MikeandDow Posted February 20 Posted February 20 7 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: Yes 1900 baht and a nominal fee to the agent. So where does the other 10,000 or so baht go? its called "gift of service" sin nam jai, you learning yet ??
jerrymahoney Posted February 20 Posted February 20 11 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: its called "gift of service" sin nam jai, you learning yet ?? It's called a bribe and most of the money likely ends up in mule accounts. But I was waiting for you to go into plausible deniability mode 1
MikeandDow Posted February 20 Posted February 20 9 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: It's called a bribe and must of the money likely ends up in mule accounts. That is a Western view point !! the money will end up in the persons bank account There is also a tradition of presenting gifts to high officials. In this context you see that some things used to be legitimate under the traditional patronage system but are clearly to be considered problematic in modern legal system. Thais still accept paying fees to officials as sin nam jai, the 'gifts of good will' and do not see that as a form of corruption. 1
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 9 hours ago, jerrymahoney said: No my words were: And just who uses mule accounts. Someone who deals with large amounts of unreported cash money that they would have a hard time explaining the source of that money. Like someone who receives large amounts of cash from a "reputable agent" You have no idea how a mule account works. "someone who receives large amounts of cash" describes thousands of Thai bar girls, and Thai spouses, more so now with "gifting" as a way to minimize tax. It's more complicated than an in and out 800k baht deposit / withdrawal.
jerrymahoney Posted February 20 Posted February 20 So 1000+% gratuities are just fine. It's been swell. 1
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 19 hours ago, NoDisplayName said: No need to post any more until you was been, m'kay? Keep driving.
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 19 hours ago, scottiejohn said: I did and it does not answer these questions! Yes, it does. Read it again. 1
MikeandDow Posted February 20 Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: So 1000+% gratuities are just fine. It's been swell. you have a lot to learn about Thailand
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 20 hours ago, MikeandDow said: No idea !! think i have to agree with the other posters Troll Khun !! Fail.
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 5 hours ago, ronnie50 said: Thailand is Upper Middle-Income, according to the World Bank. Then again so is Papua New Guinea (Upper Middle-Income) - a country where the poverty, and related violence, is right in your face (how WB comes up with these rankings is anyone's guess - perhaps because PNG has energy and minerals, but the populace are poor as poor can be). Well said.
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 8 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: you have a lot to learn about Thailand Less to learn than you, it seems. 1
jerrymahoney Posted February 20 Posted February 20 8 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: you have a lot to learn about Thailand What I know is that nothing will happen if the Thai RTP Immigration have to arrest themselves. The only way something might happen is if the Revenue Department sees all this as tax fraud 1
MikeandDow Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 minute ago, jerrymahoney said: What I know is that nothing will happen if the Thai RTP Immigration have to arrest themselves. The only way something might happen is if the Revenue Department sees all this as tax fraud oh think the penny has drop !!! 1
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 21 hours ago, hotandsticky said: You are wrong .... on both counts There's Thailand, right at the top of the list. Such a "stable" country. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1350920/coup-d-etats-world-type/ 1
MikeandDow Posted February 20 Posted February 20 3 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said: Less to learn than you, it seems. No idea about Thai culture, or you would not call your self Khun
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 21 hours ago, hotandsticky said: Thailand is not a third world country Yes, it is. 1 1
MikeandDow Posted February 20 Posted February 20 3 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said: Yes, it is. Wrong again !! Thailand is not a third world country it is classified as an upper-middle income economy by the World Bank, meaning it has made significant economic progress and is considered a developing country that is moving towards developed status. 1
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 21 hours ago, MikeandDow said: I think you should come up with a plan b Khun!! there is nothing wrong being Financially and emotionally invested in a 3rd World Country I think you will find it's the opposite. Those who have financially and emotionally "invested" in Thailand need a Plan B. I can sell my motorbike, entertainment system, and donate some other appliances, drain my bank account, and head straight to the airport withing24 hours, should I need to, or have to, and all I would lose is some rent, and possibly the bond. The flight could be to Vietnam, Malaysia, Cambodia, for example, and I simply start again. Those with financial and emotional ties in Thailand really need to have a solid Plan B. A well thought out plan. I doubt many do. They think nothing will ever change in Thailand from the day they started "living the dream." 1 1
MikeandDow Posted February 20 Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said: I think you will find it's the opposite. Those who have financially and emotionally "invested" in Thailand need a Plan B. I can sell my motorbike, entertainment system, and donate some other appliances, drain my bank account, and head straight to the airport withing24 hours, should I need to, or have to, and all I would lose is some rent, and possibly the bond. The flight could be to Vietnam, Malaysia, Cambodia, for example, and I simply start again. Those with financial and emotional ties in Thailand really need to have a solid Plan B. A well thought out plan. I doubt many do. They think nothing will ever change in Thailand from the day they started "living the dream." Go nobody is stopping you !!! can troll some where else 2
hotandsticky Posted February 20 Posted February 20 15 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said: Yes, it is. Only a moron would perpetuate that lie. 1 1
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 22 hours ago, MikeandDow said: Well its correct you have Not done your research it is up to the immigration officer to grant the visa or not (with or with out money) you can not get away with That Fact So, you are relying on what side of the bed an Immigration Officer wakes upon. That's a solid plan.
MikeandDow Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said: So, you are relying on what side of the bed an Immigration Officer wakes upon. That's a solid plan. Not relying on anything ! go troll elsewhere 1
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 2 hours ago, MikeandDow said: Not relying on anything ! go troll elsewhere What's your point???? Is it that an Immigration Officer can issue an extension to anyone they want? If so, it usually involves handing over money to ignore the requirements. What's new about that here???? 1
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 2 hours ago, hotandsticky said: Only a moron would perpetuate that lie. You've proved your own point.
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 2 hours ago, MikeandDow said: Go nobody is stopping you !!! can troll some where else Why would I go now? Thailand is working well for me. Unlike some, I make Thailand work for me, not me work for Thailand. 2
jaywalker2 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 On 2/19/2025 at 4:18 PM, KhunHeineken said: Does someone using an agent for the 800k launder money? No. Does someone using an agent for the 800k defraud anyone? No? A mule account is used in conjunction with the proceeds of crime. Yes, using an agent for the 800k is a breach of the immigration laws, but those using an agent for the 800k is not what they are targeting with this policy. Immigration guidelines, not laws 1
MikeandDow Posted February 20 Posted February 20 9 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said: Immigration guidelines, not laws Agree they are just guidlines , khun troll the guy does not know what he is talking about 1 1
KhunHeineken Posted February 20 Posted February 20 15 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: Agree they are just guidlines Once again, what is your point with this???????? 1
Captain Flack Posted February 20 Posted February 20 A number of bickering posts that were deflecting the topic have been removed. Please discuss the topic not each other. 1 1
jerrymahoney Posted February 21 Posted February 21 15 hours ago, MikeandDow said: So as i said many posts ago a competent officer' has the 'discretion to grant a visa but you still have to pay the fee So why is there the need for an agent?
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