia has the upper hand. Russia as of now is winning the war. They advance more westerly every day and are taking strategic towns. Ukrainian troops will be depleted well before the Russian economy. Troop replacement as it stands is not a problem for Russia. Weaponry and ammunition is not a problem for Russia. Territory taken will be kept by Russia although there may be a small concession made for Kursk. Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO. Putin will not march into other European countries because no way Russia can match the might of NATO as a whole. This is using reason not being an apologist. Sadly it seems you don't have the required mental capacity to realize this.

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, connda said:

Unlike Ukraine where most of the 18 to 60 year old Ukrainian men have bravely stepped forward to fight and die on the Eastern Front for Freedom, Liberty, and Democracy! 

I think you'll find that the numbers of volunteers has reduced dramatically and conscription age is 25. This is why there is a problem with the numbers available to go to war. Desertion and AWOL is also a factor.

[Yagoda]

34 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Let me once again say this and make it perfectly clear to you. Saying Russia is winning the protracted war of attrition in no way equates to being a Russian apologist, a Russian shrill, a Putin stooge or anything else your tiny brain can come up with. Facts are facts. Russia has the upper hand. Russia as of now is winning the war. They advance more westerly every day and are taking strategic towns. Ukrainian troops will be depleted well before the Russian economy. Troop replacement as it stands is not a problem for Russia. Weaponry and ammunition is not a problem for Russia. Territory taken will be kept by Russia although there may be a small concession made for Kursk. Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO. Putin will not march into other European countries because no way Russia can match the might of NATO as a whole. This is using reason not being an apologist. Sadly it seems you don't have the required mental capacity to realize this.

Flaming again? 

 

Taking 2 feet of territory a day at the cost of thousands of lives doesn't seem to be winning, but you just dream on.

 

I would say the same thing too that clown zelinsky but he's got the money, for now

[Yagoda]

39 minutes ago, connda said:

Unlike Ukraine where most of the 18 to 60 year old Ukrainian men have bravely stepped forward to fight and die on the Eastern Front for Freedom, Liberty, and Democracy! 

I hope you had your sarcasm suit on. 

 

 

[Hummin]

12 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

Russia is prepared to drive a tough negotiation with U.S. President Donald Trump over Ukraine, according to Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, who made the statement on Wednesday. The senior Russian diplomat discussed the possibility of Trump facilitating peace talks between Russia and Ukraine, as outlined in remarks published on the Russian Foreign Ministry’s website.  

 

Trump has repeatedly vowed to bring an end to the war in Ukraine, now approaching its third year. Trump has indicated that both Russia and Ukraine would need to make compromises to achieve peace. However, Kyiv has firmly rejected the idea of surrendering any of its territory to Moscow, while Putin has continued to insist that Ukraine must abandon its ambitions of joining NATO.  

 

Ryabkov stated that Russia remains "open to dialogue and ready to negotiate [with the U.S.] through a hard bargain while taking into account the 'realities on the ground' and our national interests." He emphasized that Washington must take the first step in improving U.S.-Russia relations, which have significantly deteriorated since Moscow launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. "It is up to [Donald] Trump and his team to make a decision," Ryabkov added.  

 

While the Kremlin has confirmed that it has reached out to Trump’s team for talks, it has not clarified whether Putin and Trump have directly communicated about the war in Ukraine.  

 

Sean Monaghan, a visiting fellow at the Center for Strategic & International Studies (CSIS), a Washington-based think tank, noted that Trump’s unpredictable nature and deal-making style could potentially help Ukraine negotiate a ceasefire on more favorable terms. "His temperament and character, combined with shifting political, military, and economic conditions around the war, could make an ultimatum strategy viable again," Monaghan wrote.  

 

Bloomberg reported on Wednesday, citing sources familiar with the matter, that U.S. allies anticipate the Trump administration will unveil a proposal to end the war at the upcoming Munich Security Conference in Germany.  

 

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Wednesday, "There are indeed contacts between individual departments, and they have intensified recently, but I cannot tell you any other details."  

 

Trump is expected to meet with Putin soon. Speaking to reporters on Sunday, he confirmed that talks are planned "with various parties, including Ukraine and Russia." "We'll be speaking, and I think we'll perhaps do something that'll be significant. We want to end that war," he stated last week.

 

Based on a report by Newsweek 2025-02-08

 

 

As long they both want the same resources, and for the moment the territory with the resources is in hands of the rsussians, who have the best card on their hands?

 

The problem is, Europe is also partner in the previous deals, but right now it is all about Usa and Russia, as it seems

 

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