Trump says Zelensky ‘should have never started’ war with Russia

[sammieuk1]

Soon they will be eating the dogs and drinking bleach🤔

[Chomper Higgot]

Trump using his mouth to carry water for Putin… again.

[theshu25]

2 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Well its plain to see the americans have a nut job for president !!!

Yes, no more then a game show host,has the brain of a n  ant, yet the theiving ,grift ing rapist still got the job. Unbeleivale  really when you think about it.

[Seppius]

[bangadang]

4 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

well you are an easy target for con man like trump,  beliving Ukraine started the war !!

 They certainly were encouraged by the US to fight a proxy war without any Americans getting body bags. I'm shocked any reasonable person would not understand this. 

[MikeandDow]

1 minute ago, bangadang said:

 They certainly were encouraged by the US to fight a proxy war without any Americans getting body bags. I'm shocked any reasonable person would not understand this. 

I'm shocked any reasonable person would not understand that putin invaded,  this is a known fact ! it proves trump is lying or a nut job  i like to believe the latter

[beautifulthailand99]

2 hours ago, theshu25 said:

Yes, no more then a game show host,has the brain of a n  ant, yet the theiving ,grift ing rapist still got the job. Unbeleivale  really when you think about it.

I woke up this morning mildy scared at the impact of what is going on. The world is being re-orderd but not in a good way.

[gargamon]

25 minutes ago, bangadang said:

 They certainly were encouraged by the US to fight a proxy war without any Americans getting body bags. I'm shocked any reasonable person would not understand this. 

How naive. Typical MAGA moron. Biden offered Zelenski transportation out of the country. Zelenski replied he didn't want a ride, he wanted ammunition.

[Cameroni]

Wonderful to see that Trump sees to the heart of the matter, and the real history of the conflict, because indeed it was Ukraine that repeatedly provoked Russia and carries most of the blame for the conflict. Early on Ukraine and Russia could have negotiated a sensible solution but Zelensky, at the behest of that charlatan Boris Johnson, preferred to go to war with a nuclear power. Ukraine went mad dog, and it is good that America is now reigning in the lunatics who blew up the Northstream pipeline. 

 

Trump is telling the truth, this war need never have happened, even if he is blanking out Anmerica's and Britain's responsibility for precipitating it when they egged on Zelensky in private talks not to do the deal with Russia way back when.

[NoDisplayName]

7 hours ago, Walker88 said:

If somebody tries to rape your wife, I suspect you'd just say "bend over and enjoy it, dear".

 

I mean, that's "peaceful" and avoids violence, right?

 

Zelenskyy preferred that Ukraine NOT be raped, and Biden agreed.

 

Exactly!

You get it!

 

Putin's Donbass niece preferred not to be raped, despite the promise of (ethnic) cleansing afterwards.

[NoDisplayName]

3 hours ago, theshu25 said:

Yes, no more then a game show host,has the brain of a n  ant, yet the theiving ,grift ing rapist still got the job. Unbeleivale  really when you think about it.

 

Amazing, in't?

 

And who did they give the job of running the most corrupt country and provoking Russia to?

 

[MikeandDow]

37 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Wonderful to see that Trump sees to the heart of the matter, and the real history of the conflict, because indeed it was Ukraine that repeatedly provoked Russia and carries most of the blame for the conflict. Early on Ukraine and Russia could have negotiated a sensible solution but Zelensky, at the behest of that charlatan Boris Johnson, preferred to go to war with a nuclear power. Ukraine went mad dog, and it is good that America is now reigning in the lunatics who blew up the Northstream pipeline. 

 

Trump is telling the truth, this war need never have happened, even if he is blanking out Anmerica's and Britain's responsibility for precipitating it when they egged on Zelensky in private talks not to do the deal with Russia way back when.

you must have a crystal ball or you are full of BS think the latter !!

While there are many suspects and theories, it's not clear who blew up the Nord Stream gas pipelines. The investigation is ongoing.

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, MikeandDow said:

you must have a crystal ball or you are full of BS think the latter !!

While there are many suspects and theories, it's not clear who blew up the Nord Stream gas pipelines. The investigation is ongoing.

 

Lol, it's well known who blew up Nord Stream:

 

"The Nord Stream gas pipeline was blown up by a small Ukrainian sabotage team in an operation that was initially approved by Volodymyr Zelenskiy and then called off, but which went ahead anyway, according to claims in a report in the Wall Street Journal."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/15/ukrainian-team-blew-up-nord-stream-pipeline-claims-report

 

The only ones full of BS are the apologists for Ukraine.

[MikeandDow]

14 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Amazing, in't?

 

And who did they give the job of running the most corrupt country and provoking Russia to?

