UPDATE: Horrific details emerge on Gene Hackman's Death !

[CharlieH]

 

In a chilling chapter from Hollywood, iconic star Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, were tragically found dead in their Santa Fe haven. The couple, married for decades, met a grim end after Betsy succumbed to a rare rat-borne disease called Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome.

 

Authorities pinpointed Betsy's death to February 11, while Gene, suffering from advanced Alzheimer's and heart disease, likely passed on February 18. His inability to comprehend his wife's demise left him living beside her decaying body in separate rooms until their mummified remains were discovered on February 26.

 

The shocking find has rattled their wealthy neighborhood, known for its celebrity residents. Investigators revealed Arakawa's infection kicked in rapidly, showing flu-like symptoms, before fatally attacking her lungs. Though their main home was free from infestation, rodent traces were noted in the garage and additional buildings.

 

Gene, beset by health woes, including heart disease, perhaps passed without food or dehydration marks in his system. He was discovered near his glasses and cane, possibly indicating a fall. Prescription pills, scattered across the scene, stemmed from Arakawa's thyroid treatment, ruling out overdose suspicions.

 

Daughter Elizabeth's theory of carbon monoxide poisoning was promptly dismissed by investigators who found no trace of the gas. The famed actor—known for roles in "The French Connection" and "Unforgiven"—had not been public for decades, dedicating his twilight years to art and literature far from the limelight.

 

The couple's tranquil, Pueblo-style abode had been their retreat from Gene's Hollywood tenure, underscoring a staggering conclusion to an illustrious career marred by unforeseen circumstances.

 

Based on information from DailyMail.com.

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

Poor old Gene, nobody cared enough to visit him or his wife for more than a week, maybe two.

[MicroB]

My father died of Alzheimer's; in the end, it affects your autonomic functions (you go into heart failure).

 

Gene Hackman had a pacemaker. People with dementia are more likely to receive a pacemaker than those without dementia.

 

https://www.alzinfo.org/articles/people-with-alzheimers-more-likely-to-get-pacemakers/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5839643/

 

 

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“Oh yeah, [telling the doctor she has AD] that’s one of the first things I mention to all the doctors. In fact, they had a sitter several days with her [while in the hospital]. That’s one of the first things I mention to medical people. No one mentioned her AD when we discussed the pacemaker.”

 

“Once the [device] is in there, if you have other kinds of medical problems, it could keep you going kind of artificially rather than letting your life end in a natural kind of way. Just think about that. Is that what you want?”

 

“I believed it was urgent. It was a priority according to the doctors. It wasn’t something that you could debate.”

 

 

 

 

 

In the month before his death, my father had a fall while in respite care. The cardiologist wanted to fit him with a pacemaker. For most of the family, the immediate instinct was yes, we must extend his life. My mother stopped that. She was right for so many reasons. 1, he probably wouldn't have survived the operation. 2, if he did, he probably wouldn't have left hospital, instead dying with tubes coming out of him, surrounded by beeping noises and the sounds of other people dying, dying due to some post-operative infection.

 

While a surgeon was pushing for the surgery, the department head, speaking with my mother, agreed that a pacemaker would be of no benefit to my father. If my father didn't have family, they would have likely pushed through with the surgery, as he lacked capacity.

 

So he went home. He never fully regained consciousness, but we talked, and I knew the end was nigh when he stopped squeezing my hand in acknowledgement I was there. He died in his own bed, he knew everyone to the end, and literally the last words he   said was "bye bye", so my brother who came for the final visit with his children. I sat with him that night, and in the morning refitted his dentures before the undertakers turned up. That's not too bad an end.

 

The thing about Alzheimers is the person isn't gone, just locked away. My father was an army captain and biochemist, and amateur military historian. He was a highly intelligent man, grown up in postwar East London, and self educated, having pursued a BA and MA in Arts and Humanities in retirement (thesis; the impact of Sir Alfred Keogh, RAMC, on the creation of the NHS as a result of the Boer War). That part of his life seemed to fade away in the latter months of his life, and he relied on anecdotes, probably partly imagined, about himself as a young boy, and it was always the same stories. He was trying to stay relevant, be part of the conversation. But with the right stimulus, he came back. For instance, he served in the Middle East in the early 80s, when he set up Bahrain's military laboratory service. Playing music from that era seemed to unlock something, because we could engage in conversation about the present, drawing upon his technical experience, ie, he could think in an abstract manner.

