Did Trump bring shame upon the US with his Zelensky lecture?

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

What next? Noble peace price for Putin? Unlike those bloody leftists he is the one who truly wants peace and is ready to sign it any moment. Those ukrainian extremists are the warmongering thugs.

I will save myself some time by putting you on ignore immediately.

 

Liar.

[mogandave]

Mayor Pete in ‘28!!!!

[frank83628]

18 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

Does this orange clown seriously believe that all that Putin wants is to get some modest chunks of the ukrainian territory? I know that most of his idiot supporters do believe this narrative but isn’t Trump supposed to be a little bit more intelligent than his illiterate fans (99% of whom will not be able to identify Ukraine’s location on the geographic map)?

And what does Putin want then?? 

[frank83628]

Just now, mogandave said:

Mayor Pete in ‘28!!!!

Pronoun Pete, I see he removed them from his x social media 

[Hellfire]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I will save myself some time by putting you on ignore immediately.

 

Liar.

No problem. Just hope you could identify the irony in my post.

[Hellfire]

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

And what does Putin want then?? 

At a minimum, the restoration of the Soviet empire and its influence on international politics to the level it had after 1945, under Stalin.

[frank83628]

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I will save myself some time by putting you on ignore immediately.

 

Liar.

He was being sarcastic, anyone could see that. However you just proved yourself a pompous tit. 

[connda]

Scott Jennings during a CNN segment.  "All Zelensky needed to do was to wear a tie, show up, smile, express gratitude, sign the necessary documents, and have lunch."

That's about right.  Instead we have the war-mongers on the Left screaming about how Trump disrespected the Ukrainian comedian in green-black fatigues. Well, it seems we will have to have a disagreement about who disrespected whom.  And as Trump stated, Zelensky has no cards to play.  Trump and the US hold all the cards. Zelensky is just a moron. 

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, connda said:

Scott Jennings during a CNN segment.  "All Zelensky needed to do was to wear a tie, show up, smile, express gratitude, sign the necessary documents, and have lunch."

 

Yes, just sign the Ukraine death sentence offered by the American bully, without any questions

[connda]

"'All Ukraine war supporters should give up citizenship and go fight in Ukraine. Starting with the politicians'"
-Australian Senator Babet

I agree 100%.

[frank83628]

Just now, Hellfire said:

At a minimum, the restoration of the Soviet empire and its influence on international politics to the level it had after 1945, under Stalin.

You need to find where Putin has said that he wants to restore  the Soviet empire. Russia is a super power,  it is already an influence on international politics, your naïve to think otherwise, perhaps the previous US warhawk administrations wanted Russia gone, but Trump looks at the situation differntly. Ending the war is the main goal, you guys don't want that at all. I suggest you do you bit, put you profile falg to use and go to help on the front lines  

[black tabby12345]

12 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 Denmark has really stepped up their support for Greenland. 

 

So what?

Did they ever request US takeover of their territory?

Did they ever say Yes Please,  when Trump suggested  that US might grab it by force?

 

If you say something, can't you quote something relevant?

[Hellfire]

1 minute ago, connda said:

Scott Jennings during a CNN segment.  "All Zelensky needed to do was to wear a tie, show up, smile, express gratitude, sign the necessary documents, and have lunch."

That's about right.  Instead we have the war-mongers on the Left screaming about how Trump disrespected the Ukrainian comedian in green-black fatigues. Well, it seems we will have to have a disagreement about who disrespected whom.  And as Trump stated, Zelensky has no cards to play.  Trump and the US hold all the cards. Zelensky is just a moron. 

Were Churchill and Roosevelt war mongers too? Instead of pressing Poland to accept the occupation of their country in 1939 by Hitler and Stalin - they declared a war on Germany and Hitler. What a pity that this village idiot Trump was not in power then, he would easily solve the problem with Hitler the way he wants to do it with Putin and Ukraine now.

[bannork]

Trump constantly claims if he had been President in 2022, Putin would never have invaded Ukraine.

Presumably he's implying Putin would have been deterred by USA threatening force , sanctions, etc on Russia.

Well, why doesn't he do that now? Tell Putin to get out of Ukraine or else.

 

 

[Hellfire]

18 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

You need to find where Putin has said that he wants to restore  the Soviet empire. Russia is a super power,  it is already an influence on international politics, your naïve to think otherwise, perhaps the previous US warhawk administrations wanted Russia gone, but Trump looks at the situation differntly. Ending the war is the main goal, you guys don't want that at all. I suggest you do you bit, put you profile falg to use and go to help on the front lines  

Just one quote  from Putin some 20 years ago should be enough:

 

The collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century. (2005)

 

—-

 

I could provide many more quotes of this cold-blooded kgb killer - but his actions speak much louder than any of his words.

[frank83628]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

"'All Ukraine war supporters should give up citizenship and go fight in Ukraine. Starting with the politicians'"
-Australian Senator Babet

I agree 100%.

There are a couple of Aussies on here that should do that too, but theyre mice away from the keyboards

[Hellfire]

23 minutes ago, connda said:

"'All Ukraine war supporters should give up citizenship and go fight in Ukraine. Starting with the politicians'"
-Australian Senator Babet

I agree 100%.

What does “Ukraine war” means in this context? It means the war which Putin and Russia initiated against Ukraine and its people. Sane people of the world don’t support this war. They do support the right of the Ukraine to defend itself against this outrageous act of aggression. Looks like the Australian senator is another example of illiterate clown with a lot of power.