 

need to check your facts Ukraine  is 105 in corruption list  Thailand 107 South Sudan 180

[MikeandDow]

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Lol, it's well known who blew up Nord Stream:

 

"The Nord Stream gas pipeline was blown up by a small Ukrainian sabotage team in an operation that was initially approved by Volodymyr Zelenskiy and then called off, but which went ahead anyway, according to claims in a report in the Wall Street Journal."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/15/ukrainian-team-blew-up-nord-stream-pipeline-claims-report

 

The only ones full of BS are the apologists for Ukraine.

As i said there are many suspects and theories NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED  The investigation is ongoing.

The word is "Ongoing "  stand by the statment full of BS  

[NoDisplayName]

20 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

need to check your facts Ukraine  is 105 in corruption list  Thailand 107 South Sudan 180

 

They're so corrupt they pay off the corruption judges.

[MikeandDow]

Just now, NoDisplayName said:

 

They're so corrupt they pay off the corruption judges.

oh !! please !! dont be a knuckle head

[NoDisplayName]

3 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

oh !! please !! dont be a knuckle head

 

Okay, fine..........most corrupt IN EUROPE.

 

Heck, they'll even fire a prosecutor for a measly $Billion in loan guarantees, just need a BigGuy even more corrupt to make them an offer they can't refuse.

 

I said, “Nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars.” They said, “You have no authority. You’re not the president.” The president said—I said, “Call him.” I said, “I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars.” I said, “You’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours.” I looked at them and said, “I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.” Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.

[connda]

On 2/19/2025 at 8:31 AM, KhunLA said:

Not now, as USA no longer has a war mongering administration in place.  

And yet now we have war mongering AN Neo-con fan-boys.  Their collective motto is "Forever War For As Long As It Takes and No Matter What The Cost".  (cha-ching)

Funny that those with whom I used to march in anti-war marches during Vietnam are now banging the drums of war and demanding that their governments send their children and grandchildren into battle-field meat-grinders for no other reason than their collective hatred of ethnicities and cultures who aren't like themselves, who refuse to bend-a-knee to the West, and whom their own Western governments label as "The Enemy." 

Then the Trump administration comes along and plays the diplomacy card and is raked over the coals for doing it.  Honestly.  If Trump dropped bombs on Russian, China, Iran, and the DPRK instead, the same people would still be lambasting Trump and the members of his administration.  This has nothing to do with Geo-politics and everything to do with hatred: Hatred of Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, all BRICS nations including Thailand, Africa, Brazil, Latin-America in general, everybody who isn't a purebred Westerner, whatever that is.  As well as hatred of Trump and most of his cabinet. 

Hate hate hate hate hate, so?  "We need WAR!" 

Nah - we need peace and economic trade.  War is so passé. The world needs a new paradigm.  Not "Peace Through Strength" but Peace Through Mutual Trade.

"WAR!" 
Yeah, whatever.  If you want it so badly, volunteer and head to the front and put your derriere's where your mouths are. Hatred is so passé too.    ☮️ 🕊️

Remember!  Fighting For Peace is like Shagging For Chasity.

[MikeandDow]

5 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Okay, fine..........most corrupt IN EUROPE.

 

Heck, they'll even fire a prosecutor for a measly $Billion in loan guarantees, just need a BigGuy even more corrupt to make them an offer they can't refuse.

 

I said, “Nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars.” They said, “You have no authority. You’re not the president.” The president said—I said, “Call him.” I said, “I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars.” I said, “You’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours.” I looked at them and said, “I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.” Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.

try again  Ukraine  5th from bottom   do you just make up this BS

[ChicagoExpat]

2 hours ago, bangadang said:

 They certainly were encouraged by the US to fight a proxy war without any Americans getting body bags. I'm shocked any reasonable person would not understand this. 

When they wanted to defend themselves, we, among many, many other nations helped.  Quite a difference from your Russian narrative.

[ChicagoExpat]

12 minutes ago, connda said:

And yet now we have war mongering AN Neo-con fan-boys.  Their collective motto is "Forever War For As Long As It Takes and No Matter What The Cost".  (cha-ching)

Funny that those with whom I used to march in anti-war marches during Vietnam are now banging the drums of war and demanding that their governments send their children and grandchildren into battle-field meat-grinders for no other reason than their collective hatred of ethnicities and cultures who aren't like themselves, who refuse to bend-a-knee to the West, and whom their own Western governments label as "The Enemy." 

Then the Trump administration comes along and plays the diplomacy card and is raked over the coals for doing it.  Honestly.  If Trump dropped bombs on Russian, China, Iran, and the DPRK instead, the same people would still be lambasting Trump and the members of his administration.  This has nothing to do with Geo-politics and everything to do with hatred: Hatred of Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, all BRICS nations including Thailand, Africa, Brazil, Latin-America in general, everybody who isn't a purebred Westerner, whatever that is.  As well as hatred of Trump and most of his cabinet. 