 

But that being said, I don't expect a cure for dementia in my lifetime. One of the horrific side effects of a pacemaker in the body of the dementia patient is that it keeps the body alive long after the person has gone. In some cases, families have had to apply to the Court for the pacemaker to be turned off. I can't imagine the trauma people would be going through to reach that stage of desperation. Hackman's death wouldn't have been a good one. His caring wife was dead, but he had no idea. His dog was dead, but he had no idea. He would have been hungry but no idea why. And thirsty but unable to drink. He would have died in fear and in his own filth. A sad end to a worthwhile and valuable life. But death is the great leveller.

 

There might be further fall out from this. His wife died from a hantavirus infection, and reportedly, there was open medication in the house, but its not clear what it was. Was she undergoing treatment, but wouldn't leave her husband, because there was no one she felt could take care of him. Was she self medicating what she was a bad cold, but because she was caring for a husband with "advanced Alzheimers", she wouldn't seek medical advice. Hackman would have passed as a relatively wealthy man, but even he didn't get the care we would all hope to get.

 

In my living will, if there is dementia, no pacemaker, DNR. Sometimes my dad wouldn't recognise me, but we talked, and he'll remember, and apologise. My Grandfather probably had undiagnosed AD. He forgot he even had kids, let  alone grandchildren. And he also had undergone  cardiovascular surgery in the years before.

[JAG]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Poor old Gene, nobody cared enough to visit him or his wife for more than a week, maybe two.

8 days at least.

Did no one even pick up the phone?

[advancebooking]

4 hours ago, MicroB said:

But that being said, I don't expect a cure for dementia in my lifetime.

Many doctors are saying that Alzhiemers/ dim symptoms are reversible using Keto diet. Must completely cut out sugars and carbs. High fat protein diet. The body goes into ketosis and burns fats not sugars. Incredible effect on the brain. Also one must consume MCT oil and coconut oil.  Many youtube videos on this by researchers and doctors. 

[connda]

It still just seems strange.  You have an 90 something husband with Alzheimer's and other health issues, you're in your mid-60s, you get sick, and you neither seek out medical attention or call anyone to let them know you're sick and probably unable to care for your husband.  In this day and age of computers, mobile phones, and family but you don't reach out.  And worse, nobody checked in. And no medical care for what should otherwise be a wealthy film actor who should be able to afford live-in assistance.

Just very, very odd.

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, JAG said:

8 days at least.

Did no one even pick up the phone?

Why didnt he call somebody. He would have had names on speed dial. No maid either. Seems odd for a rich guy.

[metisdead]

A baiting troll post has been removed.

[JAG]

19 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Why didnt he call somebody. He would have had names on speed dial. No maid either. Seems odd for a rich guy.

He was suffering from advanced Alzheimer's Disease.

[Harrisfan]

7 minutes ago, JAG said:

He was suffering from advanced Alzheimer's Disease.

No family or friends to check on him or her? Maybe they lived a quiet life. 8 days is a long time.

[JAG]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

No family or friends to check on him or her? Maybe they lived a quiet life. 8 days is a long time.

That is what I said.

[CharlieH]

10 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

No family or friends to check on him or her? Maybe they lived a quiet life. 8 days is a long time.

He died a week after her ! so thats around two weeks atleast with no contact with anyone. 

 

The poor dog starved to death in the crate too. 

 

I always thought pacemakers had an alarm built-in and if they stopped, the hospital or wherever was notified?

[Harrisfan]

Must have lived like a hermit couple. Little family contact. Great actor. Top 5 of all time imo. The movie with Will Smith was great.

[JonnyF]

Sounds fishy to me. Doesn't make sense on many levels.

 

Anyway RIP. Great actor. 

 

 

[Keep Right]

Not long ago Gene Hackman, while being interviewed stated something truly important about our leader.

He initially described how he met the current president of the United States:

Well I have met Donald Trump back in the 80's, he was a guest at my party in New York."

"We discussed and he really seemed like a decent guy, in fact i liked him."

He also added that when he heard Donald Trump is going to be the Republican candidate for the election he was truly shocked.

I didn't believe it, but in fact I was happy because I knew that a successful businessman could get on the top of our nation."

Hackman also went ahead and stated something truly amazing in regards to Trump's one year as president of the United States:

"So what do i think about Trump now? It is possible he could turn out to the be one the best presidents that America has ever seen."