[andersonat]

6 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

Were Churchill and Roosevelt war mongers too? Instead of pressing Poland to accept the occupation of their country in 1939 by Hitler and Stalin - they declared a war on Germany and Hitler. What a pity that this village idiot Trump was not in power then, he would easily solve the problem with Hitler the way he wants to do it with Putin and Ukraine now.

 

The US wasn't (actively) involved in 1939.

 

On 11 December 1941, three days after the United States declared war on Japan, Germany declared war on the US.  Italy also declared war on the US on the same day.

  -  That same day, the US, in its turn, declared war on Germany and Italy.

 

 

[tomazbodner]

4 minutes ago, bannork said:

Trump constantly claims if he had been President in 2022, Putin would never have invaded Ukraine.

Presumably he's implying Putin would have been deterred by USA threatening force , sanctions, etc on Russia.

Well, why doesn't he do that now? Tell Putin to get out of Ukraine or else.

Because he would just give Ukraine to Russia, like he will give Taiwan to China.

[rough diamond]

54 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

True last sentence. 

Of yours I hope!

[Hellfire]

4 minutes ago, andersonat said:

 

The US wasn't (actively) involved in 1939.

 

On 11 December 1941, three days after the United States declared war on Japan, Germany declared war on the US.  Italy also declared war on the US on the same day.

  -  That same day, the US, in its turn, declared war on Germany and Italy.

 

 

Was the eventual full involvement of the US a historic mistake or what? 

[Tug]

7 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

The left is going crazy over this. Trump wants to stop war and they hate him for it. Who can understand this?

Well gee wizz could it possibly be that the felon is a greater asset to that criminal putin than 10 Russian armored divisions???perhaps it’s because trump just wrecked all of our alliances and sides with the most ruthless criminal alive today?trump wants the Ukrainian nation to submit to the Russian boot and wants a share of the loot.This debacle obviously emboldens the rest of the bad actors knowing that the USA under trump will submit if threatened.Trump has now made the world a far more dangerous place he is a weak man hiding behind the authority of the United States.

[connda]

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

There are a couple of Aussies on here that should do that too, but theyre mice away from the keyboards

As far as I'm concerned every member on this forum who hates Russians and wants war needs to get off their butts, sign up to go to Ukraine, and put their butts where their mouths are - on the Ukrainian Eastern Front.  Go get a rifle and kit and go kill Russians for your hero Zelensky.

Here, let me help ya'll on your way.  There you go.  Go show Putin whose boss! 

 

[tomazbodner]

Just now, connda said:

As far as I'm concerned every member on this forum who hates Russians and wants war needs to get off their butts, sign up to go to Ukraine, and put their butts where their mouths are - on the Ukrainian Eastern Front.  Go get a rifle and kit and go kill Russians for your hero Zelensky.

Here, let me help ya'll on your way.  There you go.  Go show Putin whose boss! 

 

Are you on the way to enlist as cannon fodder in Russian army yet? Davay tovarish!

[mogandave]

29 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Yes, just sign the Ukraine death sentence offered by the American bully, without any questions

Why did he go to a signing ceremony if he was not going to sign? 

 

Everything was agreed to beforehand. 

 

Are yiu forgetting that?

[black tabby12345]

42 minutes ago, andersonat said:

 

The American Right-Wing *detest* all-Things-"Communist", and use the word *continually* to characterise/criticise/demonise all-Things-Democrat.

 

  --  But don't they feel a tad out-of-place while America sidles up politically alongside ("Ex-Communist"/Totalitarian) Russia and especially ("Communist") China ?

 

 

My Fundamental Question:

What makes Trump So Strongly  Pro-Russia(Poo-tin)?

Did he get Any Big Cash Injection from that bald-headed lunatic dictator?

[connda]

1 minute ago, connda said:

As far as I'm concerned every member on this forum who hates Russians and wants war needs to get off their butts, sign up to go to Ukraine, and put their butts where their mouths are - on the Ukrainian Eastern Front.  Go get a rifle and kit and go kill Russians for your hero Zelensky.

Here, let me help ya'll on your way.  There you go.  Go show Putin whose boss! 

 

But no.  These people who complain the loudest and hate Russians the most just want to sit in their computer chairs here in Thailand, drink beer, and urge Western politician to send Ukrainian, European, British, and America men to go fight in Ukraine. Send everyone else kids and grandkids except their own or themselves.  These people are all hot-air and cowardliness.  The only people who need to feel shame are these hate-filled, pro-war, wind-bags.

[connda]

11 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Are you on the way to enlist as cannon fodder in Russian army yet? Davay tovarish!

Are you that stupid?  Must be. I'm anti-war.  And unlike you I'm a US veteran with 8 years of service. Back when the Soviets were actually a threat.  Russian today is not a threat.  But you're another Russian hater so don't miss your chances to go kill Ivan for your God Zelensky.  Here's your chance Adolf.  Go push the Ruskies back to Moscow.
 

 

[PomPolo]

Yes he did with that knob end Vance and if I was American I would have woke up today and be ashamed of my nationality simples!

[Hellfire]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

But no.  These people who complain the loudest and hate Russians the most just want to sit in their computer chairs here in Thailand, drink beer, and urge Western politician to send Ukrainian, European, British, and America men to go fight in Ukraine. Send everyone else kids and grandkids except their own or themselves.  These people are all hot-air and cowardliness.  The only people who need to feel shame are these hate-filled, pro-war, wind-bags.

I wonder will you have the same argument when and if Putin or Xi will invade your own country? Will you call your compatriots the war mongers in case they will decide to resist the invaders? Will you be the one who will consider the full occupation of your country as a true peaceful solution?