BBC Senior Managers from Minority Backgrounds Earn More Than Peers, Data Shows

[blaze master]

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

In socialism, all citizens are equal. No further decision on that is necessary. That's what socialism is all about.

No, I did not know you were not talking about animals when you talked about animals. Silly me! It doesn't matter where a quote you use comes from, but it would be nice if you'd identify the author when using a quote. Anyway, humans think they're the only important animal on this planet, and use all other animals in any way they want to. 

 

For someone so bent on socialism you are extreme uninformed. Who controls the socialist society ? Which goes right back to my extremely famous quote on this matter.

 

You should just go continue to live the life capitalism has provided you and stop whining about socialism on the Internet and in books. 

 

The hypocrisy is among the juciest I have ever seen. 

[dinsdale]

12 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

In socialism, all citizens are equal. No further decision on that is necessary. That's what socialism is all about.

No, I did not know you were not talking about animals when you talked about animals. Silly me! It doesn't matter where a quote you use comes from, but it would be nice if you'd identify the author when using a quote. Anyway, humans think they're the only important animal on this planet, and use all other animals in any way they want to. 

Animal Farm. George Orwell. 1945. "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others."

Interestingly DEI makes some people be it by colour of skin, sex. with or without a disability more equal than others. 

[rough diamond]

25 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Mate if you want to talk about being a pedantic pr!ck! it was you who said it's not tax payer funded and that it's funded by license fees. I'm sorry that the logic of my argument was too much for you and to get you triggered into an ad hominem attack. Settle down and think before you post. All I said is the BBC is tax payer funded. It is tax payer funded. Nowhere in my OP did I say it was funded through taxation.

More puerile pedantry.

Goodbye.

[WDSmart]

7 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

For someone so bent on socialism you are extreme uninformed. Who controls the socialist society ? Which goes right back to my extremely famous quote on this matter.

 

You should just go continue to live the life capitalism has provided you and stop whining about socialism on the Internet and in books. 

 

The hypocrisy is among the juciest I have ever seen. 

Socialism is an economic system, not a governmental system. A socialist economy could exist, theoretically, under many different types of government, but it would be most appropriate under a democracy or republic. So it would be the government that "controls" the socialist economy.

I don't whine about socialism. I advocate it.

I'm not being hypocritical. I've been a far-left liberal and an advocate of socialism for over 50 years. I'm just being honest about where I'd like to see humans evolve socially in the future, but I really don't think we're going to be able to do that. We (humans) are just too full of hubris. 

[WDSmart]

16 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Animal Farm. George Orwell. 1945. "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others."

Interestingly DEI makes some people be it by colour of skin, sex. with or without a disability more equal than others. 

Thanks for identifying the quote.

DEI does not make anyone "more equal" than others. DEI recognizes that, in the past, hiring was done with a bias. What DEI tries to do is to address that problem by recommending a "reverse bias" until the workforce better represents the community.

[blaze master]

5 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Socialism is an economic system, not a governmental system. A socialist economy could exist, theoretically, under many different types of government, but it would be most appropriate under a democracy or republic. So it would be the government that "controls" the socialist economy.

I don't whine about socialism. I advocate it.

I'm not being hypocritical. I've been a far-left liberal and an advocate of socialism for over 50 years. I'm just being honest about where I'd like to see humans evolve socially in the future, but I really don't think we're going to be able to do that. We (humans) are just too full of hubris. 

 

So what you advocate for something you don't abide by yourself. Please refrain from your usual excuses. You can own nothing and live as a monk but you don't. End of story. The definition of hypocrisy.

 

In this socialist economic system. Who controls the resources and I guess value would be the right word maybe ?

 

 

 

[blaze master]

5 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Thanks for identifying the quote.

DEI does not make anyone "more equal" than others. DEI recognizes that, in the past, hiring was done with a bias. What DEI tries to do is to address that problem by recommending a "reverse bias" until the workforce better represents the community.

 

Apparently it did make others more equal. You seem to be missing what actually happened as per this thread and the report.

 

 

[WDSmart]

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

So what you advocate for something you don't abide by yourself. Please refrain from your usual excuses. You can own nothing and live as a monk but you don't. End of story. The definition of hypocrisy.

 

In this socialist economic system. Who controls the resources and I guess value would be the right word maybe ?

 

 

 

I've never lived in a socialist society, even here in Thailand. For all my life I've lived in the USA, a society that had a mix of capitalism and socialism. I did what I had to to comply with that society.  I've never wanted to be a monk. For most of my working years, I worked as a data processing designer, which I liked very much. Now, since I've retired, I enjoy the social services my country gives me (which I paid for). No hypocrisy there.

In a socialistic economic system, the resources are controlled and distributed by the government, just as I said before.

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Thanks for identifying the quote.

DEI does not make anyone "more equal" than others. DEI recognizes that, in the past, hiring was done with a bias. What DEI tries to do is to address that problem by recommending a "reverse bias" until the workforce better represents the community.

That's the theory. The practice is, however, different. The topic of this thread is about DEI appointments being more equal than others via their remuneration. It would seem the "reverse bias" is now in "overdrive". I have no problem with centering the pendulum but what we have now is a pendulum that has gone way over to the other side. The US example is of course very topical as the people have recognised this pendulum swing and rejected it. If the Democrats can not move the pendulum back toward the centre they are finished.

[WDSmart]

8 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Apparently it did make others more equal. You seem to be missing what actually happened as per this thread and the report.

 

 

No, I read the report and in my first comment, I said I thought that the inequalities reported were not acceptable to me. I think of DEI as a hiring tool, only. Not a promotion or salary-setting tool. So, if that's what the BBC did, I think disagree with that.

And, DEI does not make anyone equal to anyone else. What it does, or is supposed to do, is to make the workforce more representative of the community as a whole. 

[WDSmart]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

That's the theory. The practice is, however, different. The topic of this thread is about DEI appointments being more equal than others via their remuneration. It would seem the "reverse bias" is now in "overdrive". I have no problem with centering the pendulum but what we have now is a pendulum that has gone way over to the other side. The US example is of course very topical as the people have recognised this pendulum swing and rejected it. If the Democrats can not move the pendulum back toward the centre they are finished.

I agree with you that DEI is meant to "center' the pendulum, not push it to the other side. 

[blaze master]

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I did what I had to to comply with that society.  I've never wanted to be a monk.

 

You are talking about the past. Who cares if you want to be a monk or not. That sounds like a supremacist mindset. 

 

If you became a monk now you would be living as close to socialism as is possible in today's world. You would be practising what you preach.

 

Then I would take you seriously. .But you don't. You whinge on about how you try your best. Your best is grandstanding and virtue signalling. 

 

For you ...society needs to change before you do...to enforce your moral code.

DD

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I agree with you that DEI is meant to "center' the pendulum, not push it to the other side. 

Good. Do you agree that the pendulum has moved way too far to the left? IMO it's been hijacked by a minority of radical woke left ideologues. This led to the downfall of the Democrats in the US. People have woken up and are sick of it and it threatens the moderate left as a whole.