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That military fascism theater was just that.

It was much more expensive than the classic methods.

No decent American is against deporting dangerous criminal undocumented migrants.

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That military fascism theater was just that.

It was much more expensive than the classic methods.

No decent American is against deporting dangerous criminal undocumented migrants.

So why are so many cities and states refusing to cooperate? 

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5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

So why are so many cities and states refusing to cooperate? 

Because the undocumented migrants are doing the crap jobs no American wants to do.

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I guess DOGE has got around to examining the cost/benefit aspects of deportations.

 

By all means throw out the criminals and drug dealers. Throwing out cheap labor that keeps the cost of supermarket vegetables down is insane.

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Decent Americans want comprehensive immigration reform where productive undocumented migrants have a path towards being legal, etc.

Republicans only want an endless political issue to run on. 

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4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Because the undocumented migrants are doing the crap jobs no American wants to do.

 

The left is absolutely in love with what amounts to slave labor. Those brown skinned people toiling in the fields to provide cheap avocados. Not insisting on them learning English is like when the slave owners used to prohibit slaves from becoming literate. The only solution to it all is keep picking avocados. If you didn't know as Schumer so eloquently explained guacamole is made from avocados.

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1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I guess DOGE has got around to examining the cost/benefit aspects of deportations.

 

By all means throw out the criminals and drug dealers. Throwing out cheap labor that keeps the cost of supermarket vegetables down is insane.

Seems doubtful.

Doge does nothing to stop Musk's business corruption or stunts like Trump driving around the Daytona track wasting millions of dollars on nothing.

I'm actually surprised that they're stopping the massively overpriced military plane fascism theater.

It's not about stopping deportations. It's only about stopping that stupid transport method.

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Just now, Cryingdick said:

 

The left is absolutely in love with what amounts to slave labor. Those brown skinned people toiling in the fields to provide cheap avocados. Not insisting on them learning English is like when the slave owners used to prohibit slaves from becoming literate. The only solution to it all is keep picking avocados. If you didn't know as Schumer so eloquently explained guacamole is made from avocados.

The left is? You're hilarious!

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Just now, Jingthing said:

Seems doubtful.

Doge does nothing to stop Musk's business corruption or stunts like Trump driving around the Daytona track wasting millions of dollars on nothing.

I'm actually surprised that they're stopping the massively overpriced military plane fascism theater.

It's not about stopping deportations. It's only about stopping that stupid transport method.

 

Deportations are failing to meet anywhere near the announced goals.

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Just now, Jingthing said:

The left is? You're hilarious!

 

The right actually tries to deny they do it. The left proudly exclaims their love over loud speakers for slave labor.

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2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I guess DOGE has got around to examining the cost/benefit aspects of deportations.

 

By all means throw out the criminals and drug dealers. Throwing out cheap labor that keeps the cost of supermarket vegetables down is insane.

All you guys seem to care about is money. 

 

Why do you not care that illegals drive down wages and drive up housing, education and medical costs for the working poor? 

 

Why not just cut corporate income taxes, that would reduce prices and not hurt the poor. 

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1 minute ago, John Drake said:

 

Deportations are failing to meet anywhere near the announced goals.

That's true. Trump has been incompetent on that. Nothing to do with the stupid massively more expensive military plan option.

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Just now, mogandave said:

All you guys seem to care about is money. 

 

Why do you not care that illegals drive down wages and drive up housing, education and medical costs for the working poor? 

 

Why not just cut corporate income taxes, that would reduce prices and not hurt the poor. 

Kick too many out and housing costs will go even higher. Who do you think does most of the building trade jobs!?!

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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

That's true. Trump has been incompetent on that. Nothing to do with the stupid massively more expensive military plan option.

 

I think the military planes were just to send a message. They were more like commercials for why not to come here. Biden really made a mess that is hard to fix and did it intentionally.

