European Leaders to Convene in Urgent Summit on Ukraine Amid US-Russia Peace Talks

[Eric Loh]

24 minutes ago, howerde said:

Utter rubbish, why would Russia want any of the bankrupt European countries if he did he would have invaded  years ago, and if NATO thought Europe was under threat it would have gone to war in 2022, Europe has not built its forces up in 3 years as it knows there is no threat ,   this war is about natural resources that the west wants, and getting Ukraine into NATO, the lives lost do not matter to the defense industry they have made billions out of Ukraine. billions out of Afghanistan, 2 gulf wars Libya, remember global Jihad that was going to destroy  the western world, well lucky a few billion was spent on that, and in the last 40 years, has the average person in the west life style improved

And remember the people of western Ukraine are ethnically Russian and speak Russian, it was Zelenskyy who was banning speaking Russian and banning the Russian orthodox church etc etc, anyone with a basic knowledge of world affairs knows that the Russians have been goaded for years over Ukraine, anyway China is the new threat,  billions must be spent or we will all be speaking Chinese. don't forget India, print Billions more or else  

Putin has invaded Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine since he became President. Would have taken Kosovo when he was secretary of Russia Security Council. If you don;t see his imperialistic ambition, you have drank too  much of Russian kool-aid.  

[Hakuna Matata]

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Putin has invaded Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine since he became President. Would have taken Kosovo when he was secretary of Russia Security Council. If you don;t see his imperialistic ambition, you have drank too  much of Russian kool-aid. 

 

Propaganda!

[TedG]

5 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

 

Propaganda!

https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

[TedG]

5 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

 

Propaganda!

https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

[TedG]

5 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

 

Propaganda!

https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

[TedG]

5 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

 

Propaganda!

https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

[TedG]

7 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Putin has invaded Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine since he became President. Would have taken Kosovo when he was secretary of Russia Security Council. If you don;t see his imperialistic ambition, you have drank too  much of Russian kool-aid.  

Exactly.  Putin won’t stop until he gets stopped. 

[Eric Loh]

3 minutes ago, TedG said:

Exactly.  Putin won’t stop until he gets stopped. 

Trump has weakened Nato and cosy up to Putin. Europe is in a very difficult situation. Zalensky warned of Putin's ambition to "100% occupy Europe"if US withdraws Nato support. Putin is counting on his buddy Trump to pull their forces out of Europe. US defense chief moron Hegseth warned that American troops in Europe are not 'forever '. The last stand will be the Congress who can stop him. I am not putting my bets on those Maga lawmakers. Dire time for Europe. Trump is a traitor. 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

I thought you said the war about NATO expansion.   Why can't the Russian troll farm keep their narrative straight? 

It was both, the attacks killing of the ethnic Russains and the sabre rattling of the US aying that Ukraine could join nato. Putin has said since taking office this was a red line, US & nato ignored him

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Russia invaded the Ukraine and took the Crimea, now they have invaded the Ukraine once again.

 

If you don't understand that you should do at lot more research and go back to school to relearn modern history.

* western version of history, Russias version is different

[candide]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

All those profits made to simply postpone the inevitable.    Who cares how many died and or got displaced.  

Who doesn't care: Putin!

[candide]

4 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Don't forget: 

It was Nato who moved closer to Russian borders. Not vice versa. If the West would respect the security sphere of Russia we wouldn't have the war now. And....the West didn't want/refused negotiations.

Don't forget. Countries freely joined NATO because they wanted to make sure to escape Russia's domination after experiencing it! 

[paddypower]

On 2/17/2025 at 11:02 AM, Hakuna Matata said:

 

Propaganda!

Nice try, but it's Bullxxxx - versus facts: this is why I  categorize you as (a)  a Russia appologist or (b) a Russian troll).    the first thing to remember is the history of the relationship between Russia and Ukraine. all the way back to Stalin and later, Russia/USSR requisitioned agricultural products from Ukraine's rural population, leading to economic collapse.

Russia implemented oppressive Russification policies, after it occupied Ukraine during World War II, in a treaty with Hitler. That is why there are large Russian speaking areas in Ukraine

When the USSR was created, to include many of the Baltic states, it established control of Ukraine.

Once the Soviet Union broke up in 1991,  Ukraine regain its independence - as an internationally recognized country. the Russian speaking territories tried to form break-away republics (a black op instigated by Russia) . yes,they were savagely attacked by the military forces of the country they are part of. which part do you refuse to recognize as fact? 

[paddypower]

On 2/17/2025 at 11:44 AM, frank83628 said:

* western version of history, Russias version is different

which is why i call you a Russia apologist 🙂 why would anybody in their right mind believe Putin's 'version' of history  ? he showed his 'style' by placing his army at the borders, saying 'I will not invade' and then he did so.

[paddypower]

On 2/17/2025 at 11:43 AM, frank83628 said:

It was both, the attacks killing of the ethnic Russains and the sabre rattling of the US aying that Ukraine could join nato. Putin has said since taking office this was a red line, US & nato ignored him

now there you go again. Ethnic Russians tried to form their own independent republics (financed by Putin). quite rightly, the country they belong to put they down. rightly so.

[Hakuna Matata]

 

[newbee2022]

On 2/17/2025 at 10:03 AM, Hummin said:

Time to saddle up, Europe will be at war before end of year! I might reconsider my future plans sooner than later

 

PM 'ready' to put troops on ground in Ukraine to protect peace

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gxgxl3grgo

Learn Russian language. Just in case🤗

[animalmagic]

Yesterday, February 19th, 2025—a date which will live in infamy—the United States of America suddenly and cravenly betrayed a democratic ally in favour of the empire of Russia by reneging on the freely signed Budapest memorandum of 1994.

[Snackbar]

Whole bunch of greasy draft dodgers 

 

Useless

[candide]

2 hours ago, Snackbar said:

Whole bunch of greasy draft dodgers 

 

Useless

Talking about draft dodgers... 😆

[paddypower]

On 2/19/2025 at 8:11 PM, Hakuna Matata said:

 

as usual, black is white according to most Trump supporters . not saying it is a completely objective  assessment it is just a more interesting American perspective: <https://understandingwar.org/.../ukraine-fact-sheet...> this certainly indicates a more knowledgeable assessments/news source than appears in US Media such as CNN, MSNS, etc. and by Russian, Turkish media & your source. It's illogical to think that Ukraine has no rights to sit at the table of a peace conference, with those who invaded its internationally recognized borders.