"His initial year is fascinating he made numerous of positive changes. Just keep on doing the same, Mr. President!"

[frank83628]

8 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

Not long ago Gene Hackman, while being interviewed stated something truly important about our leader.

He initially described how he met the current president of the United States:

Well I have met Donald Trump back in the 80's, he was a guest at my party in New York."

"We discussed and he really seemed like a decent guy, in fact i liked him."

He also added that when he heard Donald Trump is going to be the Republican candidate for the election he was truly shocked.

I didn't believe it, but in fact I was happy because I knew that a successful businessman could get on the top of our nation."

Hackman also went ahead and stated something truly amazing in regards to Trump's one year as president of the United States:

"So what do i think about Trump now? It is possible he could turn out to the be one the best presidents that America has ever seen."

"His initial year is fascinating he made numerous of positive changes. Just keep on doing the same, Mr. President!"

Not sure why you had to add that. The situation was quite tragic by all accounts, doesnt need to be made political, i'd expect that from a democrat or DJTDS 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, metisdead said:

A baiting troll post has been removed.

Thank you.

[frank83628]

All seems quite plausible, the dog got shipped back in a grate, cage, what ever, she died before opening it, Gene was that far gone he didnt realise she'd died, couldn't fend for himself.

You'd have thought there were some cleaners or helpers employed, or even some family local.

Sad ending for a great guy, the Superman films are part of history.

[MicroB]

2 hours ago, advancebooking said:

Many doctors are saying that Alzhiemers/ dim symptoms are reversible using Keto diet. Must completely cut out sugars and carbs. High fat protein diet. The body goes into ketosis and burns fats not sugars. Incredible effect on the brain. Also one must consume MCT oil and coconut oil.  Many youtube videos on this by researchers and doctors. 

 

 

Alzheimers is not a single disease; its a syndrome resulting in a similar symptoms. For instance, some forms are caused by Type 3 Diabetes. About 25% of cases are related to Herpes simplex, and then you get into an autimmunity disease.

 

Those benefiting from the ketogenic diet are likely to be those with impaired glucose control, ie T3D.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

NOT, NOT horrific.

 

These details are just natural happenstances that can happen to the best of us, when one gets old and senile.

 

Both lived to a ripe old age.

 

And, they died in LUXURY with good dogs around them.

 

I, for one, would wish to be half as fortunate as they....however...I will...I predict...NOT...

 

Be so fortunate in my demise.

 

Yet....probably I deserve it....just because....

 

I am NOT as good an actor as the GREAT Hackman....

 

The True Popeye of of all Popeyes 

 

 

Jimmy, you were truly AMAZING....

 

JIMMY .....WHEN ARE YOU COMING BACK.....

Probably never....

 

There was only ever one great Jimmy Doyle.....

 

HACKMAN was GOLD....

 

This song goes out to you....GENE.....

LOVE YOU.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JonnyF]

42 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

All seems quite plausible, the dog got shipped back in a grate, cage, what ever, she died before opening it, Gene was that far gone he didnt realise she'd died, couldn't fend for himself.

You'd have thought there were some cleaners or helpers employed, or even some family local.

Sad ending for a great guy, the Superman films are part of history.

 

Sounds about as plausible as Epsteins suicide to me.

 

She didn't seek help for the lung infection? Just waited until she dropped dead from it...

 

Nobody checked on either of them for days?

 

He was that far gone as to not notice? He didn't have daycare people coming in? Relatives?

 

The dog in the cage?

 

The only reason I think it could be true is that nobody would make up a story so bizarre and expect people to believe it. 

 

But then they believed 3 huge towers could implode perfectly into their own footprint 2 hours after a couple of planes hit them so...

[MicroB]

2 hours ago, connda said:

It still just seems strange.  You have an 90 something husband with Alzheimer's and other health issues, you're in your mid-60s, you get sick, and you neither seek out medical attention or call anyone to let them know you're sick and probably unable to care for your husband.  In this day and age of computers, mobile phones, and family but you don't reach out.  And worse, nobody checked in. And no medical care for what should otherwise be a wealthy film actor who should be able to afford live-in assistance.

Just very, very odd.

 

 

It might not be that odd if they were a couple wanting to live a very private life. Since 2020, they were basically recluses. His wife was 3 decades younger than him. What happened to her seems to have been a freak occurence. The mortality rate of hantavirus is 50%.

 

The wife had picked the dog up from the vet on the 9th Feb. This was the dog that was found dead. She was dead by the 11th Feb.  The medication found was for a thyroid condition.