Hate hate hate hate hate, so?  "We need WAR!" 

Nah - we need peace and economic trade.  War is so passé. The world needs a new paradigm.  Not "Peace Through Strength" but Peace Through Mutual Trade.

"WAR!" 
Yeah, whatever.  If you want it so badly, volunteer and head to the front and put your derriere's where your mouths are. Hatred is so passé too.    ☮️ 🕊️

Remember!  Fighting For Peace is like Shagging For Chasity.

Which Western leader has made any attempt to send their own armies into Ukraine?  Meanwhile your favorite, Russia, has brought another army in to assist in their 3-year invasion (and counting).

 

The truth is literally the opposite of what you said.

[beautifulthailand99]

3 hours ago, Seppius said:

No 1 post on Ukraine Redditt.

[MikeandDow]

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

No 1 post on Ukraine Redditt.

love it ! hope trump see's it

[beautifulthailand99]

The Grand Old Men of the GOP aren’t clueless newcomers chasing the MAGA wave—they know the game. Soon, Trump’s tariff lunacy and Putin appeasement will hit home, costing jobs and threatening Congress in its own backyard. When that happens, his support will evaporate. These veterans likely watch Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, and Steve Witkoff with dismay, but their real horror is Trump cozying up to Putin. Beyond Ukraine, what else is he giving away?

 

You don’t become an elder statesman without surviving as a young one. These GOP powerbrokers will ditch Trump the moment he becomes a liability. With his reckless tariffs and the loss of lucrative Ukraine defense contracts, that moment is fast approaching. Their job is survival—staying in power, getting re-elected. Trump needs them more than they need him, but he doesn’t see it. And with the midterms on the horizon, politics remains a cash-driven business: no government contracts, no jobs, no votes.

The wow factor of ditching DEI and Biden’s “woke” policies will fade fast. What Trump lacks is a plan to rebuild prosperity—he offers only destruction. He doesn’t understand manufacturing or its ripple effects. Alienating allies will backfire; “All American” is a myth in a global economy.

 

In less than a month, he’s torched America’s goodwill. No sane foreign business will sign a U.S. contract unless forced to—and only if the U.S. company slashes prices to offset retaliatory tariffs. A $100 widget was competitive against a €105 one; at $120, it’s dead. Business runs on trust, and Trump just burned it.

He’s also going to lose The Hill. His Senate majority is slim, his House margin paper-thin. He’ll need bipartisan deals, but he doesn’t know how Congress works—he’s never done the grind, never earned his stripes. This is purely transactional, and impeachment talk is likely swirling again—this time, it might stick.

His real challenge? Surviving himself.

 

Mu guess is the Republic will hold but only just !

[nomad22]

On 2/19/2025 at 8:31 AM, KhunLA said:

Not now, as USA no longer has a war mongering administration in place.  

Yah, trump only wants to invade Canada, Panama, Greenland, Gaza..........

[NoDisplayName]

33 minutes ago, connda said:

"WAR!" 
Yeah, whatever.  If you want it so badly, volunteer and head to the front and put your derriere's where your mouths are. Hatred is so passé too.    ☮️ 🕊️

 

Would that include 5x deferment Biden, and 4x conscription dodger Zelensky?  I can understand why they think it's safe to send kids into the trenches now.

 

Even Hitler served honourably at the front.

[Walker88]

2 minutes ago, nomad22 said:

Yah, trump only wants to invade Canada, Panama, Greenland, Gaza..........

He's a MAGA, which means idiot and coward. He'd let his wife be gang raped rather than try to protect her, because...you know....he's no war monger. Zelenskyy should have just handed the keys to the country, by MAGA idiocy.

 

Real men fight for what's right and for freedom. Cowards capitulate and appease.

 

MAGA's are scum-sucking cowards.

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, Walker88 said:

Zelenskyy should have just handed the keys to the country, by MAGA idiocy.

 

Idioticy is what Zelensky is doing, as Trump wisely observed in a few months Zelensky won't have a country anymore. Russia is destroying Ukraine.

 

True idioticy is the cheerleading by Western virtue signallers trying to armchair warrior themselves into a frenzy whilst they support the ongoing killing and destruction of Ukraine for a senseless and pointless war that should never have happened.

 

The sooner this war ends, the better it will be.

[NoDisplayName]

32 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

try again  Ukraine  5th from bottom   do you just make up this BS

 

You're not helping your cause.

 

"Sure, everyone knows they're corrupt, but only the fifth most corruptedest!"

 

John Wayne Gacy may be a bad dude, but there are a couple even worse than him, so why not let him out on work release to perform as a clown at your kid's birf'day party?