Biden AutoPen Signature scandal

[SunnyinBangrak]

Help me understand the forum lefts outrage against Trump over this.

 

An unknown person gave corrupt politicians pre-emptive and all encompassing pardons for crimes not charged yet going back over a decade, using some automated pen.

 

And Trump is the problem??

 

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Still waiting for the powerful evidence and arguments you apparently  believed you had.

I already made you look like a fool, guess you still cant understand the issue or the argument 

[Yagoda]

36 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Help me understand the forum lefts outrage against Trump over this.

 

An unknown person gave corrupt politicians pre-emptive and all encompassing pardons for crimes not charged yet going back over a decade, using some automated pen.

 

And Trump is the problem??

 

It would be really cool to enpanel a grand jury though.  Begin with the pardon office. Joe of course would have to affirm, under oath, that he personally pardoned each person and directed that same be reduced to writing. Of course he wouldnt remember.

 

Take Milley: How did he end up on the pardon list? Who talked to him?

[SLOWHAND225]

3 hours ago, Purdey said:

Several presidents have used an autopen. It isn't illegal. 

However, any president who magically declassifies documents by just saying, "I hereby declare you declassified!" Is in trouble. 

Get out of the sun......... 
Nobodies saying using an auto pen is illegal, at all. 
They're saying that his staffer used the pen to sign things poopypants didn't know about.

Actually, the President does have that authority. You should spend just a little bit of time reading about EO # 13526
You should also read about Original classification authorities and derivative classifiers so you know the difference.
And not to put too fine a point on it but documents are not classified, the information on them is.

[placeholder]

31 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I already made you look like a fool, guess you still cant understand the issue or the argument 

As usual, instead of engaging with the issues attempting a rational refutation of the specific points I raised, All you can do is engage in name calling.

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As usual, instead of engaging with the issues attempting a rational refutation of the specific points I raised, All you can do is engage in name calling.

OK, here: You still cant understand the issue or the argument. Why dont you reread.

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

OK, here: You still cant understand the issue or the argument. Why dont you reread.

Or maybe the problem is that you just don't write very well. At any rate You're still offering the same refusal to engage in specifics.

[rough diamond]

27 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Or maybe the problem is that you just don't write very well. At any rate You're still offering the same refusal to engage in specifics.

I thought you would have known by now that it is impossible to have a logical discussion/exchange of views with Yagoda as it only responds to it's own/only line of thought.

I no longer interreact with it as it is a waste of time as you must be realising by now.

[riclag]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Help me understand the forum lefts outrage against Trump over this.

 

An unknown person gave corrupt politicians pre-emptive and all encompassing pardons for crimes not charged yet going back over a decade, using some automated pen.

 

And Trump is the problem??

 

I like the way you explained it too.

 

Here’s Missouri AG  explaining the purpose behind voiding the pardons.

 

Legal minds are approaching the Autopen pardons through questioning Bidens mental acuity ! 

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

I thought you would have known by now that it is impossible to have a logical discussion/exchange of views with Yagoda as it only responds to it's own/only line of thought.

I no longer interreact with it as it is a waste of time as you must be realising by now.

Rather than constantly discussing/attacking other members, why do you not try to come up a comment of you own?

[Yagoda]

38 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Or maybe the problem is that you just don't write very well. At any rate You're still offering the same refusal to engage in specifics.

Well let me help you.

 

Do you think the existence of a pardon can be challenged by the Gov, if raised by a person as a defense to a criminal charge?