 

The house was on an isolated 12m acre estate. Its not the sort of place where neighbours wave at each other on driveways.

 

People with AD really have cognition problems. My father would never step on a black mat, because he throught it was a giant deep hole. He had lived in the same house for 40 years, but was convinced he was in a hotel. My mother had been a paraplegic for a decade, but he was convinced she was faking it, and on occasion lifted her out of the wheelchair throwing her on the floor, insisting that she should walk. He would wander out into the garden at night, sit down on a garden seat and defecate, thinking he was going to the toilet. People who find it a mystery why Hackman didn't pick up the phone don't have any experience of AD

 

My parents had an emergency line installed by the RBL, who wanted a £1000 a year for a telephone answering service (not a hospital hotline). It was canceled.

 

The average life expectancy after diagnosis is 5 years. My father was put on medication that they promised would extend his "good years". He died 62 months after diagnosis.

[MicroB]

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Why didnt he call somebody. He would have had names on speed dial. No maid either. Seems odd for a rich guy.

 

When you have advanced AD you literally don't recognise a phone as a phone.

 

Why would he need a maid?

[Harrisfan]

Just now, MicroB said:

 

When you have advanced AD you literally don't recognise a phone as a phone.

 

Why would he need a maid?

Why not have a maid or cleaner once a week? Rich enough.

[MicroB]

21 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

NOT, NOT horrific.

 

These details are just natural happenstances that can happen to the best of us, when one gets old and senile.

 

Both lived to a ripe old age.

 

 

The wife was 65 years old. Not a ripe old age. Died 2-3 days into an infection.

[GammaGlobulin]

11 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

 

The wife was 65 years old. Not a ripe old age. Died 2-3 days into an infection.

 

Gene was not ripe?

 

But, for sure, after lying around for days before discovery...then...maybe....

He was ripe....

Indeed.

 

[GammaGlobulin]

One of the greatest beginnings to any movie must have been The French Connection, with Hackman....

Waking up in a tiny room....

About to go to work.

 

Fantastic.....

 

Most of you guys are just too young to recall this scene...watching it when you were young, and...

Impressionable....

 

Sorry..but no clip available for free on YT....of this....

 

((Wait.  I just downloaded the French Connection and....  I think I might have mixed up the beginning of two movies....  I think it was the beginning of the film SERPICO that I was referring to.  Anyway, Hackman was greater than Al Pacino....in every which way.))

[BritManToo]

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Sounds about as plausible as Epsteins suicide to me.

 

She didn't seek help for the lung infection? Just waited until she dropped dead from it...

 

Nobody checked on either of them for days?

 

He was that far gone as to not notice? He didn't have daycare people coming in? Relatives?

 

The dog in the cage?

 

The only reason I think it could be true is that nobody would make up a story so bizarre and expect people to believe it. 

 

But then they believed 3 huge towers could implode perfectly into their own footprint 2 hours after a couple of planes hit them so...

Rich elderly couple with many dogs, a big house and garden but no cleaners or gardeners.

3 adult children that didn't care and no interest in inheriting?

Seems unlikely ........

[MicroB]

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

She didn't seek help for the lung infection? Just waited until she dropped dead from it...

 

 

You are a conspiracy theorist, and see conspiracy on every corner. Hence I refuse to quote most of your crazy comment. You are typical of the person brought out of the woodwork onto social media in the last few years. Hence your Avatar, where you imagine yourself to be a drug dealer from a violent video game.

 

The strain in that part of the US is particularly virulant, much more so than other strains. Thats why 50% of people infected die.  Even if admitted to ICU, 33% of patients won't make it. Risk is greatly increased following El Nino events.

 

Mrs Hackman has picked up her dog on the 9th, and was apparently in good health at that time. She spoke to someone on the 11th, again, with no apparent symptoms. By nightfall she was dead.

 

You've probably had sniffles before, maybe a cough. What did you do, panic and run to hospital crying like a baby, or reach for the strepsils?

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Rich elderly couple with many dogs, a big house and garden but no cleaners or gardeners.

3 adult children that didn't care and no interest in inheriting?

Seems unlikely ........

 

 

How do you know they didn't have a gardener. They were discoverd by maintenance workers, which are gardeners.

 

One of his daughters said they kept in regular contact. I haven't spoken to my mother for 12 days. She'll be ok.

 

Not everyone is like you.