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Just now, Cryingdick said:

 

I think the military planes were just to send a message. They were more like commercials for why not to come here. Biden really made a mess that is hard to fix and did it intentionally.

In any case, if Trump has scared off new illegal migration, I'm fine with that. but as said he's been a nothingburger on deportation numbers. The vast majority of Americans do want undocumented serious criminals deported. Get on with it but go lighter on people who are contributing. Many of those will also be deported but no rational reason to go overboard.

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Kick too many out and housing costs will go even higher. Who do you think does most of the building trade jobs!?!

 

Do you have anything that backs up the claim that most of the trades are done by illegals? I have done many projects over the years and have never hired a single illegal to do anything for me. Is it truly your assertion that more than 50% of trades jobs are done by illegals? Maybe in some states that is true.

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1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I think the military planes were just to send a message. They were more like commercials for why not to come here. Biden really made a mess that is hard to fix and did it intentionally.

 

Perhaps if Trump focused on the central threat to the country, the millions and millions of people let in without the slightest background check, instead of going to war with Canada and Mexico, then deportations might get the resources they need.

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5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Decent Americans want comprehensive immigration reform where productive undocumented migrants have a path towards being legal, etc.

Republicans only want an endless political issue to run on. 

Like the left’s abortion? 

 

Back when Democrats supported working class Americans, they were very much against illegal immigration. What happened? Why di Biden open the border and flood the country with them? 

 

Illegals living in New York hotels and getting subsidies are not helping working class Americans, they are only helping the politicaly connected hotel owners and NPOs 

 

Why can we not seal the border, and bring legal immigrants in as we need them? 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

The left is absolutely in love with what amounts to slave labor. Those brown skinned people toiling in the fields to provide cheap avocados. Not insisting on them learning English is like when the slave owners used to prohibit slaves from becoming literate. The only solution to it all is keep picking avocados. If you didn't know as Schumer so eloquently explained guacamole is made from avocados.

I guess you won't mind paying more for your vegetables, then. Some people like the holier than thou shtick.

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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

In any case, if Trump has scared off new illegal migration, I'm fine with that. but as said he's been a nothingburger on deportation numbers. The vast majority of Americans do want undocumented serious criminals deported. Get on with it but go lighter on people who are contributing. Many of those will also be deported but no rational reason to go overboard.

 

The harmless ones are just like the visa overstays in Thailand. Leave them be but if you come into contact with law enforcement you are taken. That's pretty normal.

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1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Do you have anything that backs up the claim that most of the trades are done by illegals? I have done many projects over the years and have never hired a single illegal to do anything for me. Is it truly your assertion that more than 50% of trades jobs are done by illegals? Maybe in some states that is true.

Ever been to a Home Depot parking lot? 

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5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Kick too many out and housing costs will go even higher.

Loweing demad drives costs up? 

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Who do you think does most of the building trade jobs!?!

Not illegals.

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1 minute ago, John Drake said:

 

Perhaps if Trump focused on the central threat to the country, the millions and millions of people let in without the slightest background check, instead of going to war with Canada and Mexico, then deportations might get the resources they need.

 

The type of resources needed don't exist. 

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Ever been to a Home Depot parking lot? 

 

Yeah way more times than you have. Several times this past week as i am building. You are exaggerating based upon stuff you have only read on the internet. When is the last time you were in a Home Depot parking lot if ever?

 

Now please provide evidence of your claim that illegals do most of the trades work in the USA.

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2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Do you have anything that backs up the claim that most of the trades are done by illegals? I have done many projects over the years and have never hired a single illegal to do anything for me. Is it truly your assertion that more than 50% of trades jobs are done by illegals? Maybe in some states that is true.

I get it, as a statistical sample of one employer, you are living proof the building trade does not employ illegals.

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3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I guess you won't mind paying more for your vegetables, then. Some people like the holier than thou shtick.

 

If paying more means less slave labor. I'll gladly pay more. 

 

 

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